Obama Administration to File Suit Over Arizona Immigration Law

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Originally Posted by 999969999

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Originally Posted by l33tpirata13

Ok so you wanna "feel secure" by making me carry papers and have to worry about getting pulled over by the wrong skinhead whiteboy cop?
or maybe by outlawing ethnic studies? or wait, maybe stripping the rights of the naturally born?
ive said it before and ill say it again, Whats happening in Arizona are the DEATH THROWS of a DYiNG race!!!!!
thanks, bigoted white folk, for showing us how deadly afraid you are of being the minority, idiots.

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You know, we are still in the majority in the U.S., and we will continue to be in the majority for quite awhile to come, and with the new baby boom I see happening in the white Mormon communities and other white communities, I think it is quite possible that we will be the majority population in the U.S. indefinitely. This is not like South Africa, where whites were always in the minority.

If we acted like you are acting right now, it would be quite horrible for you. If people like you continue to say these things, and act this way, I dare say that you may wake up the sleeping giant, the white majority, and if you think it's bad now, wait till you see what comes next.

If it is okay to have racist organizations like La Raza, Chicanos Por La Causa, NAACP, etc., then why shouldn't whites start acting the same way and start looking out for their own race and stop bending over backwards to help the other races? What do you think would happen then?

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You really must be dreaming. Whites on route to regain majority status? Its impossible by any standard. Math is on our side. Its a widely recognized FACT. Sorry if it doesnt fit your "white" dream.

My mother, who works as a case worker for the Maricopa County Courthouse, recently threw a disgusting fact at me. Yes, this extremely racist law, backed only by the fearing and unknowing, has driven illegals elsewhere. THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY WENT BACK TO MEXICO. (Sorry, but Whitey's desired effect is null if they go into another STATE!!!!!) But thats all besides my point. She holds a domestic violence class every Thursday, which is usually full. She said that she usually expected at least 30 women, who have been beat and worse. Now, she sees only a handful. Maybe 6 or 8. IS THIS WHAT YOU CALL A WIN? DRIVING AWAY women who have been beat, threatened, maimed, disfigured, and in some cases severly tortured? Well, go ahead and give yourself a pat on that hump you call a back.

Oh and i will say it again, since its not racism, its just a fact. What whites are doing in AZ and in other WHITE rural areas, is done out of pure FEAR. They recognize that White Americana is OVER!!!!! And it scares em all the way to the loony bin. They arent that stupid though, they know where the numbers are and where they are going, that's why they are trying to make us the scapegoat. DEATH THROWS OF A DYING RACE......DEATH THROWS OF A DYING RACE.

PS White Mormons? Really? I know they have money, but they'll never have our breeding power.

And I almost forgot, I used to work for a place named "Spanish Coalition for Jobs". Do you think we just served "Spanish" people? Stop listening to Glenn Beck he's bad for your brain.

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Originally Posted by 999969999

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Originally Posted by clocker

Hey 9, have you ever wondered why it is that "immigration reform" such as Arizona's new law mimics the tragically failed "War on Drugs" in that it targets the lowest level of the problem- users and the immigrants themselves- and completely ignores the people who profit most?
In this instance, why is that the agricultural corporations/meatpackers, et cetera, who most benefit from the ready supply of cheap unorganized labor aren't getting raided and fined out the wazoo for hiring undocumented workers?

Next time you're wandering around your newly pleasant Home Depot, you might spare a moment and think about that.

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Oh Clocky, what do you think Sheriff Joe has been up to lately in Maricopa County? He raids the businesses that hire illegals. But the feds don't like that and are now investigating him and trying to stop him from doing this.

If the feds would do their job by stopping anyone from crossing the border illegally, there wouldn't be nearly as many illegals to hire, and maybe employers would have to start hiring American teenagers again. Just a thought.

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You rarely if ever go to Maricopa county. i can tell.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by bigboab

How do illegal immigrants manage to clog up hospitals and schools without having the necessary papers?

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In the usual way.

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Back it up with Words. Stop being so vague, in the usual way.

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Originally Posted by l33tpirata13

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Originally Posted by j2k4

In the usual way.

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Back it up with Words. Stop being so vague, in the usual way.

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Oh, ffs.

If I had another account, I could post for you (and do it better) - you could do something where quality rhetoric doesn't matter.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by l33tpirata13

Back it up with Words. Stop being so vague, in the usual way.

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Oh, ffs.

If I had another account, I could post for you (and do it better) - you could do something where quality rhetoric doesn't matter.

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So you go personal, because you can't think of a logical response? Or because youre an Elitist?

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Originally Posted by 999969999

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Originally Posted by bigboab

What way would that be? Do you not require to be registered at school? Assuming they are all poor, because of unscrupulous employers, do they not require papers in order to receive hospital treament?

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Oh, wouldn't that be nice?

No, the schools let all children, illegals as well as citizens, attend. They don't care. The more children attending their schools, the more money they get.

Hospital emergency rooms can't turn anyone away, so illegals use them as their primary care physicians, and not just for emergencies. Whenever they get the sniffles, they run to the emergency rooms.

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Hospitals care for the sick, BECAUSE IT IS COMPLETELY INHUMAN, COLD, SELFISH, AND WRONG TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY. The alternative is children, elderly, sick, and injured laying around and dying like stray dogs. Oh wait, organizations in America also help stray, injured, sick animals...

Schools help/enroll children so that they have a chance at a better, productive life.

You, and your limited, self-centered "views", truly make me sick. Are you truly that empty-hearted and vacuous? I honestly hope you are a troll.

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Originally Posted by l33tpirata13

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Originally Posted by 999969999

You know, we are still in the majority in the U.S., and we will continue to be in the majority for quite awhile to come, and with the new baby boom I see happening in the white Mormon communities and other white communities, I think it is quite possible that we will be the majority population in the U.S. indefinitely. This is not like South Africa, where whites were always in the minority.

If we acted like you are acting right now, it would be quite horrible for you. If people like you continue to say these things, and act this way, I dare say that you may wake up the sleeping giant, the white majority, and if you think it's bad now, wait till you see what comes next.

If it is okay to have racist organizations like La Raza, Chicanos Por La Causa, NAACP, etc., then why shouldn't whites start acting the same way and start looking out for their own race and stop bending over backwards to help the other races? What do you think would happen then?

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You really must be dreaming. Whites on route to regain majority status? Its impossible by any standard. Math is on our side. Its a widely recognized FACT. Sorry if it doesnt fit your "white" dream.

My mother, who works as a case worker for the Maricopa County Courthouse, recently threw a disgusting fact at me. Yes, this extremely racist law, backed only by the fearing and unknowing, has driven illegals elsewhere. THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY WENT BACK TO MEXICO. (Sorry, but Whitey's desired effect is null if they go into another STATE!!!!!) But thats all besides my point. She holds a domestic violence class every Thursday, which is usually full. She said that she usually expected at least 30 women, who have been beat and worse. Now, she sees only a handful. Maybe 6 or 8. IS THIS WHAT YOU CALL A WIN? DRIVING AWAY women who have been beat, threatened, maimed, disfigured, and in some cases severly tortured? Well, go ahead and give yourself a pat on that hump you call a back.

Oh and i will say it again, since its not racism, its just a fact. What whites are doing in AZ and in other WHITE rural areas, is done out of pure FEAR. They recognize that White Americana is OVER!!!!! And it scares em all the way to the loony bin. They arent that stupid though, they know where the numbers are and where they are going, that's why they are trying to make us the scapegoat. DEATH THROWS OF A DYING RACE......DEATH THROWS OF A DYING RACE.

PS White Mormons? Really? I know they have money, but they'll never have our breeding power.

And I almost forgot, I used to work for a place named "Spanish Coalition for Jobs". Do you think we just served "Spanish" people? Stop listening to Glenn Beck he's bad for your brain.

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I would say that's your RACIST dream, that whites will no longer be the majority population. You obviously have not been to very many Mormon areas. I have 5 brothers and 4 sisters. We control large portions of the western states, and we will continue to control them for many years into the future.

And as the economy of the U.S. goes further downhill, the rest of the white population will start to have bigger and bigger families. We're already here in majority status and in positions of power and control. All we have to do is start having bigger families, and we will be able to continue our control of the United States indefinitely.

It's time that the rest of the whites wake up and realize that we are in a struggle for the continued control of the United States. The first thing we need to do is stop hiring anyone to do things we should be doing ourselves-- lawn care, house cleaning, home repair, construction projects, car repair, etc. That will eliminate a huge amount of jobs for illegals. And then, whenever we are in a position of hiring authority, hire our own kind (discretely, of course), and that would knock the illegal aliens out of most jobs. There are other things we could and should do, but I probably shouldn't get into them on this public forum.

We are still in power and should take advantage of that fact while we still can.

Liberals hate Glenn Beck (a white Mormon, by the way) because he is a serious threat to their agendas. I will continue to listen to and watch Glenn Beck. He is great.

So, it's fair to say that in your view the American dream is exclusively white?

BTW, Glen Beck is no threat to my "agenda".
Mainly because he's a moron and in my version of the future everyone would be smart enough to ignore him.

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Originally Posted by l33tpirata13

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Originally Posted by 999969999

Oh Clocky, what do you think Sheriff Joe has been up to lately in Maricopa County? He raids the businesses that hire illegals. But the feds don't like that and are now investigating him and trying to stop him from doing this.

If the feds would do their job by stopping anyone from crossing the border illegally, there wouldn't be nearly as many illegals to hire, and maybe employers would have to start hiring American teenagers again. Just a thought.

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You rarely if ever go to Maricopa county. i can tell.

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Yes, Scottsdale, Paradise Valley, Arcadia, Mesa, Gilbert, and Queen Creek. Not all of Maricopa County has been taken over by illegals yet.

One point I would like to mention is that all the way from northern Mexico to southern Chile, where Hispanics are the majority of the population, you can't point to any one of them that has a better economy or better standard of living than the United States. I wouldn't want to live in any of them. In fact, people are fleeing from those countries and desperately trying to come to the United States. Why is that? Why are your people so desperate to come here? Why is your homeland so horrible? What made your home country such a horrible place to live?

Looking at the barrios of Phoenix, I can only assume that your people will make the United States every bit as bad as the countries you came from.

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Originally Posted by clocker

So, it's fair to say that in your view the American dream is exclusively white?

BTW, Glen Beck is no threat to my "agenda".
Mainly because he's a moron and in my version of the future everyone would be smart enough to ignore him.

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Not exclusively white, but white majority, the way it currently is and has been for centuries.

If that's a racist idea, then Mexico's law is also racist...


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"Mexico's immigration laws are codified in what's called Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population. You can read the Spanish-language version HERE, or a Google English version HERE.

Some examples, as presented by Redstate. Referenced articles are from Ley General de Población (English version):

-- Foreigners are admitted into Mexico ”according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)

-- Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)

-- Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)

-- The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)

The chorus of critics of Arizona's new law targeting suspected illegal immigrants has been joined by an unlikely voice. It belongs to Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who has blasted the Arizona law as opening the door "to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement."

Just one problem with Calderon's holier-than-thou posturing. His own country's Reglamento de la Ley General de Poblacion —General Law on Population, which was enacted in April 2000—is quite similar to the Arizona law, with one important difference. It is far stricter and the penalties for violating it far more draconian.

Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The penalty includes up to two years in prison. That jail time is upped to 10 years for repeat offenders. Visa violators can be sentenced to prison terms of 6 years, and any Mexican who aids and abets an illegal immigrant is himself considered a criminal.

And that's just for openers. The law also gives Mexican officials the authority and discretion to deport foreigners who:

are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests";
violate Mexican law;
are not "physically or mentally healthy";
lack the "necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents.
The root of Mexico's immigration woes, ironically, is its own southern border, with Guatemala. Families from that even poorer country to Mexico's south illegally enter Mexico to do jobs vacated by Mexicans who themselves have made an illegal crossing of their northern border. The Guatemalans are thus coming to Mexico to "do jobs that will no one else will do." There seems to be a delicious irony in all of this that makes Calderon's righteous indignation that much more pernicious and hypocritical."