Freeleech on Rutracker ???

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Originally Posted by RussianNinja

Why am i screw up other's ratio????
I'm not cheating, i'm seeding back with seedbox! My buffer means what i already gave to others! It's not a shame or something.

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Ratio is a sort of zero-sum game. If you make a 15.0 ratio on a torrent, it means 14 other people weren't able to upload anything.

On a pure ratio tracker, those people would eventually be banned if they don't manage to upload more. Thankfully, most trackers take more relaxed approaches (low ratio requirements, bonus points, What.cd's "required ratio" system, or no ratios whatsoever).

stoi was faster, and that reminds me I forgot to give his site's wonderful SP system as another example :)

yeah, i like that SP sytem on BCG... and you forgot to tell about pedro's overseeding rule...

BUT...

if i upload to 150 member, than 150 lucky fellow can DOWNLOAD actually from me...
And believe me, if someone don't have a great ratio, he won't download a huge torrent.

That is bittorrent game.

And don't tell me i'm doing something wrong because of i seeding like hell with my box. The more i seed the more people can get the data thanks to my box, and that's the game trackers (mostly of them) allow it!

If you hate seedbox, than it's not my fault.

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Originally Posted by RussianNinja

if i upload to 150 member, than 150 lucky fellow can DOWNLOAD actually from me...
And believe me, if someone don't have a great ratio, he won't download a huge torrent.

That is bittorrent game.

And don't tell me i'm doing something wrong because of i seeding like hell with my box. The more i seed the more people can get the data thanks to my box, and that's the game trackers (mostly of them) allow it!

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If you think you're doing things right, then by all means keep it up. After all, most sites don't forbid seedbox whoring, anyway.

if you are talking to me, I dont hate seedboxes, but our SP was made to combat them for the reasons above (well 1 of many reasons but still 1 of the reasons).

The problem with most SB users is they seed the arse off well leeched torrents, probably never wanting what they are seeding, (I am not talking about the initial uploaders here) for 2 or 3 days, then when the frurore wears off they delete the data never to come back when its like 6 months or more old, and help the leechers out then if they are struggling with low speed on an old torrent. Average Seeding time for 90% of seedbox members is 2 days or so, and really what is the point of having a high ratio.

Now a seedbox member that uploads is fine, a one that stays around after the initial frurore is fine, but those that just upload as much as possible and then bugger off, well those to me are not very good members and are only in it for the ratio for themselves.

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Originally Posted by anon-sbi

After all, most sites don't forbid seedbox whoring, anyway.

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Unfortunately.

Most sites should make it a rule. Rule 1. Don't be a douchebag with your seedbox.

I don't understand how you could possibly need a seedbox on rutracker. I have a severely limited 8kbps upload from my home connection and yet:

Down: 111.48 GB ; Up: 47.42 GB. I can still grab everything I need. Seriously, I cannot comprehend why you would want to whore there of all places.

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Originally Posted by stoi

if you are talking to me, I dont hate seedboxes, but our SP was made to combat them for the reasons above (well 1 of many reasons but still 1 of the reasons).

The problem with most SB users is they seed the arse off well leeched torrents, probably never wanting what they are seeding, (I am not talking about the initial uploaders here) for 2 or 3 days, then when the frurore wears off they delete the data never to come back when its like 6 months or more old, and help the leechers out then if they are struggling with low speed on an old torrent. Average Seeding time for 90% of seedbox members is 2 days or so, and really what is the point of having a high ratio.

Now a seedbox member that uploads is fine, a one that stays around after the initial frurore is fine, but those that just upload as much as possible and then bugger off, well those to me are not very good members and are only in it for the ratio for themselves.

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No Stoi, the message was for Anon :)

I'm fully aware of the whole story.
And i admit: you're right here! Seedbox users are no help for long-time seeders..
This is something only seedbox user can understand why he make things...

I think +100-200 GB buffer is good, +200 Gb is only for e-penis.
Why am i doning then? Because i won't have a good internet after my seedbox expire, so i wanna settle things right here and right now.
+500 GB buffer is fine for the world largest private site, isn't it? :)
I know i don't need that much, but still.. i wanna be a good guy, who 1st: give 2nd: take.

Ok so just being Devils advocate here you understand.

1: is the buffer so you can hit and run everything intentionally

2: is the buffer because you have a home connection and all the seedboxes bully you out of seeding, you will still try but you know fighting seedboxes is a futile task.

if its 1, then you are definately not a good user in my eyes

if its 2, then arent you not just multiplying the problem by getting a seedbox and doing what those are doing to you, to others?

Who the heck convinced you that having a seedbox is tantamount to being a good sharer? The two are mutually exclusive, whether you believe it or not. I share by providing insane retention on rutracker of all places, I think some torrents I'm seeding have been in my client since I joined the tracker. You don't need to upload bytes transiently to feel good about giving back, give back by immortalizing the torrents in your client (as you should with any music, to be honest). I assure you, your connection as abysmal as it may be, doesn't even come within a close enough range to be comparable to mine. And yet, I survive on rutracker.

Because i can leave the torrent run, but nobody wants from my client. And if this situation holds, i'm not a good user, who can't give back (and my ratio fail and i can't download everything). I don't wanna hit and run, but after weeks passing you don't upload everything, is it worth to try?

That's why i love your SP system... It's a fair game. Tracker tell me what to do, i do it, and everything is ok.

But i like to move along... I don't wanna analyze my torrent behavior, because it's like life: everybody needs to survive, i just one of the torrenters who sometimes grab a seedbox. Thats all. I don't wanna fight against non-seedboxers. Everybody can choose which way he settle things.

My question i can't find an answer:

I downloaded this: **removed**

But no downloaded amount.

What the heck? Was this torrent FREE ?????

Please somebody help me out, why is this?
Are there any free torrents on Rutracker (for example torrents with bigger than 30 GB file size?) ?