Re: A Lady by the name of...
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
The sum of it is she abused her power while doing nothing wrong.
The media reports the former and ignores the latter.
Of course, this arouses no one's curiosity.
Actually, I thought the opposite until a friend pointed out the former, over dinner.
When i saw the news, I saw that she basically was within her rights to fire Walt for any reason.
He, pointed out, that they found she abused her power.
It seems the media reported everything, and in what I saw, underreported the abuse of of power.
What I think it comes down to is that, yes she fired him for not firing the brother-in-law. I don't even know the reason she wanted the br-in-law fired.
My thought is if the br-in-law was some shit cop, maybe it was just but I don't know all the details.
Is Walt's dealings with subordinates supposed to be out of her purview?
Did she want the br-in-law fired for weird some personal shit?
If it was some personal shit then she's pretty fucked up and if the report basically says she fired people for whateverthefuck reason, I think one would be either a fool or hive-minded party follower to think it's okay cuz "well she didn't brake the law".
That's like the guy who commits pedophilia with all evidence pointing to him, but he gets off on a technicality so it's ok to let him watch your kids.
I will check on this further.
Re: A Lady by the name of...
This is making the rounds-
AND THIS GUY WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT!
Now isn't this something to think about?!
If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers, a known terrorist.
If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his own body guard! And yet he can be elected our President??? Amazing...
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
This is making the rounds-
AND THIS GUY WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT!
Now isn't this something to think about?!
If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers, a known terrorist.
If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his own body guard! And yet he can be elected our President??? Amazing...
Wow, so even you buy into this association.
It's funny how this known terrorist is able to walk free and hold a job teaching others.
I'm sure this is making the rounds....in certain circles.
I wonder how true it is.
Explain what his association was.
edit: You guys are really reaching. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge? This Ayers would then knock out anyone associated with it and even some in the Annenburg Foundation. Howz about all staff and his students at the Univ. Of Chicago. I think not.
What desperation.....
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers, a known terrorist.
Oddly, Bill Ayers- your "known terrorist" was never convicted of anything.
He went on to become a professor at the U. of Chicago and has been "hiding" in plain site for what, almost 40 years.
Get off the "known terrorist" crap...these smears are just as flawed as associating McCain with the Keating scandal. If Obama is guilty by association, then so is McCain...which way do you want to have it?
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
This is making the rounds-
AND THIS GUY WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT!
Now isn't this something to think about?!
If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers, a known terrorist.
If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his own body guard! And yet he can be elected our President??? Amazing...
Wow, so even you buy into this association.
It's funny how this known terrorist is able to walk free and hold a job teaching others.
I'm sure this is making the rounds....in certain circles.
I wonder how true it is.
Explain what his association was.
Oh, let's see...I think Barack's explanation goes something like, "He's just a guy from my neighborhood".
Good enough for you, eh?
Ayers appears to be one of Obama's greatest friends in Chi-town; helped him launch his political career, don't you know. ;)
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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clocker
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers, a known terrorist.
Oddly, Bill Ayers- your "known terrorist" was never convicted of anything.
He went on to become a professor at the U. of Chicago and has been "hiding" in plain site for what, almost 40 years.
Get off the "known terrorist" crap...these smears are just as flawed as associating McCain with the Keating scandal. If Obama is guilty by association, then so is McCain...which way do you want to have it?
Did Ayers get off on a technicality?
From what I understand, wasn't Barack 8 years old when Ayers was invoived with the Weather Underground?
Oh since I have passed a background check, myself, I know you have to pass one to go into many areas of The Capitol, Pentagon, etc. with or without escort based on level.
Does Barack have to be escorted I wonder?
I noticed j2 doesn't mention The Keating 5.
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
Did Ayers get off on a technicality?
Yes, he did.
Just like McCain escaped the Keating scandal.
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
Did Ayers get off on a technicality?
He is guilty, and by his own admission.
In light of the that fact, what do I care about how he got off?
I think he was quoted as saying something like, "Only in America: guilty as Hell, and free as a bird."
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
From what I understand, wasn't Barack 8 years old when Ayers was invoived with the Weather Underground?
What does that matter?
Ayers was moved to applaud 9/11; I don't think Obama was a youngster in 2001.
Do you?
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Busyman
Oh since I have passed a background check, myself, I know you have to pass one to go into many areas of The Capitol, Pentagon, etc. with or without escort based on level.
Oh, is ACORN doing background checks, too?
They've obviously overlooked your "shopping" habits, and your stash of microwave ovens - I hope they don't find the keys to your mom's "shed".
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Busyman
I noticed j2 doesn't mention The Keating 5.
Okay, here you go:
Keating 5.
A DEMOCRAT committee found him blameless.
Talk about it all you like.
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
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Oh, let's see...I think Barack's explanation goes something like, "He's just a guy from my neighborhood".
Good enough for you, eh?
Ayers appears to be one of Obama's greatest friends in Chi-town; helped him launch his political career, don't you know. ;)
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...ill_ayers.html
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McCain: Look, we don't care about an old washed-up terrorist and his wife, who still, at least on Sept. 11, 2001, said he still wanted to bomb more. ... The point is, Senator Obama said he was just a guy in the neighborhood. We need to know that's not true.
Obama never said Ayers was "just" a guy in the neighborhood. The quote is from a Democratic primary debate on April 16 in Philadelphia, and Obama actually was more forthcoming than McCain lets on. Obama specifically acknowledged working together with Ayers on a charitable board, and didn't deny getting some early political support from him. Here's the exchange:
ABC News' George Stephanopoulos, April 16: An early organizing meeting for your state senate campaign was held at his house, and your campaign has said you are friendly. Can you explain that relationship for the voters, and explain to Democrats why it won't be a problem?
Obama: George, but this is an example of what I'm talking about.
This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn't make much sense, George.
Sen. Hillary Clinton then said, "I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation," and predicted that "this is an issue that certainly Republicans will be raising."
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Ayers was moved to applaud 9/11;
Not true
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Despite the fairly mainstream life he lives now, though, Bill Ayers' image took a hit with an article that appeared in the New York Times on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. Ayers was quoted in the lead paragraph as saying, ''I don't regret setting bombs'' and "I feel we didn't do enough." The interview had been conducted earlier, in connection with the publication of Ayers' memoir of his years as a fugitive. But when the quotes appeared on the same day thousands died at the World Trade Center and elsewhere, they enraged his critics.
You are right Ayers did admit his actions.
@Busyman
Re the background check thing, [conspiracy theory] didn't you know Obama has had secret service men following him around since announcing his candidacy? Oh sure the official reason given is "protection" but we all know it's really to keep an eye on every move that Arab makes :shifty:[/conspiracy theory]
Re: A Lady by the name of...
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Originally Posted by
j2k4
He is guilty, and by his own admission.
In light of the that fact, what do I care about
how he got off?
I think he was quoted as saying something like,
"Only in America: guilty as Hell, and free as a bird."
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
From what I understand, wasn't Barack 8 years old when Ayers was invoived with the Weather Underground?
What does that matter?
Ayers was moved to applaud 9/11; I don't think Obama was a youngster in 2001.
Do you?
You are making shit up
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
Oh since I have passed a background check, myself, I know you have to pass one to go into many areas of The Capitol, Pentagon, etc. with or without escort based on level.
Oh, is ACORN doing background checks, too?
They've obviously overlooked your "shopping" habits, and your stash of microwave ovens - I hope they don't find the keys to your mom's "shed".
So with all that bullshit you are talking, I see you don't know what you're talking about.
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Originally Posted by
Busyman
I noticed j2 doesn't mention The Keating 5.
Okay, here you go:
Keating 5.
A
DEMOCRAT committee found him blameless.
Talk about it all you like.
Oh so what did anyone convict Obama of? What was Ayers convicted of?
Hell the Keating 5 was about McCain and his association and very good friend of known criminal. McCain was investigated for a crime.
What crime was Obama even investigated for? An association.
I put forth that McCain's association was much closer to Keating than Obama's was to Ayers....and again, this association prompted an investigation FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
Nice try though. Obama's association has prompted an investigation by witch hunters about...well....nothing.
