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I'm sorry, how long has it been? :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by 100%
I was without power for 3 days due to a mere thunderstorm.
Although this flooding is much more important, it is also a more logistical and massive problem.
So long? :huh: Your right, the water should have drained and all survivors finely picked out and rescued yesterday.
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yes your right - it would have wiped out the entire country of holland.
Ok I’ll take as many of these as I can.
First off 100% complained about ONLY 10 billions dollars bent sent. Well the truth of the matter is 10 billion dollars is only for the first 20 days. It is being appropriated to give us the shot in the arm that we need to get things up and running.
Then he said that we needed help the moment that we knew it was coming. The truth is that the governor of Louisiana and Mississippi declared both states disaster areas two days before the storm even hit. That way emergency funds would be ready as soon as the wind stopped blowing.
Right now the main concern is to get the people rescued. There are thousands of people that need to be picked up off of rooftops and out of attics. Once they are all taken care of then they’ll switch into cleanup mode. It’s going to take a month to get the water out of the city best case scenario. I don’t know why you would think you could wave a magic wand and all would be taken care of.
Now Peerzy. If you knew anything about history it might just help. I think that you honestly believe that Bush invented hurricanes. Fact is they’ve been hitting coastal areas for a long time. The worst storms to ever strike the U.S. (prior to Katrina) were all before 1993. The unnamed storm that hit Galveston Bay, Camille, and Andrew were category all category 5 hurricanes when they made landfall.
And if we are in Iraq for oil then why is there a shortage of oil right now in the country? Why is the President asks us to conserve oil? According to you we should be swimming in it.
This is way worse than 9/11. The day after the attacks the city functioned, not here. Nothing is up and functioning in New Orleans, Gulf Port, and Biloxi. These are cites that are crippled that have to been rebuilt from the ground up.
peerzy, there are too many people dead and dying for political capital to be made from your being Listerene.
Stop the trolling, please.
That said, i have to respond to this:
Because its supply and demand... The way Iraq has been treated has ensured that there is less supply than demand, hense huge price hikes in the the price of a barrel.Quote:
And if we are in Iraq for oil then why is there a shortage of oil right now in the country? Why is the President asks us to conserve oil? According to you we should be swimming in it.
The people to benefit from this, until Katrina, has been the Oil Companies not in the Middle East, which can sell at that high price without the terrorism that is causing the problem there ... which ones are those again? Who runs them? Family name of Bush comes to mind for interests in a few of them.. :dry:
The reason there is a shortage of Oil in the country, is that the companies sell to the buyers... which can be from anywhere in the world. US companies dont keep their product in the US, they sell to the highest bidder like everyone else.
The US is a "Net" importer of Oil.
It imports more than it exports, that does not mean it doesnt export.
Hank, I am not sure people understand the magnitude of this disaster, or the fact that no country could be totally prepared for such a disaster, even though you have certainly tried.
Right now there is the largest relief effort ever in US history going on in our country.
Local First responders are on the scene. Keep in mind........a lot of people who were first responders found themself trapped when the levy broke and the water rose in New Orleans.
People in the superdome now are being transferred to the Astrodome in Houston, 350 miles away, via bus, where their needs will be attended to. Many others are being taken to Georgia, etc. Helicopters have been air dropping food, water and supplies. The military is heavily involved, as are the Red Cross, Salvation Army, FEMA, National Guard, Coast Guard, and everyone that is able bodied and available. Five semis full of food, supplies, clothing, medicine,, water, and lots of other things have already left my area.....with thousands of dollars being sent from people and corporations in this area. In my small area alone there has already been $700,000.00's alone donated to the relief effort. All states are sending work crews in to work on infrastructure, and thousands of people are headed that way to do all they can do. Schoolchildren are even collecting money from their piggy banks for the relief fund and efforts.
100%....thanks for asking and for your genuine concern about your fellow human beings, regardless of their nationality, or leaders.
Why yes....yes I would kick your teeth in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
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Very good Peerzy, Americans live in America. Now, can you tell us who lives in Brazil?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
If Michael Moore had done a documentary on say, Eckard's, your statement would have read "Americans have looted stores and the Eckard's gun section has had all the weapons and ammo nicked. Way to go America." Recycled bullshit, is still bullshit kid.
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Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
What a post Peerzy. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
nm, board was being silly
nvm
I apologize, the way your post looked made it seem you were speaking to me. But when I quoted you, it became obvious you were speaking to peerzy. The lack of him adding anything more to his quote was playing with thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
The French :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
I didn't even watch all of BFC, i said Wal-Mart because the fact is, thats what the news had, it had footage of people in a Wal-Mart (Note: Not a Eckard's) nicking guns. So you're saying that because theres a film about Wal-Mart and guns we should refrain from using those two words in the same sentence, even if it's really whats happening? We must bend to truth now because you don't want two words that featured in a film together, a film which i saw about half of, then switched off cause it was shit?
@RF - I wasn't flaming or anything, it's just something like was flagged 4 years ago as a major threat and the American Government did fuck all about it.
@Busy - Cool, then you loot the Wal_Mart and take your gun count up the same level as your IQ count, a massive 12.
Nope, Bush didn't invest hurricanes (i doubt he can even spell it), but he could have done a hell of a lot more to stop the damage being so high. Did Bush invent Terrorism? Nope, could he have done more to stop September 11th? Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanky
Also my above post which was blank was supposed to be this one, but Firefox went all crazy and froze for a minute or two, not really sure what happened.
Did the news footage also show police officers removing guns and ammo from stores so they cannot be looted? No, I quess that flew under their radar. You mention all the looters, I'm amazed to find out all the world's looters are in America apparently, but you never mention all the people leaving their homes from across the country to come and aid others. I quess the news didn't show that part, or else you would have mentioned it since you repeat whatever the news says or shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
And what exactly would you do if you had warnings 4 years ago? Force all the people to move out of the area? Apparently you know a secret the rest of the world doesn't know about to stopping hurricanes. Mighty impressive knowledge you have there...
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Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
The News footage showed an Officer with a shotgun walking round town pointing it at people and telling them to get out of town and stop looting, which was a good thing, im not totally anti American.
Please quote me where i saw all the worlds looters are in America, or where i even implied it :blink:
I did not repeat everything that the news showed either, i simply selected a piece of news that i felt helped back up my point.
4 years ago, a hurricane attacking New O was the number 1 major risk of life to Americans, above terrorism, above earthquakes, above all of that. Later that year, the number 2 major risk of life to Americans happened. So what do you do? You cut as much funding as you possibly could from stopping and protecting from hurricanes and earthquakes.
Should we have forced all the people out of the area? No, you should have contined to fund and install protection instead of putting all the money into a war about WMD (Which were never found, ever.)
America new that the levees would not stand a level 5 hurricane, they were high enough, just not strong enough. So what happens when America see's a level 5 hurricane on the way? Shall we warn the people? Nah, lets keep it a secret and hope no one notices :pinch:
You act like you've never seen AntiAmericanPeerzy post before.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeavyMetalParkingLot
He hates America and Americans...if that puts this into perspective. His posts will point out the worst of America and it's inhabitants.
He is a troller and it's only entertaining if, when you post, it's like talking to a terrorist that you can never actually put your hands on. Mmmk?
That’s just plain ridiculous. So according to you we invade a country to steal their oil but we don’t keep it for ourselves we sell it. Now we have a national crisis at hand and we have no oil for ourselves even though we use more than anyone else in the world, but we have plenty to sell to everyone else. Sounds logical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rat Faced
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Originally Posted by Busyman
Im as anti American as you are a blind pro american.
It's your view, your welcome to it. In my eyes your wrong, your eyes im wrong. Personally i know America isn't as bad as my posts make out, but im sure you know that America isn't as good as you try to make it, you defend America just for the sake of arguements, the same as a lot of the time i agrue anti america.
Im sure if you could see America from my eyes and from where i live in the world you would be anti american, same as if iwas in your location and viewing things from your eyes and brought up like you i would be very pro american.
I don't dislike you, Busy (much) infact at times i enjoy your pro american view point.
Personally i agree to disagree, as much as im keen to know why america is so good im sure your wondering how i could find america so bad.
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Originally Posted by Peerzy
You gotta be shittin' me!!!! :lol: :lol:
Hmmm.
Mt. St. Helens is still emitting the occasional rumble; Bush had better pump big government bucks (taxpayer money, BTW) into emergency research and development of a giant cork, but evacuate the entire state of Washington indefinitely, just in case.
Another thing-
Every time I get pissy with certain people on this board, my posts disappear; a guy could get the idea that the imminence of the problem could be forecast as easily as a hurricane.
I wonder if I could interest Mr. Bush in heading the problem off at the pass with a massive infusion of funds and a pre-positioned archival back-up.
I just thought of something else for you, Peerzy-
If you believe Bush's policies have caused not only the hurricanes but tweaked them to especially deadly effect, then possibly you should acknowledge the power of a much Higher Power which, it is easily deduced, must be responsible for steering these storms on so unerring a path as to punish the citizens of the U.S. so unrelentingly for their hubris.
I have never said Bush caused the hurricane or tweaked it. I said he failed to act in preventing them from causing such massive damage and the high number of deaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by j2k4
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
And didn’t you say in my other thread (before I asked for it to be removed) that it was his policies that led to this?Quote:
The pollution America makes through buring F fuels is the cause of the storms, and is why they are getting worse and more frequent.
Of course. Blame Bush for a natural disaster. :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
His real name is Sir August de Wynter.
So Bush is America now :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
It's your story, you tell it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
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Originally Posted by j2k4
I did already, then Busyman & Hank tried to prove me wrong, shame there not too good at it, otherwise i would have been in deep shit :pinch:
Ok you little prick is this clear enough for you?
That’s your quote from This thread.Quote:
Bush said something like he wouldn't stop making so many green house gases
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Originally Posted by Peerzy
Criminetly, Peerzy. Self analysis. Took you long enough to get to this. :lol: :lol:
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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank
Moi, a little prick :ohmy:
Your right you got me, however Bush isn't the one making the green house gases, it's the chemicals he uses :rolleyes:
You are a shit reader. I never tried to prove you wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
You point out some shit in American news. Why would I try to prove you wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by AntiAmericanPeerzy
You are just a troller simple and plain.
Rodding or whateverthefuck is trolling.
Nope, see you Americans, American-ise everything. I saw it on British news, by British reporters, for the British watched, nothing American about my news thank you very much. I never mentioned once where i saw the news and by now even an American must have realised im not American myself. Mind you they do constantly raise the bar on stupidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
If im a toller with my anti American views, your a toller in the sense with your pro American views.Quote:
You are just a troller simple and plain.
I'm pretty sure he meant news about America not specifically American News programs.
How can you guys actually think this help can come any faster? But I am sure that if it did come faster, you would then be bitching about why we couldn't help others just as fast :rolleyes:
Nothing will satisfy people who think like you. It will always be something else that is just not quite right.
Keep in mind, I am against many things my country has done, but that does not mean everything we do is wrong or half assed.
Yes, America isn't all that bad and has done some great things over the years, i just find patriotic Americans like Busyman who seem to turn a blind eye to anything anti American rather silly. He attempts to paint a picture of a wonderful land of freedom, where millions of people can live. Instead it's a place where people live in fear because the Government and people have pissed off too many countries, invaded and attacked too many people and done too many silly and stupid actions over the last 6-7 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by tracydani
How anyone can justify the Iraq war is beyond me. WMD? What WMD? You never found any?
What if Iran & Pakistan tomorrow just decided to invade American? Send hundreds of thousands of troops to America and shoot anyone who stood in their way. America has WMD's, so if another country was to invade Amerca it would be the same as the Iraq war, eccept America really has WMD's and not Oil.
Im sure the first thing America would do if it was invaded would be to send off the biggest, baddest rocket they have aimed at the capital city of the invading country. Yet when Iraqi people and Bin Laden do the same (or turn objects such as planes) against America it's all:
"Oh My God, please God Save America the land of the free and right. God will have pitty on our souls, we don't deserve this, those stupid Arabs they have destroyed the American way of life."
That kinda bullshit.
Then comes the stupid Busy patriotic speech:
"By god, these Terrorists will not win! America will continue to fight for whats right, and we will not give in. America is Gods land, and we're not gonna let someone take this land from us. Lets gett'em boys!"
But like i said, not everything American is bad, Burger King's quite nice really :01:
Peerzy:
I grew up in a family with three sisters. We are very close now. But while growing up, we definitely did our share of fighting with each other. I still have scars, and I am sure they do too! :D
I guess I am trying to explain something on a very basic level to you.
There were many times my sisters did things I didn't like. Many times they did things I hated and detested. You can bet your bottom dollar that I had my eyes wide open when it came to my sisters, and they had theirs open with me.
Funny thing is.......we did all this fighting with each other but when one of us was attacked from someone outside the family, unfairly or not.........we could always count on each other's support and loyalty. It did not mean we couldn't see our sister's own actions might have not helped the situation, might even have brought the situation on themselves. We were family and the fact that we disagreed with what each other did sometimes did not change that.
This type of loyalty is not a blind loyalty. It is not a bad thing, it is actually to be commended.
I have to laugh at your comments about Busyman's blind eye to anything anti-American. Do you actually read his posts?
Many, many Americans are filled with conflict within these days. We don't all agree with each other, or our government. What country does?
You see, we are aware of many of our own faults and our own governments faults. We listen to advice from other people outside our country. We listen to their views, especially when they are helpful and constructive opinions.
I can only speak for myself here, but when all is said......when the day is done...........all is considered..........I am very proud to be American.
How did this thread turn in to an anti American bashing ? Seems like a chicken shit thing to kick soneone when their down. I'm not American either and have my own issues with the Bush adminitration , softwood duties being one .
I'm sure this disaster will keep us flaming long after its cleaned up tho. I could n't help but be moved while reading Bighanks posts. I wish the Canadians would get off their asses and help more too.
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Originally Posted by Everose
The British are different. Were not sheep. We don't all grab a giant American flag and 3 uzi's whenever we hear we invaded someone new. From what i've read of Busymans post's he hasn't posted anything negative about his governments actions with the Iraq war and what followed. He also for some reason needs 7 guns in his house (for protection of course)
So if Iran invaded America, because America has WMD's (the same reason you gave to invade Iraq) what would the American government do?
"Lets gett'em boys"
I see the EU is helping with the oil crisis caused by the storm .
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...7.0&refer=home
I seen this live on tV today and i found it at this site.
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/And...u-Katrina1.wmv
Cooper started the interview this way:
Landrieu put on a happy face and thanked all the wonderful politicians for showing their support. I mean WTF? Everyone is worried about their own asses and doing little if anything for the people on the ground.Quote:
Cooper: "Does the federal government bear any responsibility for what is happening, should they apologize for what is happening now?"
Are you that stupid? It's in American news. You are really shit at reading and raised the bar for stupidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
..and wtf are you talking about? I said nothing about hitting dinner bells. I said you are a troller. :huh:
You've obviously proven that you strive to have common sense when to everyone else it's simply....common.
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Originally Posted by Peerzy
Make no mistake. I am a patriot. However, you need to go back to skewul.
RIF