What an odd answer. So merely because players practice free-throws, breaking the rules on purpose isn't cheating. You do know that players practice penalty shots in all sports, don't you.
Excelled yourself there, mate.
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What an odd answer. So merely because players practice free-throws, breaking the rules on purpose isn't cheating. You do know that players practice penalty shots in all sports, don't you.
Excelled yourself there, mate.
In basketball, an intentional foul is not cheating. PERIOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
The term intentional foul is sometimes a misnomer. I can intend to block a shot, miss the ball, and smack the opposing players forearm.
Who knows what the player intended?
Then that isn't an intentional foul. If you make an honest attmept for the ball within the rules and you fail due to lack of skill or due to the opponant's skill and in doing so break the rules, then it's unintentional and not cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busy
If you deliberately trip a player up as he's about to score. You cheated.
Silly indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
I deal with how the sport is played and it's strategies.
You say I don't understand the concept of rules or what a contact sport is yet..
There is contact in the sport of basketball and it's not small contact. It is sometimes harsh.
Fouls are part of the game and involved in it's strategy.
Due to how the game is played, one strategy is to go to basket strong, usually with a guarantee of getting a foul, a basket, or both.
Dwyane Wade went to the foul line numerous times in the last Wizards game by doing just that. In basketball an offensive player actually play for the contact in many cases in order to get a foul call in his favor.
Ahhhh but that's different.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
The player is ejected.
The other team gets fouls shots.
The other team gets possession of the ball.
I remember J R Reid hitting A C Green of the Lakers in mouth, knocking out 2 teeth. :sick:
Soccer has different penalties for different "fouls" as well.
The confusion here is that in basketball it is not a free-for-all.
There are loose ball, flagrant, offensive, blocking, technical, and away from the ball, and clear path to the basket fouls.
Many of them have different penalties.
You know, There are intentional fouls at the end of a lot of close games. The team ahead will usually try to get the ball to their best free - throw shooter, while the defensive team hopes like hell they miss the free throws.... whats cheating got to do with that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
RP they are looking at the game "on paper".Quote:
Originally Posted by RPerry
You see strategy is not explained on the website and all is seen is..
-It says contact is not allowed therefore it is a non-contact sport.
-A foul by the very definition is against the rules and is therefore frowned upon in all cases.
It's a little weird that as intelligent as some people are that they can't grasp the concepts in basketball yet it's played around the world. :huh:
Busy,
This is the same in every sport. Different rule violations carry different penalties. Basketball isn't unique in this by any means, of course you already know this.
My example of tripping someone up was the first thing that come to mind. Provided the intention is there in the mind of a player to break the rules, then he is cheating.
The only way that I can distinguish Basketball from other sports in this respect is the amount of intentional rule breaking that occurs. It seems to me that because this practice is so widespread it has become accepted among the Basketball players and fans alike. Just because a rule is broken multiple times, over and over in every game and an advantage can be gained by commiting this foul, does not mean it's not cheating any more.
This dearth of concern among your peers merely means that cheating has been incorporated into the strategy of games and accepted as a valid tactic. I think that this is to the detriment of the sport and indicative of the win-at-all-costs mentality that was mentioned earlier.
Far from this ethos being particular to Basketball, it's also manifested itself in Soccer and other sports - and has probably always been evident. Players of my favourite team sometimes dive to gain an unfair advantage. I won't dress it up and call it gamesmanship or try to waffle my way thro' an explanation of how it's not cheating simply because the practice is fairly widespread now.
He cheated, I condemn that and I hope the manager takes steps to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Grasping the concept of Basketball is easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Cheating isn't frowned upon nor is it sufficiantly punishable in certain areas such that it becomes an advantageous proposition. Therefore it's widespread.
They get the ball to their best free-shooter because they know that the defensive team are likely to try to cheat by making intentional fouls on the player with the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by RPerry
If you deliberately break the rules, that's cheating.