Re: BitTorrent - New trackers,- power abuse, profit-minded, no variation. Your though
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Originally Posted by
ca_aok
3) Many of these trackers try to promote secrecy and exclusivity right from the get go, i.e. they try to be rare and desired on purpose to generate buzz about their site
4) Because of this, most trackers have the exact same members during the beta/startup phase, and because these members often have so many trackers already activity stagnates
Very well said.
And this is why most new trackers(or at least the ones that caaok described) are not worth joining. They're just the same that most of us are already so used to. Same members, same files, same lame threads in the forums, etc. To me BT has become very boring.
I'm definitely not against anyone making a tracker. Who knows, maybe someone will come up with the next best thing. Or a niche that hasn't been filled yet. But these people that start up all these new, seemingly faceless 0day sites, really need to start putting some original ideas into their sites. As Idol pointed it's usually wise to emulate any business(or anything else) that has succeeded in the past, and is still succeeding. But I just don't think that's enough in the bt world. I think that original ideas is the better way to go, instead of just making another FTN or SCC.
Re: BitTorrent - New trackers,- power abuse, profit-minded, no variation. Your though
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Originally Posted by
Funkin'
As Idol pointed it's usually wise to emulate any business(or anything else) that has succeeded in the past, and is still succeeding. But I just don't think that's enough in the bt world. I think that original ideas is the better way to go, instead of just making another FTN or SCC.
At the same time nothing great ever comes from simply emulation.
It's OK to start with a good idea but at some point you need to expand on it or you are merely further dividing an already saturated market with the resultant increasingly diminishing returns.
Oh course as has been pointed out the main goal of some of these trackers ( even one created by "established" people) is only to give themselves some status so I doubt is larger goals are a consideration.
Re: BitTorrent - New trackers,- power abuse, profit-minded, no variation. Your though
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Originally Posted by Qlix
And why can't you, the people that open up new trackers, aim on different things than 0day. Be a little creative, go another direction like music, applications, hell, Family Guy torrents? Whatever, just make something different.
If you want different, I almost created a tracker exclusively for stand-up comedy, but I couldn't find a coder who didn't charge outrageous prices for shoddy work.
Re: BitTorrent - New trackers,- power abuse, profit-minded, no variation. Your though
Ok...
There isn't a definite answer to your question and I believe valid arguments can be made on both sides.Our version of morality aside,I've come to look at torrent sites as I do non-profit organizations.
The goal of a non-profit is to not make profit i.e break even after covering all costs.As you know,most of these organizations will have people actively volunteering but not everyone working for them is necessarily a volunteer(plumbers,electricians,guards)and you also have the white collars like the finance people that you'll actually have to put on a payroll.
I dunno if you get the gist of what am trying to get at but non-profits too have to make money to cover costs that actually include salaries for some employees.
I value honesty and transparency...like alot and I think its something that takes courage.If you got salaried individuals on your staff then don't tell me you want donations solely coz of server costs.That's you being dishonest and basically insulting the intelligence of people who diligently use your site.Why don't you just come clean with the kind of work or hours these salaried individuals put on the site (you don't even have to give their names) and see how that goes.
BT is evolving whether we like it or not,the old guard doesn't like it,they refuse to be phased out by the young gunz and that's why you see all this drama they are brewing from these retirement homes.lol this last paragraph feels a little offtopic but you get my point :P.
Re: BitTorrent - New trackers,- power abuse, profit-minded, no variation. Your though
i wouldn't mind a tracker that would complement all these 0-day ones. A general tracker, that is non-scene only, small tight-nit community for security, no ratio, no seed time. obviously it'll never happen, but it would be aewsome.
Re: BitTorrent - New trackers,- power abuse, profit-minded, no variation. Your though
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BT is evolving whether we like it or not,the old guard doesn't like it,they refuse to be phased out by the young gunz and that's why you see all this drama they are brewing from these retirement homes.lol this last paragraph feels a little offtopic but you get my point
sorry but i dont get it at all.
BT evolving? how?
old getting phased out by new? where?
as far as i can see, BT is the same as it was 6 years ago, only difference is more press and more seedboxes, and most of these new trackers, like has been said, wont last 4 months, and 99% of them will stick to global ratios, so again how are they and BT in general evolving, and why should the old guard (and by that i believe you are including me) be pissed off with new trackers, for me bring them on, plenty of downloaders and seeders out there that have no private tracker, so why not, just because most on here have 30 private trackers to choose from, there are a hell of a lot more that have 0.
Honestly, I don`t see new trackers as competition, I dont see any tracker as competition, we are all in this to share, so the more trackers sharing, the better it is for everyone imho. And if a tracker does come up with a new idea (to evolve BT), great.
Re: BitTorrent - New trackers,- power abuse, profit-minded, no variation. Your though
Half of the new generation can't even code a tracker themselves. I've seen many idiots asking the stupidest of questions over at TBDEV.net. Real coders know how to do it.
Just ask trackers with nice designs (iTS, ScL, etc).
Re: BitTorrent - New trackers,- power abuse, profit-minded, no variation. Your though
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Originally Posted by
Ewwwyourface
ppl make sites cuz their bitches they need power on the internet lol cabalo said it its a bunch of 12 yr old kids who think they are sweet cuz they make terrible sites and tell every1 they are sysops lmfao
My opinion is that 12 year old kid wont be capable to start good tracker.
For that you need to be good coder.
Re: BitTorrent - New trackers,- power abuse, profit-minded, no variation. Your though
not sure what CSS/HTML has to do with PHP/MYSQL, Ok its all coding, but designing a theme for TBDEV is pretty easy, writing a mod from scratch that will change the way the tracker works, is the hard part.
The only reason i have not had a go at a theme for BCG is because I am colour blind, so it would look great to me, but shit to everyone else lol
EDIT: all i am trying to say is, just because a site looks nice, does not mean its secure, bug free etc (not including the 2 sites mentioned)
Re: BitTorrent - New trackers,- power abuse, profit-minded, no variation. Your though
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Originally Posted by
FreeCandy
For that you need to be good coder.
Did you just read what I said?
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Originally Posted by
stoi
The only reason i have not had a go at a theme for BCG is because I am colour blind, so it would look great to me, but shit to everyone else lol
Best quote ever. :lol:
