boycotts of Danish goods in middle East!

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Originally Posted by JPaul

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Originally Posted by vidcc

You are talking about extremists, which are NOT the majority of religious people no matter how it is framed.

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Indeed, Christian fundamentalists are sometimes really harsh with the words they use.

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It's not uncommon in our news to hear of people being attacked and sometimes murdered because their lifestyles are "unchristian"

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Originally Posted by vidcc

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Did you read the quote?

It came from the lips of Omar Ahmad, THE CHAIRMAN OF C.A.I.R., WHICH IS THE LARGEST REPRESENTATIVE ORGANIZATION OF ISLAM IN NORTH AMERICA. IT CAN SAFELY BE SAID HE SPEAKS FOR "OFFICIAL" ISLAM ON THIS CONTINENT.

This is much more than can be said about Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, or even Jesse Jackson, vid.

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Yes I did read the quote, and I am sure it would take me very little time to come up with many almost exact quotes from American christian "leaders". The fact that you feel islam and christianity are organised differently and that the likes of falwell don't speak for you (yet obviously this guy speaks for all muslims) is not material to the case.
What could be more American than the president? yet I doubt you felt Clinton spoke for your America most of the time.
Even without the extremist like falwell the sole intent of a missionary to convert others is in itself an attempt at sole domination.

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Hmmm I address that before. Our nation has division amongst it which is visible. It is visible by just turning on the news. It visible on this very forum.

Where is their visible division?

If one were to compare beehives, fundamentalist Islam has killer bees.

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Originally Posted by vidcc

It's not uncommon in our news to hear of people being attacked and sometimes murdered because their lifestyles are "unchristian"

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Yes it is.

This was an article written by Bill Laye in the Calgary Sun the other day, on a different sort of protest:

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Calling recent violent protests over derogatory cartoons self-destructive, a local Islamic leader is calling on Calgary Muslims to use the pen, not the sword.

And, Imam Syed Soharwardy, president of the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada, says he's thankful the kinds of cruel caricatures of his faith's Prophet Muhammad -- which have now run in several European papers -- would likely never be printed in this country.

"I am really thankful the laws in Canada are so clear about these anti-racism and anti-violence issues ... this is why Canada is the model for other countries," Soharwardy said yesterday.

The cartoons, which were first printed in Denmark last September, include an image of Muhammad wearing a turban shaped like a bomb with a lit fuse.

These pictures are not only offensive to Muslims, they violate an Islamic anti-idolatry law banning images of any prophet, Soharwardy said.

In his sermon during regular prayers yesterday in Calgary, the cleric urged local believers to flood Danish authorities with calls and e-mails demanding a retraction and an apology.

"We will be peaceful, but we will be noticed," Soharwardy said, adding the violent protests seen elsewhere will only serve to reinforce negative images of Islam.

"We are asking all Muslims to slow down ... this sort of thing will only hurt Muslims."

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Edit: There a few points through this thread I'd respond to, but again, my wacky timing would disrupt the flow of the thread. ;) Ah well, maybe next time.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4684652.stm

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"They want to test our feelings," protester Mawli Abdul Qahar Abu Israra told the BBC.

"They want to know whether Muslims are extremists or not. Death to them and to their newspapers," he said.

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This actually made me :glag: irl

Draw your own conclusions... ;)

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Originally Posted by MagicNakor

In his sermon during regular prayers yesterday in Calgary, the cleric urged local believers to flood Danish authorities with calls and e-mails demanding a retraction and an apology.

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I have no problem with calls and e-mails but this guy STILL doesn't get it.

I sounds like Denmark has free press.....however....

The cleric could press on and possibly push for change in Denmark's laws that would bar this from happening again. In that case, he does get it.

I wonder what would have happened if the drawing with the bomb turban was NOT Muhammed and was captioned as such.

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Originally Posted by vidcc

Yes I did read the quote, and I am sure it would take me very little time to come up with many almost exact quotes from American christian "leaders". The fact that you feel islam and christianity are organised differently and that the likes of falwell don't speak for you (yet obviously this guy speaks for all muslims) is not material to the case.
What could be more American than the president? yet I doubt you felt Clinton spoke for your America most of the time.
Even without the extremist like falwell the sole intent of a missionary to convert others is in itself an attempt at sole domination.

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Hmmm I address that before. Our nation has division amongst it which is visible. It is visible by just turning on the news. It visible on this very forum.

Where is their visible division?

If one were to compare beehives, fundamentalist Islam has killer bees.

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Because the only thing you see on the news is the demonstrations and bad stuff.

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Originally Posted by vidcc

One can try to differentiate between different groups with all the "but we don't do this or that" but at the end of the day fanatics of any design are just that.

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It's not uncommon in our news to hear of people being attacked and sometimes murdered because their lifestyles are "unchristian"

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Yes it is.

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So you think it's rare to see reports of abortion clinic attacks or attacks on people that work there, attacks on gay bars etc. etc. ? You haven't heard of the resistance to having a specific "hate crime" catergory that includes attacks on homosexuals?

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Yes it is.

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So you think it's rare to see reports of abortion clinic attacks or attacks on people that work there, attacks on gay bars etc. etc. ? You haven't heard of the resistance to having a specific "hate crime" catergory that includes attacks on homosexuals?

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:lol: :lol: :lol:
You think gay bashing has to do with religion?:lol: :lol: :lol:

So now hate crimes are religiously motivated?

If I beat up the white fella 'cause he's white, it was actually 'cause he's unChristian... :ermm:

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You think gay bashing has to do with religion?:lol: :lol: :lol:

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So you don't think gays get bashed because they have been persecuted by christians/(insert various religions here) for a quite a while and people still think of it as the norm.

seems this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion people are dying and building are burning over a cartoon.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4684652.stm