Re: What Trackers Are Worth [With Reviews and Ratings]
Yes it is about sharing but there also needs to be a security element, which this thread does damage too.
A lot of sites these days ban people for uploading what they got from them to other sites which is also imho opinion damaging those sites as it means it harder for the smaller sites to get stuff up so quick and this would then take some attention off them.
But that is just my opinion as I don't need to use other sites uploads for me own site and do not have any problems if people upload stuff from us to any other site as long as they follow our seeding rules :D
Re: What Trackers Are Worth [With Reviews and Ratings]
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flamers
If trackers are more valuable, people have to know, n00bs can't just join in.commerciality is a predectable and acceptable aspect.
You missed the point. They aren't valuable. The value is implied right here. There is none. It is entirely imagined.
If the levels were based on quality rather than rarity it might be a different matter.
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Well, even the best linux apps tracker is probably gonna be lvl 2, because noone wants it, but it would have a 10 for content rating, seems fine.
But I think most lvl 2-3s do in fact have better performing alternatives at higher levels.
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Content ratings would still imply a value, and some sights would be sought over others. Perhaps BCG would be level 10 instead of whatever it is not based on difficulty of getting into the tracker, but it would still be some people's "dream" because of that level.
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integral
Content ratings would still imply a value, and some sights would be sought over others. Perhaps BCG would be level 10 instead of whatever it is not based on difficulty of getting into the tracker, but it would still be some people's "dream" because of that level.
So even if a tracker is actually better content-wise, its bad to give the suggestion of aiming for it.....
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when we were lvl 4 and closed and exclusive, members wanted us for the rarity, when we went down to lvl 2, they didnt want us anymore, even some members that had been with us from the start.
I got a few PMs saying ewww, we are not exclusive anymore, we went from lvl 4 down to lvl 2, i dont want to be a member anymore cya.
content was still the same, probably even better, but because the E-Penis side had gone, members left.
Personally i couldnt work that one out myself lol, but this is just one of the things this thread does.
whether we like it or not, its bad for the bittorrent community and the trackers themselves.
i just cant see any good in this at all.
People say its to help traders, and thats the only good of it, but i dont even think it helps them, i think it hinders them in a big way, just because a tracker is lvl 7-10 in this list, does not make it any good, or any better than a 1-3 tracker, they are probably worse actually.
and if getting rid of this thread means that members can get back to trading for what they want, not just whats hard to get into, and they may not like, then all the better as far as im concerned.
look at BitmeTV they just opened, members are saying, why the hell did they open, they are going to be down to lvl 2.
SO FUCK, who cares, they are still the same tracker for gods sake.
rarity has just taken over everything else. and its just wrong, and i cant see how anyone can argue any different, the 1 thing that is not imprtant at all, is now, the 1 and only thing that is important.
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This topic is also probably why some new sites get flammed down when they are mentioned here. I will admit some do start up with little knowledge and have very little content when they post about the tracker and should spend some time getting it to a level where they would join and use the site them selves by getting in friends etc and building it up a bit 1st.
I never mentioned GTi on here till it was a yr old and as far as I am concerned it is now running quiet well has a good enough user base that is quiet active.
I am on a lot of trackers where friends are either staff or owners that are as good in the community stakes as any of the top trackers, staff and owner may not be quiet so knowledgable or experienced as some of the hi level trackers.
So I cannot understand why people say they want x or y tracker for the community when they have no or very little knowledge of what it is really like.
If these people spent some time checking new smaller sites out they might find a good home for there needs and boost that tracker and make it better by getting there friends there as well.
P.S. stoi u want me make a campaign to get BCG to lvl 1 :lol:
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I tried to get it down to lvl 1, but we sort of stuck at lvl 2, only way we will get to lvl 1 is if we opened all the time, the problem is we have been lvl 4 before, so lots of members make dupe accounts, just incase we do close again and rise the ranks again.
This is [part] of the reason i am letting users have referals, i was going to give everyone 100 of the things, and totally flood the market with them but changed my mind, but users still get them.
you have to be a member for 6 months, have the badge of honour (no hit and runs) 0.7 actual ratio (what you have acctually uploaded), 25 completed torrents in your history, and not Kitty Litter to get these, but even if thats only 10,000 members, thats still 50,000 of these things floating about in the system. but class means nothing in these, if a SPu has only been there 12 weeks, he still has to wait another 12 to get them.
and hopefully members are more careful with who they give them to, because they acctually get bonuses and even promotions if they bring in good members.
I know a lot will be sold, or put on here as trades and giveaways, im not that naive, but if there referers fuck up, we may see them stop doing that, because they cant get any bonuses for bringing them in like that.
and lets face it, everyone likes their ratio, and promotions to higher ranks, even though it does not really mean sod all on most trackers. they still like it.
all im trying to do here, is help newbies and some oldies out that think this thread is the be all and end all of what trackers are worth, its not, and as soon as more members realise this, the better.
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Now that that trades and give aways are seperate may be another option is make it so people have to have been here for a yr and have say 250 posts to access the trade section then they cannot view this topic but unable to trade that way people new to torrenting may not get involved with trading so quickly and may know more about the whole torrenting life rather than just be in a want,want,want mode for high lvl trackers.
I do know this site covers a lot of things and changing the rules may upset some members but I think it is worth looking into :)
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ftwr must be lvl 7 now :P