Re: Astraweb, Supernews, or Frugal Usenet?
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Originally Posted by
piercerseth
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Originally Posted by
hdjunky
Are you serious? Astracrap was the first to offer up fast and free auto DMCA removals to those who sent them in. That right there is reason enough to not use them and not support that behavior. Anyone should be used besides Astra.
Of the three OP asked about, yeah I'm serious. You go on about automated dmca, but it's the Highwinds/UNS/Demon users who are always first to bitch about things missing. Then GN/Supernews. Why is that? I can tell you anecdotally from viewing nzb comments and checking completion that AW is towards the bottom of the list.
Yea but frugal Usenet is not any of those three. He did not ask about any highwinds sellers in the three mentioned.
Re: Astraweb, Supernews, or Frugal Usenet?
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Originally Posted by
hdjunky
Yea but frugal Usenet is not any of those three. He did not ask about any highwinds sellers in the three mentioned.
You're right. He mentioned usenet server and I only bring up HW/UNS as an example of real aggressive dmca. I don't have issue with Readnews or its resellers, but Frugal loses out with 300d retention (which I understand is their point), I believe the extra $2.50 for Astra's 1800 additional days of retention is good value. Against Supernews' $12.00 plan it's a no brainer.
Re: Astraweb, Supernews, or Frugal Usenet?
Thank you kind Viceroy...some real info from real experience!
Re: Astraweb, Supernews, or Frugal Usenet?
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Originally Posted by
hdjunky
Are you serious? Astracrap was the first to offer up fast and free auto DMCA removals to those who sent them in. That right there is reason enough to not use them and not support that behavior. Anyone should be used besides Astra.
Disagree and disapprove. They're not the best but they're far from the worst.
Re: Astraweb, Supernews, or Frugal Usenet?
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Originally Posted by
piercerseth
EDIT: Plus, the majority of posters are using Astra servers to upload their files to intially.
Of course, main reasoning with that is that Astra was one of the first, and continues, to offer block accounts that NEVER run out (if you don't actually USE the bits you buy!) and have, over the years, allowed lots of decent payment options. I still have a couple of block accounts (that I use daily) that were bought with an untraceable gift card and are over 10 years old.
Not to say that others have the same, on occasion. I have several other such block accounts with UNS and others as well that I also use.
But really, if one looks at the DMCA issued per server plant, then go to either Google or EFF/Chilling Effects, one would find that all the different wacky ways folks try to 'hide' things are either very good, or very poor. No matter what the header obfuscation is, if one doesn't use encryption on top of it, it's useless an will get whacked pretty quickly, and that includes these 30+ character nonsense posts.
Either you play the pay-walled web site with the 'keys', the Sickbeard or other rapid response systems, or figure out a system that doesn't rely on such.
Re: Astraweb, Supernews, or Frugal Usenet?
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DngrMs
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Originally Posted by
hdjunky
Are you serious? Astracrap was the first to offer up fast and free auto DMCA removals to those who sent them in. That right there is reason enough to not use them and not support that behavior. Anyone should be used besides Astra.
Disagree and disapprove. They're not the best but they're far from the worst.
You're right they aren't the worst...highwinds is just because they are highwinds. Astraweb is second worst because they aren't highwinds.
Are you saying Astra doesn't do auto takedowns as soon as they receive the notice? How do you know? The only way you could know was if you knew when they receive the notice to begin with. Astra started this tactic and their rep even posted they did this and seemingly had no intention; f changing it.
Re: Astraweb, Supernews, or Frugal Usenet?
'Auto'/'Instant'/whatever, it still gets whacked. So for the lack of smarts on the posting end, folks are 'expected' to go the 'autograb' route (and it's costs) or go down the pay-walled site route.
Both are ridiculous. Lots of folks use that melon on top of their shoulders, expect others to do the same, and avoid it all.
Re: Astraweb, Supernews, or Frugal Usenet?
We're downloading tv shows and movies man, we don't want to have to think about it more than 3 seconds. We want it quick and easy because we don't care about Usenet per se, it's just a means to an end.
Like taking the bus. You wanna see your girl, you don't give a dime about whether the bus is electric, diesel or whatever. You want it to be there, be effective and certainly don't wanna have to rack your brains thinking how you're gonna use it.
And maybe if at some point taking the bus is just too damn of a hassle, you'll take your car. Yeah parking is a bitch and driving is stressful but still, better than the bus.
Torrents are the car is my great analogy btw :D
Re: Astraweb, Supernews, or Frugal Usenet?
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Originally Posted by
hdjunky
Are you saying Astra doesn't do auto takedowns as soon as they receive the notice? How do you know? The only way you could know was if you knew when they receive the notice to begin with. Astra started this tactic and their rep even posted they did this and seemingly had no intention; f changing it.
No, I didn't say that but I concede I quoted more of your post than I needed to.
You can get 12 - 36 hours grace on Astra, even for "high value targets" and that's good enough for most.
Re: Astraweb, Supernews, or Frugal Usenet?
I`ve found nothing blocked (dl within a few days) on Astraweb over the last several months. My block account remains on Tweaknews but never having to use it.
There was a time in past that I can recall that basically everything was almost instant taken down on Astraweb. I assume they`ve come up with something interesting "policy wise" to delay that as not having that issue anymore.... and getting nice 8MB download speeds for $96 :D
