Platoon defies orders in Iraq

Ruthie,

You are posting the opinions of family members and accepting it as fact. Your sources couldn't be more biased.

I am a bit bewildered to what end it would serve to send anyone on a "suicide mission". The soldiers would die and the supplies would not be delivered.

I think we will need to see how this plays out and get a more objective opinion of the situation.

At the moment, we have to consider what those people are doing that were relying on those supplies.

Has another group of soldiers done the job those soldiers refused and, if so, what happened to them?

War can be dangerous.

This may be a situation in which the soldiers were completely in the right, but I don't have enough information, other than the opinions of their wives and mothers, to make an informed decision.

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Originally Posted by hobbes

Has another group of soldiers done the job those soldiers refused and, if so, what happened to them?

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Another group of soldiers did the job, and nothing happened to them.

Edit: I find it interesting that they originally said the did not want to deliver the supplies because they would be without an armed guard, but now, their story has changed. They now claim that the fuel they were delivering was contaminated and would have caused the helicopters to crash, so apparently they are claiming they saved lives......hmm, yea ok, I believe that. Get the story straight BEFOREhand.

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Originally Posted by Comic_Peddler

Another group of soldiers did the job, and nothing happened to them.

Edit: I find it interesting that they originally said the did not want to deliver the supplies because they would be without an armed guard, but now, their story has changed. They now claim that the fuel they were delivering was contaminated and would have caused the helicopters to crash, so apparently they are claiming they saved lives......hmm, yea ok, I believe that. Get the story straight BEFOREhand.

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Looking at the story we don't have enough first hand information to tell exactly what the reason(s) was.

Seems to be mostly statements from relatives. I haven't been following this story in the media, but usually the real reason gets bound up with rumours and misquotes. so i wouldn't go judging them too quickly.:)

No one ever judges here, suredly not! :-P

Actually, when they played the recorded phone calls of the soldiers talking to family the soldiers say they DO NOT HAVE THE APPOPRIATE PROTECTION to do the job properly. They never mentioned any other reason, only this one.

And another thing, these are adults, why the hell are they running calling mommy? Mommy didn't fill out your enlistment papers, you did.

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Originally Posted by Comic_Peddler

And another thing, these are adults, why the hell are they running calling mommy? Mommy didn't fill out your enlistment papers, you did.

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Cos if you get one phonecall home who the hell are you going to call if its not your mum/wife/husband? :unsure:

They were orginally on a fuel delivery mission. That was halted because of contaminated fuel..mixed with water. Upon return, they were given another assignment..into a danger zone. Normally, on that particular type of mission, to the location they were going, there would be armored truck and helicopter escort, however there were none available.

To be fair to the guys, transporting petrol with an escort is a risky business in Iraq - without is just suicidal.

Petrol is a rather nasty thing to be sitting on when people are throwing bullets about.

Did the replacement platoon volunteer to do without an escort or was one available by then?

Sounds like there are too few troops - surely not? :o

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Originally Posted by ruthie

They were orginally on a fuel delivery mission. That was halted because of contaminated fuel..mixed with water. Upon return, they were given another assignment..into a danger zone. Normally, on that particular type of mission, to the location they were going, there would be armored truck and helicopter escort, however there were none available.

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Comic Peddler are you reading this?

RIF

I still agree that more info is needed though. It's still weird that folks come to conclusions based info that they read incorrectly.

agian RFI :blink:

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Originally Posted by Biggles

To be fair to the guys, transporting petrol with an escort is a risky business in Iraq - without is just suicidal.

Petrol is a rather nasty thing to be sitting on when people are throwing bullets about.

Did the replacement platoon volunteer to do without an escort or was one available by then?

Sounds like there are too few troops - surely not? :o

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haven't heard anything on that yet.

"I am sorry you could not see the simple irony in the fact that Ruthe was saying our soldiers cannot get the supplies they need and these soldiers were carriers of supplies"

For want of a nail the shoe is lost, for want of a shoe the horse is lost, for want of a horse the rider is lost.....