Re: help seting up seedbox on freebsd
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Artemis
The question I have is why would you configure a seedbox using FreeBSD when there are SELinux distro's available which offer a high level of security (ie Fedora) but are far less awkward to configure than FreeBSD which after all is designed for large server farms.
I feel comfortable with jails in freebsd than SELinux in linux distros.
That is the reason why I rarely bother trying to type reasoned replies to questions any more, because illiterate cunts come back with stupid one liners all the time.
Re: help seting up seedbox on freebsd
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Artemis
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Aby
I feel comfortable with jails in freebsd than SELinux in linux distros.
That is the reason why I rarely bother trying to type reasoned replies to questions any more, because illiterate cunts come back with stupid one liners all the time.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO...ook/jails.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD_jail
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Re: help seting up seedbox on freebsd
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Aby
It's like extracting teeth round here, what does it take for you to write complete sentences and explain yourself? The contention still stands by the way Aby, no matter how comfortable you are setting up jail or whether you just found it doing a search using google which is what I suspect from the lack of explanation on your part, how exactly is that going to help the OP. How exactly does your post in anyway contribute exactly?
The whole point of my post is that Fedora for a new user is a great deal easier to configure than FreeBSD and having SE (Security Enhanced) Linux making it simpler yet again for a new user. How exactly is a virtualisation system going to be EASIER for a new user?
You're still a moron after all these years Abybeats and you still don't listen to anyone else, why don't go and play under a bus.
Re: help seting up seedbox on freebsd
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It's like extracting teeth round here, what does it take for you to write complete sentences and explain yourself?
You seemed to know a good deal about the stuff, so I assumed you were familiar with jails as well; and also, somewhere along the lines, I turned into a minimalist; minimum words to get the point across, context provided.
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The contention still stands by the way Aby, no matter how comfortable you are setting up jail or whether you just found it doing a search using google which is what I suspect from the lack of explanation on your part, how exactly is that going to help the OP. How exactly does your post in anyway contribute exactly?
Jails is a default feature in freebsd, and is integrated/tested well, so there is no setting up everything to work correctly to boot; and, an hour understanding Jails is far more productive than fighting SE all the time in the long run. (If you are using freebsd, that is.)
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The whole point of my post is that Fedora for a new user is a great deal easier to configure than FreeBSD and having SE (Security Enhanced) Linux making it simpler yet again for a new user. How exactly is a virtualisation system going to be EASIER for a new user?
If a user is expected to touch SE, then he should be a power user at least, and hence why the mention of Jails; and Jails is part virtualisation, part security feature. Why I find Jails a better option is because its simpler and more intuitive than SE which is kinda complex to do the trivial of things. Like they say, simple be simple and complex simpler. The same reason I use FreeBSD/Archlinux.
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You're still a moron after all these years Abybeats and you still don't listen to anyone else, why don't go and play under a bus.
Yea, I guess.
Re: help seting up seedbox on freebsd
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Aby
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Artemis
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Originally Posted by Artemis
It's like extracting teeth round here, what does it take for you to write complete sentences and explain yourself?
You seemed to know a good deal about the stuff, so I assumed you were familiar with jails as well; and also, somewhere along the lines, I turned into a minimalist; minimum words to get the point across, context provided.
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Originally Posted by Artemis
The contention still stands by the way Aby, no matter how comfortable you are setting up jail or whether you just found it doing a search using google which is what I suspect from the lack of explanation on your part, how exactly is that going to help the OP. How exactly does your post in anyway contribute exactly?
Jails is a default feature in freebsd, and is integrated/tested well, so there is no setting up everything to work correctly to boot; and, an hour understanding Jails is far more productive than fighting SE all the time in the long run. (If you are using freebsd, that is.)
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Originally Posted by Artemis
The whole point of my post is that Fedora for a new user is a great deal easier to configure than FreeBSD and having SE (Security Enhanced) Linux making it simpler yet again for a new user. How exactly is a virtualisation system going to be EASIER for a new user?
If a user is expected to touch SE, then he should be a power user at least, and hence why the mention of Jails; and Jails is part virtualisation, part security feature. Why I find Jails a better option is because its simpler and more intuitive than SE which is kinda complex to do the trivial of things. Like they say, simple be simple and complex simpler. The same reason I use FreeBSD/Archlinux.
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Artemis
You're still a moron after all these years Abybeats and you still don't listen to anyone else, why don't go and play under a bus.
Yea, I guess.
I will repeat for the slow of understanding, this is not about your literacy with FreeBSD or virtualisation Aby, this thread is about a new user wanting to set up a seedbox. Explaining how you find this form of virtualisation easier and that an advanced user should understand this is yet another demonstration of your on going need to explain about yourself rather than actually participate in threads across multiple forums.
I know we could carry on this debate at great lengths, but since I am talking to a narcissist, it is an exercise in extreme futility, so I yield the floor to your magnificence, enthrall us all with just what an amazing individual you actually are and how your specific knowledge will solve this users query?
Re: help seting up seedbox on freebsd
It wasn't clear whom and what I was replying to then. I was not addressing the OP who left the thread long ago already(?). I was replying to your post and the points raised therein:
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]The question I have is why would you configure a seedbox using FreeBSD when there are SELinux distro's available which offer a high level of security (ie Fedora) but are far less awkward to configure than FreeBSD which after all is designed for large server farms.
Re: help seting up seedbox on freebsd
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Aby
It wasn't clear whom and what I was replying to then. I was not addressing the OP who left the thread long ago already(?). I was replying to your post and the points raised therein:
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Artemis
]The question I have is why would you configure a seedbox using FreeBSD when there are SELinux distro's available which offer a high level of security (ie Fedora) but are far less awkward to configure than FreeBSD which after all is designed for large server farms.
Please do doggedly carry on with this one aspect of my post I'm sure everyone will be fascinated.
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It was you who wanted 'explanations' for my 'one liner', and you say I'm doggedly carrying on?
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Aby
It was you who wanted 'explanations' for my 'one liner', and you say I'm doggedly carrying on?
Yes because you have now explained that you prefer jails as a virtualisation, that's nice. Now in the scope of this thread how exactly would jails function in configuring a seedbox for a new user? I am quite prepared to repeat this until it does finally dawn on you that my original post was a reply to this query, and that you picked up on only a single part of that post and took the thread off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the original inquiry.
By explaining about virtualisation you have confused the issue, by jumping on one point in my original post without reading the whole post.
There are times when I am prepared to let people have the last word, but you just jumped in with a random thought, without adequately explaining it on the way through a bit like electronic graffiti really, now that might be fine in the lounge, but when I am trying to answer a question lucidly and someone waltzes in with a brainfart I tend to take them to task.
Re: help seting up seedbox on freebsd
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Artemis
Now in the scope of this thread how exactly would jails function in configuring a seedbox for a new user? I am quite prepared to repeat this until it does finally dawn on you that my original post was a reply to this query, and that you picked up on only a single part of that post and took the thread off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the original inquiry.
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Aby
It wasn't clear whom and what I was replying to then. I was not addressing the OP who left the thread long ago already(?). I was replying to your post and the points raised therein:
I somewhat agreed in a similar vein to what you say before didn't I? Now let me say this explicitly. I wasn't commenting on how to configure a seedbox for a new user, nor what is, and is not easy. I was answering specifically to your post. This is a forum, and quoting specific parts that interests you enough to reply is one of its features, even if that leads to off-topic discussions, which I admit happens very rarely in FST.
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There are times when I am prepared to let people have the last word
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