Demonoid Confusion

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

the Demonoid tracked torrents are private

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I just downloaded a Demonoid-tracker torrent as a guest. :unsure:

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Ratio is not meaningless, but it is not enforced...

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That's what I meant with "meaningless".

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They do not track by IP address... they track by 'member number'.

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This is wrong. I suggest you change your IP and try to download a Demonoid torrent without being logged in to the site with your new address. You'll see your stats don't update.

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For example - White.Collar.S02E04.By.the.Book.HDTV.XviD.FQM.269XXXX.6834.torrent

269XXXX.6834 is a member number... edit that number out of the torrent name, and it becomes a 'public' (non-ratio) torrent.

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How would they know you've changed the number? The filename isn't passed to the tracker, and the info_hash remains the same.

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Originally Posted by anon-sbi

I just downloaded a Demonoid-tracker torrent as a guest. :unsure:

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Demonoid allows a limited number of 'free' downloads by 'guests'. If you look at the torrent name, it won't have a 'member-number'.

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Ratio is not meaningless, but it is not enforced...

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That's what I meant with "meaningless".

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If you say so... my response was more accurate.

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They do not track by IP address... they track by 'member number'.

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This is wrong. I suggest you change your IP and try to download a Demonoid torrent without being logged in to the site with your new address. You'll see your stats don't update.

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Again, I refer you to the 'member-number'. Proof... the torrent you downloaded as a 'guest', and the same torrent being available on Pirate Bay, etc. The 'external copies' won't have the 'member-number' in the filename.

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For example - White.Collar.S02E04.By.the.Book.HDTV.XviD.FQM.269XXXX.6834.torrent

269XXXX.6834 is a member number... edit that number out of the torrent name, and it becomes a 'public' (non-ratio) torrent.

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How would they know you've changed the number? The filename isn't passed to the tracker, and the info_hash remains the same.[/QUOTE]

Again, 'member-number'... not the 'private-flag'... and the 'external copies'.

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Demonoid allows a limited number of 'free' downloads by 'guests'. If you look at the torrent name, it won't have a 'member-number'.

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Yes, that's right.

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Again, 'member-number'... not the 'private-flag'... and the 'external copies'.

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I fail to see how this number is passed to the tracker. I downloaded the same .torrent while logged in to my account, and they're exactly the same (checked the MD5).

The member number you mention is merely appended to the filename when you download .torrents while logged in and isn't used to identify you when you leech or seed. Even if it was, it's easily changeable like you mentioned.

Your failure to understand is your problem, the facts I stated remain.

Wwwildthing, I'm sorry but you're talking out your ass here. You cannot edit the filename of a .torrent file and expect any sort of change. I could rename my torrent to "thisfilesuckscocks.torrent" and the torrent will work, regardless. The name is irrelevant. Editing a filename has nothing to do with whether a torrent is public or private, nor does it have any effect on the ratio reported to the tracker. Even external torrents will generally have the demonoid tracker in their tracker list, which will cause stats to be reported to the tracker regardless of whether the peers you're connected to were obtained from demonoid's tracker or openbittorrent's tracker.

The "member number" is just a generated number, it's irrelevant. Your ratio is tracked based on your IP, since demonoid doesn't use passkeys. It's mostly irrelevant though since the demonoid staff team doesn't give two craps about your ratio.

By the way, your "member number" that you describe is not your member number. You can view your userid by checking your torrent list from your profile, it's a completely different number.

AND I just checked and an external torrent also had that number appended.

Alright, completely confused =/

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Originally Posted by ticchen

Alright, completely confused =/

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Don't worry about it mate... you'll find this happens with about 99 out of 100 threads posted. Just wade through what's posted and try to take info out of it that answers your question.

Threads on here start of addressing what you originally asked, then they take a complete tangent as other people jump in and start to converse with each other. It's not a slight on you, just look at any other threads :lol:

Also, don't worry if you don't understand some stuff... you'll notice some members knowledge is greater than others, and their 'base level' if higher than a lot can understand, again it happens :) If you're really lucky, you'll get some idiot pretending to be an expert only to be shot down in flames... those are the good threads :)

I downloaded the same torrent 3 times... once while logged-in, once as a 'guest' (same IP address on both) and finally while using TOR... the only difference between the 3 files, was the 'member-name'.

This is why it also works when you download the same torrent from The Pirate bay (verified by MD5 check).

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

There is alot of mis-information in this thread.

blah blah blah, the Demonoid tracked torrents are private, blah blah blah.......

Anyone who tells you differently, is mis-informed.

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Comedy gold .
Non-members have always had limited access to Demonoid tracked torrents .

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Originally Posted by Wwwildthing

There is alot of mis-information in this thread.

blah blah blah, the Demonoid tracked torrents are private, blah blah blah.......

Anyone who tells you differently, is mis-informed.

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Comedy gold .
Non-members have always had limited access to Demonoid tracked torrents .

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Yes, I stated this in my follow-up post.