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to be honest no its not interesting.
1)Kazaa/Fast Track is full of viruses, fakes and corrupted files
2)User base is indeed dropping as users move to other networks
3)If people cant be bothered to ensure they have the latest build of something, when it is very very easy to find, then its their own fault
actually it is interesting...if this therory is correct then that means that a new "sub network" is taking shape, and it only consists of k++ users or people using 2.4.X or older version of KaZaA Media Desktop...which means there would be considerably less fakes and viruses, because the majority probally comes from KMD users.Quote:
Originally posted by hungrylilboy@12 July 2004 - 19:52
to be honest no its not interesting.
1)Kazaa/Fast Track is full of viruses, fakes and corrupted files
2)User base is indeed dropping as users move to other networks
3)If people cant be bothered to ensure they have the latest build of something, when it is very very easy to find, then its their own fault
well i have my own theory on whats happening, but i don't think it's what youre suggesting because:
i run an open source client (kceasy) in debug mode and today i was connected to a klite v2.0.2 supernode (i could tell because it identified it's network name as k-lite.tk instead of the standard KaZaA) and the usernumbers it send me were in the 2 million amount.
and later when i was connected to another supernode the usernumbers it sent me went from the 60,000-90,000 range for a about a ½ hour, then it jumped to the 2 million range for a while, then it went back to the 60,000-90,000 range all without changing supernodes
i think it might be caused by sharman updating/upgrading, or having problems with, the supernodes that handle the total user numbers. and when your supernode cant connect to them it will show the users on your current supernode and all inter connected supernodes to that one. but thats just a theory :P
i don't think it's as much a seprate network, but more like a island in the network.
it used to happen alot back when kazaa was in beta, and had less then 30,000 users.
does anyone have a 1.XX version of kazaa that still connects?
agree more so with this.Quote:
Originally posted by Vargas@12 July 2004 - 21:44
well i have my own theory on whats happening, but i don't think it's what youre suggesting because:
i run an open source client (kceasy) in debug mode and today i was connected to a klite v2.0.2 supernode (i could tell because it identified it's network name as k-lite.tk instead of the standard KaZaA) and the usernumbers it send me were in the 2 million amount.
and later when i was connected to another supernode the usernumbers it sent me went from the 60,000-90,000 range for a about a ½ hour, then it jumped to the 2 million range for a while, then it went back to the 60,000-90,000 range all without changing supernodes
i think it might be caused by sharman updating/upgrading, or having problems with, the supernodes that handle the total user numbers. and when your supernode cant connect to them it will show the users on your current supernode and all inter connected supernodes to that one. but thats just a theory :P
i don't think it's as much a seprate network, but more like a island in the network.
it used to happen alot back when kazaa was in beta, and had less then 30,000 users.
does anyone have a 1.XX version of kazaa that still connects?
@Digital Nirvana. Cant the riaa use k-lite then? Dont u think they would rather have an adware free pc to? ;) And sorry to say this but I doubt that the majority of viruses come from KMD users...these are your general public, people sharing viruses are the script kiddies, the people in the know, who most def will not be running KMD..
And if they are running an old version of k-lite then they are stupid for not upgrading...yup a subnetwork of old users...great!
no more flaming please guys
removed the 'off topic' replies..
Only one problem..... K-lite (which is using kmd2.6) also has this problem of getting low #s, so it isnt just old verions of kazaa. And anotherthing, if old verions of kazaa dont connect now, where are all the old supernodes ommng from?
"For example, if you start K-lite right now, you will only see some 80 thousand users online (you are connected to a K-lite based supernode). However, if you jump supernodes a few times you will notice the user count will eventually raise to about 2.4 Million (you are connected to a regular Kazaa supernode)."
exactly whatz been happening to me, using klr 0075
This was just a theroy, and it has been disproven by myself also...
Using the regular "offical" Kazza version, I have seen user rangers from about 2.5 million to just a few thousand. Meaning that if it is happening with the offical version, it is not the creation of a seprate network of just K-Lite users. :(
Something that would have been fairly interesting to see.
From reading in the Diet K forum, I have also read that the problems maybe caused by insufficient number of supernodes for the network to handle all the regular nodes. I think this is a rather believable scenario considering the decrepit condition of the network.
you just contradicted what you said earlier-Quote:
Originally posted by Broken@13 July 2004 - 05:32
This was just a theroy, and it has been disproven by myself also...
Using the regular "offical" Kazza version, I have seen user rangers from about 2.5 million to just a few thousand. Meaning that if it is happening with the offical version, it is not the creation of a seprate network of just K-Lite users. :(
Something that would have been fairly interesting to see.
;) wtfQuote:
I download the latest offical version of Kazaa from thier site and had no problem with user count.
~Digital Nirvana
Sorry digital nirvana.
I only started it and got the count, I didn't really play with it. I didn't see the need, I thought I was onto what was going down. After continued testing after work, I realized that I was having the same problems has with 2.4.X..
So, I decided to post say my theory was incorrect. I felt I owed posting so to the board.