Girl Charged With Child Porn

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Originally posted by J'Pol
On the other hand I had taken you to be one who did not support the supply of lewd photographs of 15 year olds.

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:rolleyes:

I do not "support the supply of lewd photographs of 15 year old girls".

However I do not support jailing a 15 year old girl for posting pictures of herself on the net, labelling her a "child pornographer" and charging her with "sexual abuse of children".

That is overzealous to the point of ludicrousness.

There are plenty of real peadophiles and child pornographers for the police and courts to allocate their finite resources to.

This girl is not one of them.

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Originally posted by leftism@21 April 2004 - 00:43

I do not "support the supply of lewd photographs of 15 year old girls".

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Yes you did.

You implied that for someone to post these photographs was acceptable, as long as the poster was also the subject.

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I do not "support the supply of lewd photographs of 15 year old girls".

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Yes you did.

You implied that for someone to post these photographs was acceptable, as long as the poster was also the subject. [/b][/quote]
nah&#33; ....that aint right :angry:

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Originally posted by leftism@

I do not "support the supply of lewd photographs of 15 year old girls".

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Yes you did.

You implied that for someone to post these photographs was acceptable, as long as the poster was also the subject. [/b]

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No I did not.

I said that she should not be jailed for what she has done and should not be facing such serious charges or be labelled a "child pornographer".

Thats quite different from "implying" that what this girl did is "acceptable".

e.g. I don&#39;t think people should be jailed for sticking chewing gum on seats but it doesn&#39;t automatically follow that I find such behaviour acceptable.

As Sara said...

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Please don&#39;t get me wrong. I do not think that what she did was acceptable behaviour for a teenager but...as usual, authorities do seem to go over the top with stuff[/quote]

Most people in this thread seem to think this is OTT. Do you think they all "support the supply of lewd photographs of 15 year old girls" as well?

I think the people who were "involved" with her should get in just as much if not more trouble than her... they knew what they were doing, and I think they should be punished... I think there should be more police catching sickos online...

15 year olds today have the luxury of access to the internet which brings as many dangers as it does benefits. 15 year olds seem to be more worldly wise these days as well, even if the "wiseness" is often taken over by juvenile stupidity.
I am probably the biggest anti child porn and anti peadophile person one could meet...i would if allowed burn off the genitals of peadophiles with a blow lamp, they are evil people that need to be removed from society ( i am not advocating violence or vigilante actions...just dreaming)
Having stated my stance on this i have to say that this to me is more a case of juvenile stupidity than her being a child pornographer.
She does need to be taught a lesson.....how that lesson should be learnt is the question and i hope if it does end up in court that the judge is a good one.

all this aside what i would like to know is how this 15 year old managed to do this in the first place? I am not a great one for "blame the parents" every time a child does something wrong but to not control internet usage of one so young is irresponsible at the very least. My son is 16 and he isn&#39;t allowed unmonitored access ( my router has the option of mailing the log to me ) I allow him some slack but he doesn&#39;t get to use the net with his door closed.

Wow, horny teenager, theres a shock.

Personally I don&#39;t think you can say "You&#39;re now 18 (or 16), you are now an adult and can go out and have sex", or "You&#39;re 17 (or 15), you&#39;re only a child and you&#39;re not allowed to have sex".

Having sex, or just doing sexual things is part of what makes you an adult. You don&#39;t just turn 18 and are suddenly capable of being the "consenting" adult, out to face the world on you&#39;re own.

I think the police will drop the charges out of embarresment. What&#39;s going to happen if she asks for a trial by jury for those charges?

Prosecutor: And then what did you do?

Girl: Well, I came home from school, turned on my computer and webcam and started masturbating.

The jusry would aquit her out of sympathy. The prosecutor and DA would look terrible for making her go through that, and I think the general public would realise she exercised poor judgement but doesn&#39;t deserve to be dragged through the courts for it.


Downloader2008 - There were a lot of posts a while ago on child pornography and what you can do about giving shit to people who trade in it. You can log their IP addresses and send them to anti child porn organisations and they will crack down on them. Ask a mod to dig the threads out if you can&#39;t find them.

But do we realy need more police out there? If we all do a little bit, we can crack down on child porn ourselves.

Nope.

Zero Tolerance is Zero Tolerance.

Most things I can be malleable on but fuck that.

I&#39;d be intersted to know of her upbringing.

Now this is just ridiculous.
I can see if she was doing it with other people, but if this was entirely of her doing, then what is the problem? Protection? Fine, put her through a program so she sees what happens to people like her, but charging her, what a waste of time & money. Go after the REAL child pornographers instead.

in the medevil days, children would marry and have sex at as low as age 13. Yes, this is a true fact.