death sentence in the uk?

an executioner would spend all their time building up to killing someone strapped down in a chair. a normal human can't kill a fellow human like that. i'd be surprised if an animal would do it, with the exception of looking for food.

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Originally Posted by lyric101

Am I the only one who sees talk of the death sentance foe would be SUICIDE bombers ironic? Surely death is what they wanted? Why give it to them? Why reduce ourselves to their level? The UK will not bring back the death sentance, ever, regardless of the crimes perpetrated upon her

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Who said they have to be suicide bombers?

But of those that are they are not just committing suicide. They wish to kill others, and if they fail in that well then hard cheese they can die a failure. I made it quite clear that I don't view it as a deterrent.

I realise that in reality the UK will not return capital punishment but that doesn't prohibit debate about it.

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Originally Posted by 99%

according to one of the religions - everyone is guilty until proven innocent and only god can judge you, and he will on a certain date - all peoples (heaven / hell-you decide)
According to another religion there is a list of something like 10034 (not sure) people who will go to heaven (innocent)
According to another one your next life will get worse if you have been naughty or better if you have worked out the code.

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As there is no god all of this is Irrelavant to me

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Originally Posted by 99%

No religion condones the the taking of an innocent life
- but whom is truelly innocent in the eye of allseer

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I agree but I'm pretty sure in there is something about taking a guilty life.

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Originally Posted by 99%

Death is too easy - lifelong punishment is a better form of "payback".

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Well if death is "too easy" what is the ethical problem with it? Somehow I thought the argument was that death was "cruel"

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Originally Posted by GepperRankins

if you can plan then kill a defensless person on a schedule, there's something wrong with you.

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Whereas someone that killed in the heat of the moment at least understands that nothing he/she can say justifies the act of killing another Human Being.

I'm not a Christian, however i'm pretty sure that one of the big 10 that they continually ignore, is: "Thou Shalt Not Kill"..

Always seemed to me a little hypocritical in that the people that are most outspoken about keeping the Death Penalty in the USA, are those that describe themselves as devout Christians... (and no, i aint talking about you vdcc :P )

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Originally Posted by vidcc

I see it this way:

These people obviously see nothing ethically wrong with killing innocent people themselves so logically they see no ethical reason to not have the death penalty....... after all, to them killing is ok.

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So you think it's OK to emulate the ethics of murderers.

We, the nay sayers, take the opposite view. i.e. that we should not lower ourselves to their level.

Nay sayest I :unsure:



... and now to trot off to the pub :)

Can I assume that everyone against the death penalty thinks that those responsible for the Holocaust and other mass war crimes, should only have been given life sentences?

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Originally Posted by bigboab

Can I assume that everyone against the death penalty thinks that those responsible for the Holocaust and other mass war crimes, should only have been given life sentences?

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Yes

yeah.




surely, someone who doesn't believe in god should be more prolife because they know a person only has one

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Originally Posted by bigboab

Can I assume that everyone against the death penalty thinks that those responsible for the Holocaust and other mass war crimes, should only have been given life sentences?

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I can only speak for myself, but yes.

Life meaning life obviously. With my other conditions on how they should be treated.