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Busyman,

This forum is rather formulaic.

Step 1: A Topic is started, supposedly to discuss a point, but often times as a thinly veiled jump off point for America bashing.

Step 2: is people bringing their sack of "issues" about America with them to take us off the topic. Said issues are usually conveyed as below:

Just using the "Moonbase thread" as an example "Fuck America, how could they waste so much money to camp on a rock with all the pain and suffering going on at home. Stupid fools"!

Step 3: the actual topic becomes irrelevant and people start responding to the EMOTION of the other posters and not their actual points. A responder may agree that space exploration is excessive, feeling that health care should be priority number 1, but respond in the defensive because of the vitriol in the post above. It is like talking about your sister. You feel free to call her a stupid bitch, but you will beat the crap out of anyone outside your family who calls her that.

Step 4: Thread vaults off topic, usually relating to American hypocracy, corruption or the general stupidity of the average US citizen. Customarily selected zingers are employed such as "your appointed, not elected President" or "brainwashed by your government controlled media". If we are lucky perhaps a parallel will be drawn between the US policies and the Nazi's and our society will be referred to as Orwellian . The coup de grace is "9/11, get over it already! You guys are just blowing it all out of proportion!"

It seems that few people have actually figured how to disagree and to express this disagreement in a way that leads to something useful. Most people are lead by their emotions about America (as I discussed earlier) and have no interest in anything but delivering a few cathartic cheap shots.

Look how they got you stirred up.

I tip my cap to those exceptions here who don't peddle shit.

Tru dat hobbes. I was ready to smack someone in the mouth and I'm on the internet. :lol:

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Originally posted by hobbes@10 January 2004 - 19:58
Step 2: is people bringing their sack of "issues" about America with them to take us off the topic. Said issues are usually conveyed as below:

Just using the "Moonbase thread" as an example "Fuck America, how could they waste so much money to camp on a rock with all the pain and suffering going on at home. Stupid fools"!

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-erm i can't find that post anywhere on the thread i started..that thread was as stated aimed at American (i am a taxpaying American) and as far as i can see the only person that gave issue to it was another American

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Originally posted by vidcc+10 January 2004 - 23:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (vidcc &#064; 10 January 2004 - 23:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@10 January 2004 - 19:58
Step 2: is people bringing their sack of "issues" about America with them to take us off the topic. Said issues are usually conveyed as below:

Just using the "Moonbase thread" as an example "Fuck America, how could they waste so much money to camp on a rock with all the pain and suffering going on at home. Stupid fools"&#33;

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-erm i can&#39;t find that post anywhere on the thread i started..that thread was as stated aimed at American (i am a taxpaying American) and as far as i can see the only person that gave issue to it was another American [/b][/quote]
WTF HE SAID EXAMPLE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

This is what "I" have been talking about hobbes.
Folks lack of logic and READING.
vidcc even with context of his sentence AND the fact you didn&#39;t see that post on that thread, I can&#39;t believe you didn&#39;t deduce the "example".

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Originally posted by vidcc+10 January 2004 - 23:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (vidcc &#064; 10 January 2004 - 23:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@10 January 2004 - 19:58
Step 2: is people bringing their sack of "issues" about America with them to take us off the topic. Said issues are usually conveyed as below:

Just using the "Moonbase thread" as an example "Fuck America, how could they waste so much money to camp on a rock with all the pain and suffering going on at home. Stupid fools"&#33;

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-erm i can&#39;t find that post anywhere on the thread i started..that thread was as stated aimed at American (i am a taxpaying American) and as far as i can see the only person that gave issue to it was another American [/b][/quote]
I was a making generalization, to make a point. In regard to your thread, I intentionally added the word "usually" as I made a review of your posts and determined that you were American.

Did you read the first reply in your thread? Didn&#39;t take long to fullfil my prophecy.

yes i read the first reply and he did correct himself as being rather foolish because he didn&#39;t read the article.


just a question busyman....have you ever posted without profanities?...be they the whole word or just shortform

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Originally posted by vidcc@11 January 2004 - 00:06
yes i read the first reply and he did correct himself as being rather foolish because he didn&#39;t read the article.


just a question busyman....have you ever posted without profanities?...be they the whole word or just shortform

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I actually wrote my post before reading your thread, I just chose it because I thought it looked like a promising one to make my point for me. Checking back later, I saw his post and his apology. It was a most unusal thing to see, and I praise him for being man enough to step up like that.

Most people here, when shown to be incorrect or in the wrong, just disappear rather than say, "oh, good point". Then they re-emerge days later, spouting the same shit again, as they have no interest in truth, but rather, are only interested in spreading their agendas.

@Busyman,

Another sad aspect of this forum is that people tend to be infatuated with their posts and fail to read anything not directly related to them.

How many times have you had to type, "As I stated before...... or "As discussed by "X" earlier...".

It is really frustrating as the thread spins like a wheel on ice, rather than progressing.

"As stated earlier .... " or any derivative, is very common in the written word.

I myself use it often.

I also use "As X said .... " as a form of acknowledgment, that someone else has made the same point.

I make no apology for either. In my world they are perfectly normal and acceptable terms.

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Originally posted by vidcc@11 January 2004 - 00:06
yes i read the first reply and he did correct himself as being rather foolish because he didn&#39;t read the article.


just a question busyman....have you ever posted without profanities?...be they the whole word or just shortform

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Aww shit yeah

More so recently during this damn thread.

Just venting my little frustration with others reading comprehension. <_<

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Originally posted by Busyman+11 January 2004 - 01:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman &#064; 11 January 2004 - 01:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-vidcc@11 January 2004 - 00:06
yes i read the first reply and he did correct himself as being rather foolish because he didn&#39;t read the article.


just a question busyman....have you ever posted without profanities?...be they the whole word or just shortform

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Aww shit yeah

More so recently during this damn thread.

Just venting my little frustration with others reading comprehension. <_<[/b][/quote]
Your own writing would not suffer from the appropriate use of the comma.