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Busyman
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j2k4
You really can't see the forest for the trees, can you.
I would not have thought you'd buy the cheap cultural elitism Obama is selling, but there you have it.
I'll bet you don't like her accent, either. :whistling
What elitism?
You think Mrs. Palin talking about "small town values" makes her not elite?
To be honest, her accent coupled with her skating around questions or reciting her coached answers makes her sound annoying.
It's a nightmare even imagining her talking to any foreign dignitary that understands English.
Let's not talk too much about McCain, a man that left his ailing wife for a much younger, richer woman while he was still married.
Let me put it to you this way, then:
Your elitism forestalls any idea of voting for anyone who is not Harvard or Yale educated.
You have occasionally complained about Washington insiders, yes?
Do you realize at all that until you break that particular chain, the best possible scenario is more of the same?
You will be missing a golden opportunity, my friend. :whistling
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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j2k4
Your elitism forestalls any idea of voting for anyone who is not Harvard or Yale educated.
My elitism forstalls the idea of voting for anyone who is not educated, period.
This extends to both McCain and Palin, the former because he had the opportunity for the best education possible (as did Bush actually) and squandered it due to a sense of entitlement and sheer laziness, the latter because she suggests that aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue, in fact, excelling beyond the level of the "common man" is suspect and deserving of scorn.
Glorifying the lowest common demoninator seems like a cheap and tawdry goal, easily achieved and worth nothing when attained.
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clocker
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j2k4
Your elitism forestalls any idea of voting for anyone who is not Harvard or Yale educated.
My elitism forstalls the idea of voting for anyone who is not educated, period.
This extends to both McCain and Palin, the former because he had the opportunity for the best education possible (as did Bush actually) and squandered it due to a sense of entitlement and sheer laziness, the latter because she suggests that aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue, in fact, excelling beyond the level of the "common man" is suspect and deserving of scorn.
Glorifying the lowest common demoninator seems like a cheap and tawdry goal, easily achieved and worth nothing when attained.
You don't get an exceptional education at ivy league schools, you get plugged into the network.
That's the problem.
Please explain your "aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue" thingie.
Have I missed something.
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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j2k4
You don't get an exceptional education at ivy league schools, you get plugged into the network.
That's the problem.
Nonsense.
Not everyone- in fact, only a small minority- of Ivy League attendees are "Skull and Bones" types, the majority are simply interested in getting the best education possible.
You really want to compare the quality of education between Wasilla Community College and Yale?
Furthermore, re: your comment about being "plugged into the network"- look at Palin's record and actions beginning as mayor of Wasilla. She shows a clear preference for replacing officials/functionaries based on friendship rather than qualifications.
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Please explain your "aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue" thingie.
Have I missed something.
Yes, apparently you have.
Like every public utterance SP has made in the past few weeks.
The "media elite" have been practising "gotcha journalism" for simply trying to parse the meagre few sentences we've been allowed to hear from the horse's mouth.
The woman is almost incoherent and, were one to base one's opinion solely on the printed record, it could reasonably be concluded she's functionally retarded.
Palin glorifies her lack of knowledge as making her "more like us" rather than a failure of preparation or lack of interest.
It's one thing to focus on the big picture and refuse to be mired by detail, but even that approach requires a basic familiarity with the details involved...analogous to the tenet "You can't successfully break the rules till you know what they are".
Basically, I don't want me running for office, I want someone better.
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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j2k4
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Busyman
What elitism?
You think Mrs. Palin talking about "small town values" makes her not elite?
To be honest, her accent coupled with her skating around questions or reciting her coached answers makes her sound annoying.
It's a nightmare even imagining her talking to any foreign dignitary that understands English.
Let's not talk too much about McCain, a man that left his ailing wife for a much younger, richer woman while he was still married.
Let me put it to you this way, then:
Your elitism forestalls any idea of voting for anyone who is not Harvard or Yale educated.
You have occasionally complained about Washington insiders, yes?
Do you realize at all that until you break
that particular chain, the best
possible scenario is
more of the same?
You will be missing a golden opportunity, my friend. :whistling
Wow, so now a Harvard or Yale graduate is a bad thing?
Tbh, I forgot that Obama went to Harvard (or was it Yale)?
Now you bring it up, conveniently, as a downgrade.
I heard shit about this from you when Bush was running and he went to Yale and Harvard ffs.
You are the ultimate party-pusher. Whatever your party is doing, it's great. Whatever another party is doing, is shit. You are a inconsistent consistent.
You remind of a fella I had minor trouble with that knew just enough legalese to get himself and others in trouble. Underneath it all, he had no substance when dealing with a straight talking judge.
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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j2k4
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Originally Posted by
clocker
My elitism forstalls the idea of voting for anyone who is not educated, period.
This extends to both McCain and Palin, the former because he had the opportunity for the best education possible (as did Bush actually) and squandered it due to a sense of entitlement and sheer laziness, the latter because she suggests that aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue, in fact, excelling beyond the level of the "common man" is suspect and deserving of scorn.
Glorifying the lowest common demoninator seems like a cheap and tawdry goal, easily achieved and worth nothing when attained.
You don't get an exceptional education at ivy league schools, you get plugged into the network.
That's the problem.
Please explain your
"aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue" thingie.
Have I missed something.
Oh so Bush got plugged into the network? No Ivy League schools provide a good education? So it's a network of dumbdumbs?
I have 3 friends that went to Harvard and they are quite smart. If they got plugged into a network that wants smart people, so be it.
Your generalizations make you come of as some backwoods resentful militia man.
Yes everyone that goes to Harvard may not come out the brightest mainly due to the fact that certain folks should have never been admitted. Some get admitted due to who they are.
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Re: A Lady by the name of...
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devilsadvocate
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Re: A Lady by the name of...
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Busyman
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
You don't get an exceptional education at ivy league schools, you get plugged into the network.
That's the problem.
Please explain your "aspiring to mediocrity is a virtue" thingie.
Have I missed something.
Oh so Bush got plugged into the network? No Ivy League schools provide a good education? So it's a network of dumbdumbs?
I have 3 friends that went to Harvard and they are quite smart. If they got plugged into a network that wants smart people, so be it.
Your generalizations make you come of as some backwoods resentful militia man.
Yes everyone that goes to Harvard may not come out the brightest mainly due to the fact that certain folks should have never been admitted. Some get admitted due to who they are.
Yes, Bush got plugged in.
Just like your boys Kerry and Gore.
So, you are of the opinion an excellent education cannot be had outside the ivys?
BTW-
Is this-
"Your generalizations make you come of as some backwoods resentful militia man".
-not a generalization?
You are practicing an elitism you can't afford, sir.
Perhaps you could grovel before one of your three (count 'em, three) Harvard buddies to parse your posting for you.
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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j2k4
So, you are of the opinion an excellent education cannot be had outside the ivys?
Why must this be either/or?
A good education is available any number of places, including the Ivy League and the public library.