why not switch to usenet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/usenet

"Usenet is distributed among a large, constantly changing conglomeration of servers which store and forward messages to one another. These servers are loosely connected in a variable mesh (Think of it as a spider web. There are multiple ways to get to any point in the web, so if any of those ways is blocked for any reason, there is always another way to get there, allowing the information to reach its destination safely. In this manner, one can easily see that it would be hard indeed to prevent the spread of information across Usenet.) Individual users may read messages from and post messages to a local server operated by their ISP, university or employer. The servers then exchange the messages between one another, making the messages available to readers beyond the original server.

Removal of copyrighted content from the entire usenet network is a nearly impossible task, due to the rapid propagation between servers and the retention done by each server. Petitioning a usenet provider for removal only removes it from that one server's retention cache, but not any others. It is possible for a special post cancellation message to be distributed to remove it from all servers, but many providers ignore cancel messages by standard policy, because they can be easily falsified and submitted by anyone. For a takedown petition to be most effective across the whole network, it would have to be issued to the origin server to which the content has been posted, but has not yet been propagated to other servers. Removal of the content at this early stage would prevent further propagation, but with modern high speed links, content can be propagated as fast as it arrives, allowing no time for content review and takedown issuance by copyright holders.

Establishing the identity of the person posting illegal content is equally difficult due to the trust-based design of the network. Like SMTP email, servers generally assume the header and origin information in a post is true and accurate. However, as in SMTP email, Usenet post headers are easily falsified so as to obscure the true identity and location of the message source. In this manner, Usenet is significantly different from modern P2P services; most P2P users distributing content are typically immediately identifiable to all other users by their network address, but the origin information for a usenet posting can be completely obscured and unobtainable once it has propagated past the origin server.

Also unlike modern P2P services, the identity of the downloaders is hidden from view. On P2P services a downloader is identifiable to all others by their network address. On Usenet, the downloader connects directly to a server, and only the server knows the address of who is connecting to it."

I should point out that the Simpons torrent hasn't been released yet, and your watching it via Usenet.

The Simpsons S20E18 PROPER HDTV XviD 0TV - has been posted to Usenet, expect one for the x264 to follow.

LOL

You are on just crappy torrent sites.

Any of the high up torrent sites will get files literally seconds after pre.

The Simpsons S20E18 PROPER HDTV XviD 0TV
Uploaded 20s after pre.


Underworld Rise of the Lycans DVDR-MPTDVD
Uploaded 4m20s after pre.


To settle this, usenet will never get scene content faster then high up private torrent sites as usenet uses private torrent sites to get their files.

LOL

The filesharing Hierarchy

Scene Group
Topsites
Private Torrent Sites
Newsgroups/usenet
Public Torrent sites
rapid share

The Simpsons S20E18 720p HDTV X264 DIMENSION

Added to Usenet - 01:28:31 AM GMT
Added to Torrential Tracker (private) - 03:10:22 AM GMT
Added to NZBMatrix - 05:02:53 AM GMT
Added to EZTV Tracker (public) - Arrival Pending

The Simpsons S20E18 720p HDTV X264-DIMENSION
2009-04-27 01:03:02 GMT

TorrentLeech

I dont know wtf torrential tracker is

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Originally Posted by fatcat69

To settle this, usenet will never get scene content faster then high up private torrent sites as usenet uses private torrent sites to get their files.

LOL

The filesharing Hierarchy

Scene Group
Topsites
Private Torrent Sites
Newsgroups/usenet
Public Torrent sites
rapid share

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Surely you don't expect anyone with an ounce of sense to believe that do you?

@Snarkyone - Your problem has been moved here.

Well gee Skizo, I don't know why you moved my post? I didn't start the thread, my participation in this was to go ahead and give the usenet a shot which was the point of that thread it was in. I was trying to show the difference between the two forms and some of the issues that I needed to hassle with that this thread started in regards to Usenet vs BT. I think it really should have been left here or just deleted my post since it was not intended to be a thread upon itself.

That said, whats done is done, and I am not going to cry about it. I just wanted to make it clear that it was not my thread and not so much a problem as an experiment to try and bring some facts to the table so that all can be informed with facts and experience not just some yahoo running his mouth. I don't care if it stays where you put it or if it is returned to here, thats up to you, at least now you are informed about the post and it's purpose, I was not looking for help with a problem, I was sharing the process I was going through over Usenet. Peace!

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

The Simpsons S20E18 720p HDTV X264 DIMENSION

Added to Usenet - 01:28:31 AM GMT
Added to Torrential Tracker (private) - 03:10:22 AM GMT
Added to NZBMatrix - 05:02:53 AM GMT
Added to EZTV Tracker (public) - Arrival Pending

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Hey, nice trackers :mellow:

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

The Simpsons S20E18 720p HDTV X264 DIMENSION

Added to Usenet - 01:28:31 AM GMT
Added to Torrential Tracker (private) - 03:10:22 AM GMT
Added to NZBMatrix - 05:02:53 AM GMT
Added to EZTV Tracker (public) - Arrival Pending

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You are trying to point out that Usenet has faster pre than private trackers? I mean, cmon, dont be silly. Not that i do give a shit about pretimes, but you are completly wrong on this one.

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

The Simpsons S20E18 720p HDTV X264 DIMENSION

Added to Usenet - 01:28:31 AM GMT
Added to Torrential Tracker (private) - 03:10:22 AM GMT

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