Downloading music- What file type?

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Originally Posted by mbucari1

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Originally Posted by zot

Before FLAC got popular, Monkey's Audio (.APE) files were by far the most common lossless format on P2P, and you still see a lot of them on the ED2K network.

Just because it's lossless does not mean it's perfect; lossless files can still have skips and errors in them if the wav was poorly ripped or the CD was scratched. (That's when EAC comes in handy)

But for me, as hard as I've tried, I can't tell any difference whatsoever between a lossless and a high-bitrate MP3, and I doubt that many people can either.

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What's also rarely mentioned is that CD's are actually a lossy encoding of the original studio recording. Studios record at a much high frequency and have a MUCH higher bit depth. You can sometimes get the original studio quality (or very close to it) with DVD-Audio or SACD. Those who say they have a great sound system should seriously look into DVD-A's and SACD's. If you hear the difference between CDs and V0 mp3's, Then you'll definately hear the difference between HD-Audio and CD's. Regular CD's will sound like crap in comparison.

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By that definition, all digital recording is "lossy", because no matter how high the sample rate / bit depth is, it will never be a 1:1 reproduction of the analogue source.

And that's the point, the source in most cases is the CD (16bit / 44.1 khz). FLAC and other lossless compression algorithms allow the indeed lossless compression of digital sources, not just CDs.

Without continuing your debate, I'll say I only DL FLAC these days. I used to go for MP3s before (anything over 128 bitrate), but since getting into Pedro's and buying a new sound system it's FLAC all the way.

.wav ftw:snooty:

Most of the music I snatch I try to listen all of it. to do that I have to listen it in mp3 format due to my gadgets does not read flac. So mainly I download mp3 (V0). However If I had the space to and means I would download only flac.

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Originally Posted by n00bz0r

Thats true.
DVD-As and SACDs offer a higher bitrate and multiple channels.
They are the future :D

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Sadly, they're not the future. SACD's were introduced 10 years agon and DVD-A's 9 years ago. If they were going to replace anything, they would be more popular by now. The problem is twofold. First, in order to hear the difference you have to have a very good sound system and players capable of playing the disks. Second, most people don't care about the sound quality. Look at how many people buy ipods. They have some of the worst playback quality of any mp3 player on the market, yet they're by far the most popular. On top of that, people happliy downloaded 128kbps AAC's from itunes for years before they upped the encoding quality. And most of the people pirating their music are content to get a 128Kbps mp3 as long as it's the song they want. The low standards of the masses will end up limiting the availability of high quality audio.

EDIT** Another example of the masses settling is that they use youtube to listen to music. I understand the need to be able to pull up a song quickly, but there are a lot of music search engines that let you stream from the web. I've tried showing these to friends, but they don't care. They're content with what youtube has to offer.

FLAC ... best quality!

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Originally Posted by Judoka

FLAC ... best quality!

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Even if someone transcoded an mp3 into a wav and then compressed it with flac?

General statements like yours aren't terribly helpful.

as a music lover I want the best quality
mp320 or FLAC i donwload most.

FLAC if you really like the music you are listening to.

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Originally Posted by Hrusciov

FLAC if you really like the music you are listening to.

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that's not a matter of loving the music you're listening, that's a matter of having the adequate hi-fi equipment to enjoy all the nuances of flac quality.