Re: The best British county
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Originally Posted by meirionwyllt
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Originally Posted by manker
Here is something else to amaze you; Welsh people take words from other languages and make them easier to pronounce too! Can you imagine my surprise when I found this out.
The word 'ambulance' in Welsh is 'ambiwlans' - now I'm not sure if an English person or a Welsh person first bastardised the term from the Latin 'ambulare', but it's clear that they both did so to make the word fit in better with the phonetics of the native tongue.
You want to know something else that's absolutely amazing? Every language bastardises terms from other languages and uses them on a regular basis!
:o :o :o :o :o :o
We are talking about different things here...
I have no qualms about a language 'borrowing' a word from another language and putting a more phonetically agreeable version in its own dictionary to fill in any logic gaps therein. As you say, that happens in all languages, and has happened in every language ever. For example, if English people wanted to use the phrase Pen y Cwm in theit dictionary, and spell it Pennycome, then fine, go ahead, because I know that the Oxford dictionary (which happens to be a very good one) would give an accurate account of the word's origin.
My 'beef' is with English people crossing the border and expecting here to be an extension of England. Take for example place names. I can carry on calling England 'Lloegr', or calling Scotland 'Yr Alban', but I would never dream of forcing those names on the places. It happens so much in Welsh towns (not so much in villages simply because they are too small), and half the time the English versions of the names don't even make sense, and bear no relevance to the locality or its surroundings. And whether or not you think I'm being over the top, that is cultural genocide by the linguistically philistine English towards Welsh people.
I know that some may think that I'm generalising and brandishing a lot of people, but when you've seen evidence of immense disrespect for our language/culture every day of your life, you begin to lose faith and start thinking that ALL the English have the same contempt for our identity. I try not to have this opinion all the time, but sometimes it's impossible not to. How many English people have heard of the Tryweryn outrage? Or even Clywedog? Not many I bet. The English media keep things like that away from the people.
it's an in joke that only the ubercool get
Re: The best British county
Re: The best British county
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Re: The best British county
I speak Welsh! I am in fact, from Anglesey, and born and bred here. I grew up speaking Welsh, as do most of my friends, and my children speak Welsh.
I don't give a stuff whether I'm descended from Celts or otherwise. :w00t:
I don't feel devolution is neccessarily the best way forward; especially as it stands now, when we still don't honestly have much say in Welsh affairs even though we do have a hugely expensive and rather verbose Assembly.
We don't bother burning Union Jacks; it's far more fun to sell hapless tourists horribly overpriced crap that reads 'A Gift From Wales' and stamped 'Made in Taiwan' on the back. :naughty:
This kind of sums Wales up really; our word(s) for generator is 'peiriant cynhyrchu trydan'. It means... machine for making electricity. :D
I love my country, I love being Welsh, and I'm proud of it. But I'd hate to be so proud I lost my sense of humour.
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sup incurablechevy :dabs:
Re: The best British county
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Originally Posted by meirionwyllt
And whether or not you think I'm being over the top, that is cultural genocide by the linguistically philistine English towards Welsh people.
That's a bit harsh.
Re: The best British county
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Originally Posted by IncurableChevy
I speak Welsh! I am in fact, from Anglesey, and born and bred here. I grew up speaking Welsh, as do most of my friends, and my children speak Welsh.
I don't give a stuff whether I'm descended from Celts or otherwise. :w00t:
I don't feel devolution is neccessarily the best way forward; especially as it stands now, when we still don't honestly have much say in Welsh affairs even though we do have a hugely expensive and rather verbose Assembly.
We don't bother burning Union Jacks; it's far more fun to sell hapless tourists horribly overpriced crap that reads 'A Gift From Wales' and stamped 'Made in Taiwan' on the back. :naughty:
This kind of sums Wales up really; our word(s) for generator is 'peiriant cynhyrchu trydan'. It means... machine for making electricity. :D
I love my country, I love being Welsh, and I'm proud of it. But I'd hate to be so proud I lost my sense of humour.
Welcome :D
I agree with most of that. You seem much better than that other chap with the persecution complex.
In any case, fantastic to see a few more people from god's own country here at FST :01:
Re: The best British county
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Originally Posted by manker
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Originally Posted by IncurableChevy
I speak Welsh! I am in fact, from Anglesey, and born and bred here. I grew up speaking Welsh, as do most of my friends, and my children speak Welsh.
I don't give a stuff whether I'm descended from Celts or otherwise. :w00t:
I don't feel devolution is neccessarily the best way forward; especially as it stands now, when we still don't honestly have much say in Welsh affairs even though we do have a hugely expensive and rather verbose Assembly.
We don't bother burning Union Jacks; it's far more fun to sell hapless tourists horribly overpriced crap that reads 'A Gift From Wales' and stamped 'Made in Taiwan' on the back. :naughty:
This kind of sums Wales up really; our word(s) for generator is 'peiriant cynhyrchu trydan'. It means... machine for making electricity. :D
I love my country, I love being Welsh, and I'm proud of it. But I'd hate to be so proud I lost my sense of humour.
Welcome :D
I agree with most of that. You seem much better than that other chap with the persecution complex.
In any case, fantastic to see a few more people from god's own country here at FST :01:
jerusalem?rolf
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Originally Posted by Mr. Mulder
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Originally Posted by manker
Welcome :D
I agree with most of that. You seem much better than that other chap with the persecution complex.
In any case, fantastic to see a few more people from god's own country here at FST :01:
jerusalem?rolf
Walk upon England's peasant lands. :blink:
Re: The best British county
lol, scotland's not even a country irl
