Are you Glad Bush won?

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Originally Posted by vidcc

You don't buy it...so what...it's still just opinion, not proof. I didn't ask you to prove it, you believe what you believe... i disagree with what you believe. I can't prove people are born gay, you can't disprove they are.
Every theory anyone comes up with for either case has a counter theory...so the fact is it can't be proven one way or the other.

But let's say scientists do discover a "gay gene"...you suggest it could then be fixed, that would suggest that if one want's to use ones moral beliefs to fix it either...nature (if you believe god doesn't exist) or gods creation (if you belive god does exist)must be fixed

I don't see gay people as "immoral". i don't see them as "sick". I see them as being different.

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Bravo... for those who think it's a choice... choose to get a woody when you look at, maybe, Tom Cruise.

I don't see what all the big deal is about either.

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Originally Posted by scroff

Bravo... for those who think it's a choice... choose to get a woody when you look at, maybe, Tom Cruise.

I don't see what all the big deal is about either.

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Nice chime in but no one's saying that...at least not here. :dry:

Rofl.

Most of the world wants Bush out however amercians think he's the best and he's doing a good job in Iraq and such. Funny how the Iraqies don'....

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Originally Posted by vidcc

You don't buy it...so what...it's still just opinion, not proof. I didn't ask you to prove it, you believe what you believe... i disagree with what you believe. I can't prove people are born gay, you can't disprove they are.
Every theory anyone comes up with for either case has a counter theory...so the fact is it can't be proven one way or the other.

But let's say scientists do discover a "gay gene"...you suggest it could then be fixed, that would suggest that if one want's to use ones moral beliefs to fix it either...nature (if you believe god doesn't exist) or gods creation (if you belive god does exist)must be fixed

I don't see gay people as "immoral". i don't see them as "sick". I see them as being different.

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I bet if there was a killer gene or a Turret's gene it wouldn't be bad to "fix it".

Btw what is behind your opinion that homosexuality is birthed?

Keep in mind I don't believe gays are out and out hurting folks and don't believe in talking down to them or workplace discrimination.
I don't agree with the lifestyle but I don't have to live it. I leave that for their God to sort out.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I bet if there was a killer gene or a Turret's gene it wouldn't be bad to "fix it".

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Why not fix it if we have the capability? I have no problem with that. The only way a gay gene could be connected in this theory would be if your morals considered homosexuality to be wrong. Well i don't, i am repelled at the thought but i don't think there is anything wrong with it for those that are gay. Killers harm others...homosexuals just give you the creeps.

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Btw what is behind your opinion that homosexuality is birthed?

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i believe if you or i can't be changed gay why would anyone else?
why would someone choose to be gay when they have to go through all this biggoted crap?

I can't be bothered to go into every little arguement...those 2 will do:)

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Originally Posted by vidcc

Why not fix it if we have the capability? I have no problem with that. The only way a gay gene could be connected in this theory would be if your morals considered homosexuality to be wrong. Well i don't, i am repelled at the thought but i don't think there is anything wrong with it for those that are gay. Killers harm others...homosexuals just give you the creeps.


i believe if you or i can't be changed gay why would anyone else?
why would someone choose to be gay when they have to go through all this biggoted crap?

I can't be bothered to go into every little arguement...those 2 will do:)

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Turret's gives the creeps too.

Anyway, as I said before being gay is as much choice as you choosing what woman that you find attractive.

Folks that are straight have switched sides before. It amazes that in these instances everyone says, "Well they were gay all along".....as if this gay gene were always trump. :dry:
In other cases, folks are living a lie but that's nothing new. Sociopaths do it all the time (bad example I know). The point is many folks do as society does to not stand out.

You say you or I can't be changed gay...well others have been.

You like what you like.

Busy
I only gave you a couple of reasons because you asked me to. If you have a different theory...as i said it's opinion, not proof.

you can repeat your opinion again if you wish but as i said i believe what i believe

I'd think its more a pyschological thing. Not that its defect, but perhaps there is something that differs in a certain section of the brain that picks who we find attractive and this differs from person to person. I suppose this could be linked to whether the same thing is present in our parents and also may change depending on what is experince early in life.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Nice chime in but no one's saying that...at least not here. :dry:

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Sorry...

This must have confused me

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I just use logic. It's choice. Environment is not a dictator but an influence.

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Didn't realize this was a private conversation...
I'll shut up now...