I'm sure your good mood will fade when you sober up and remember who you are. Sucks to be you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
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I'm sure your good mood will fade when you sober up and remember who you are. Sucks to be you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Sober up from what? I don't drink, my man :D
Anyway, I got some more important things to do than talk to a smelly lump of stale cheese :D
I'll bbl with some more interesting topics :D
Jonno :cool:
Alcoholism is a disease, denial is not the answer. Funny how you assume I meant drink when referring to sobering up. But I digress...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Have a pleasant evening, and be careful near heavy machinery. No, really.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sobering
Pray tell me what number 1 says dear twat boy :)
And yes I'm having a pleasant evening, safe in the knowledge I'm not a twat who went to university and all of a sudden thought he was better than everyone else :D
Is nice being me :D
Jonno :cool:
Why would a dictionary definition from a dubious site define what context I was using the word in? You do understand how language works? That words can carry more than one meaning, ffs I even informed you that I was using it in a different context. Getting me to read a dictionary entry won't ever change what I meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
There is no sudden realization that I'm a better person than attention whores like yourself, that's been something I've always known. Well, at least I've made you think about some of your posts recently (in as much as you are capable of coherent thought) and kept you confined to one thread.
Good luck job-hunting btw, I understand that working in a shop proved too difficult for you (can't imagine how all those teenagers/old dears do this obviously demanding job), hopefully you'll find something that you are capable of.
Well, off I go then. To collect my wages from my highly demanding retail job and then off to study at uni, how do I do it all?:rolleyes:
Handbags at dawn!!!
I love this place :)
Thats true, I did'nt post last night and fuck me what happend?.........1 or 2 posts per hour, funny that huh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Withcheese
Thank you, thats very kind of you, I'm sure I will find something I can do, maybe a paper round :)Quote:
Good luck job-hunting btw, I understand that working in a shop proved too difficult for you (can't imagine how all those teenagers/old dears do this obviously demanding job), hopefully you'll find something that you are capable of.
Or maybe I'll go back to manual labour..........Oh wait, should I give you a google link to that? I'm not sure if you'd know what that is being a pen pusher and all, hang on, I don't wanna confuse you....... Here you go that should help you understand, it's where you actually have to work, as oposed to getting your money tax free or living off the tax that others pay, you also may get your hands dirty so it's probably not for a soft handed lad like you, you might get blisters or a splinter :'( Stick to the paper stuff ;)
Yup, you have a good day, the sun is shinning here, it's 12pm and I'm only just up, had a good long nights sleep and I'm gonna sit about today relaxing and decide what I want to do in a little while.........enjoy your day of work and studying :)Quote:
Well, off I go then. To collect my wages from my highly demanding retail job and then off to study at uni, how do I do it all?:rolleyes:
Jonno :cool:
Erm, I do pay tax through my job. You know, the exact same type of job you found too difficult and had to quit. So really I should go into manual labour if anyone as I have a proven track record of being able to do even simple jobs whereas you balk at the pressure of one of the easiest jobs going round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
In fact, I would hazard to say that I have probably done more heavy labour jobs in my past work history than you given the fact that I would never quit a job because it was "too hard" or the boss was a big fat meany. Actually, come to think of it I'm probably more qualified to talk about heavy labour than you.
So you relax mate, you obviously need it what with being crap and all. Don't worry, my taxes will pay for your housing benefit and JSA if that paper round job doesn't pan out.
Ah good afternoon sir :)
You have more heavy labour hours than me huh? sorry mate picking up shit with a litter picker and carrying a new pad of paper to an office does'nt really count :rolleyes:
And you don't have to worry about jsa or anything, you obviously don't know much about employment law etc, you're not entitled to claim if you walk out ;) duh :rolleyes:
What kind of shop do you work in? what do you sell?........paper?.....pens?.....toilet tissue? :)
Jonno :cool:
Well, you can if you're clever enough which obviously excludes you. One of my "pen-pusher" jobs was working as an advisor to people having problems getting their JSA. I have, in the past, managed to get people their benefits despite quitting* or being fired. Sometimes it takes a little effort, so not for the work-shy like yourself who pretends he once worked in heavy labour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Didn't you used to work in a paper shop until the pressure got to you. What was the problem? Too much counting involved on the tills? Working out Best Before Dates gave you headaches?Quote:
What kind of shop do you work in? what do you sell?........paper?.....pens?.....toilet tissue? :)
Spar, btw.
*Hell, in fact I left my job at Fairey Industrial Ceramics** to go back to college and was able to claim.
** Heavy labour job btw. Very heavy.
There is too much Jebus pwnage in this thread for me to properly comprehend.
I am getting pwned:(Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Ok first if you're fired you ARE entitled to jsa, not if you walked out, and second if you helped someone get it after walking out of their own free will then you are just adding to the increasing cost of benefit spoungers, also that would be fraud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Withcheese
I simply wont claim it because I make my own way in this world, I don't want help from the goverment, that way I can stay proud that I look after myself :)
So in effect you help people scam money off the tax payer? bet you're popular amoungst the workers then.
Yeah thats right, cept it was'nt the counting that gave me headaches.......it was the mouldy cheese made me wanna puke.Quote:
Didn't you used to work in a paper shop until the pressure got to you. What was the problem? Too much counting involved on the tills? Working out Best Before Dates gave you headaches?
Also the money is a bit low for my liking, having now thought about it it's a childs wage really.
Ah the good old Spar shop, burst onto our roads and into our garages.Quote:
Spar, btw.
So you just put stuff on shelves and take money? yeah I thought about a job in a managed shop like that but I preffered one where I could decided what to price stuff at and make descisions that will make a higher profit etc :)
Spar is just a bit too Tescofied for my liking........heh you got one of those little red uniforms? :lol:
Jonno :cool:
Entirely. You'd have to be a mentalist to take a contrary view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Withcheese
Nah, I wanted to write Jebus pwnage of a two legged dog but somehow got distracted by Barbie rodding me in Sportsworld.
The git.
Manker please stay out of this thread, it's for stubbourne assholes only.
You are in teh wrong class of asshole to be in here with us shop/ex-shop wor.....loafers :01:
btw, rodded by a girl AND the village idiot in the same day? you's slipping mate :unsure:
Jonno :cool:
I'm going to reply to the cricket thread each time the roddage thread in SportsWorld is bumped.
If a person has been forced into a position where they have no choice to leave then I see no reason for them not to be allowed to claim benefits. In fact the JSA sees it pretty much this way as well. Unfortunately, with your narrow mindedness you only see things in black and white so are unable to comprehend that there are people who leave jobs for differing reasons. Remember, they're not all work shy like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
In fact, given what I've read about your situation (the countless threads that bore sane people rigid) I would be fairly confident of getting you onto benefits. And I bet you'd take it as well, this not getting help from the government is a sad macho thing insecure blokes say. You'd snap that money up in a heartbeat.
The scam thing is a bit low considering you claim to be a builder. The biggest scam/scum artists of all time.
It certainly is a child's wage. But is an ideal job for teenagers to get experience, for students to help them through uni and for older people to supplement the main income of the household. Exactly why were you working for pittance all this time?:unsure:Quote:
Yeah thats right, cept it was'nt the counting that gave me headaches.......it was the mouldy cheese made me wanna puke.
Also the money is a bit low for my liking, having now thought about it it's a childs wage really.
As you have aptly proven yourself incapable of working at even the basic level of retail I think it would be unwise for you to think about pursuing a career in shop management. I mean, your business sense isn't up to much if you can be ripped off so easily. Personally, I like the basic nature of my job because I have more pressing concerns with my studies.Quote:
Ah the good old Spar shop, burst onto our roads and into our garages.
So you just put stuff on shelves and take money? yeah I thought about a job in a managed shop like that but I preffered one where I could decided what to price stuff at and make descisions that will make a higher profit etc :)
Spar is just a bit too Tescofied for my liking........heh you got one of those little red uniforms? :lol:
I have a uniform but my boss is quite understanding about my need to not wear it.
It was beautiful in it's simplicity. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by manker
I could tell you were already a bit riled up, just me sprinkling in a national pride issue was like red rag to a bull... :)
Class! :D
I missed Jonno's on you, but his feeble attempt to rod me by calling me a girl was pathetic... ;)
There's always tomorrow :fist:
Ah so you did'nt read this bit of my post then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Withcheese
:rolleyes:Quote:
and second if you helped someone get it after walking out of their own free will
What you're talking about amounts to unfair dissmissal.
No actually I would'nt, not because I'm macho or any such crap, but because I don't want anyone to pay my bills and feed me, I'm independant.Quote:
In fact, given what I've read about your situation (the countless threads that bore sane people rigid) I would be fairly confident of getting you onto benefits. And I bet you'd take it as well, this not getting help from the government is a sad macho thing insecure blokes say. You'd snap that money up in a heartbeat.
If I had a family it might be different, but as I am I will look after myself :)
I also know I could fight for a claim, I also know I could look into unfair dissmissal, but I don't want to.
Ah I see, so you watch an awful lot of tv then.Quote:
The scam thing is a bit low considering you claim to be a builder. The biggest scam/scum artists of all time.
Sorry mate, I've never scammed anyone, I've always been honest and most of the time saved people money by telling them about jobs they do not need doing or can be fixed rather than replaced.
Try getting your facts right before making wild acusations ;)
I worked for a pittance because I enjoyed my job, I looked forward to going to work. To me if I enjoy the job I don't mind working for £6 per hour :)Quote:
It certainly is a child's wage. But is an ideal job for teenagers to get experience, for students to help them through uni and for older people to supplement the main income of the household. Exactly why were you working for pittance all this time?:unsure:
I prefer happiness over financial gain while possible.
Erm......did I say I was pursuing a career in management? what I was actually saying is the job I done was that of a manager, I left cos I fell out with my boss, and he fucked the place up, takings down by more than half compared to when me and another staff member were running it. no other reason.Quote:
As you have aptly proven yourself incapable of working at even the basic level of retail I think it would be unwise for you to think about pursuing a career in shop management. I mean, your business sense isn't up to much if you can be ripped off so easily. Personally, I like the basic nature of my job because I have more pressing concerns with my studies.
Awww you should wear it, you'd look cute in a little red pinny with a name tagQuote:
I have a uniform but my boss is quite understanding about my need to not wear it.
"Hello I'm Cheese and I'll be your checkout assistant today"
It's all to add that personal touch :)
Jonno :cool:
After having read that nonsense I can now safely say that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
- You know nothing of employment law. Which shouldn't trouble you too much with a life of unemployment beckoning. However you stunning lack of knowledge of the benefits system will lead to a life of sleeping rough, drinking white cider and smelling badly. So you've had some practise on the last two things, eh?
- You think being obtuse is a good discussion tactic.
- That you have trouble remembering your own lies. Suddenly you were the manager of this little shop you claim to have worked in? Come on, admit it, you're exaggerating your role aren't you? Yes, you are.
- You have a thing for men in uniforms.
I'm the non-executive manager of this forum.
So someone who walks out of their own free will is entitled to benefits?Quote:
- You know nothing of employment law. Which shouldn't trouble you too much with a life of unemployment beckoning.
I think I could prove you wrong there :)
I'll thank you to note I am a reletively normal shape :)Quote:
- You think being obtuse is a good discussion tactic.
Lets see, I used to program the tils, order the goods, negotiate deals with suppliers, work out hours/wages for staff, make paper bills for customers who have not paid and chase them up, organize the refit of the shop......no I don't think I'm exagerating at all actually :)Quote:
- That you have trouble remembering your own lies. Suddenly you were the manager of this little shop you claim to have worked in? Come on, admit it, you're exaggerating your role aren't you? Yes, you are.
Yes thats true :D especially white coats :shifty:Quote:
- You have a thing for men in uniforms.
Jonno :cool:
I single-handedly run my shop doing 26 hour shifts 8 times a week. I do the wages, the ordering, stock rotation, banking, security and make the pasties. All this and we don't have a kettle.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
I accrue one minute of holiday time for every decade I work and if I take time off sick I am put down (in an ol'yella type way). I have a name badge but no shirt so I have to pierce the pin through my chest.
I have claimed it in the past myself when I have left employment of my own free will to go to college. So come on prove me wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Real :lol: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Withcheese
Did you notice the three smug smilies just now, DanB would be turning in his grave if he was dead.
If I had a boss, which I do not, and he or she made me perform sexual favours on their mother before I got paid. Then I'd walk out of that job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Withcheese
This would be of my own free will, just as if I stayed at the job because I liked doing it.
Given the circumstances, should I deem that sexual favours to a miwltf was entirely unacceptable, then I would be entitled to benefit.
Someone prove me wrong.
If you had been hired as a gigolo to the manager's mother then maybe you'd be in trouble. You'd also be living in Holland, most likely the fictional depiction in Rob Scheider's European Gigolo.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Who said anything about giong to college? :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Withcheese
I said leaving of your own free will, not leaving to go to college.
:lol: Thats actually quite funny for a monkey :DQuote:
I single-handedly run my shop doing 26 hour shifts 8 times a week. I do the wages, the ordering, stock rotation, banking, security and make the pasties. All this and we don't have a kettle.
I accrue one minute of holiday time for every decade I work and if I take time off sick I am put down (in an ol'yella type way). I have a name badge but no shirt so I have to pierce the pin through my chest.
I'm impressed, no really I am.
I especially like the way you're now just avoiding questions and points to simply take teh piss, big congratulations to you :01:
Cheese ftw :01:
Jonno :cool:
I am glad we don't have universal healthcare.
If you are able bodied and don't want to work (or not at least are trying to get work), you should rot.
edit:thanks Jonno :ermm:
Yeah need another edit mate, cos the bit in brackets still does'nt work with that sentence.
I think what you mean is "those who wont work should rot. Those who are looking for work are different and ok"
Jonno :cool:
I left long before my college started. 9 months roughly. I just told the JSA I had decided to change my career prospects. Within weeks I was able to claim benefits. So there we have an example of someone leaving a job of their own free will and being able to claim benefits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Another example would be if an employer was asking you to do extra hours or less hours, you could leave then and be able to claim benefits. Known people who have done that, signed on until they get a new (and better) job.
Junno, I shoot down all your points with ease. You're just too obtuse to accept that, if you had made any valid points I would accept them. Unfortunately for you you have neither the intelligence nor the imagination to come up with anything other than intentionally misunderstanding my own posts.Quote:
I especially like the way you're now just avoiding questions and points to simply take teh piss, big congratulations to you :01:
Never argue with an idiot - they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. ;)
I don't understand :huh:
:lol: Oh man you're funny, and I already told you I'm a normalish shape :rolleyes:
And just cos you've proved you have scammed the system does'nt change the actual rule/law it states in the book.
Anyway, I'm kinda bored of you now, the novelty has worn off :(
Hopefully we'll do this again in another few months hey.
Until then Mr Cheese *bows cap*
Jonno :cool:
What imaginary book is this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
And how am I "scamming the system" when I went in there in all honesty and told them my plans? Methinks you don't understand the system at all, we have ample evidence elsewhere that you don't understand simple things like how holiday time is accrued or proper business arrangements for doing building work, how is this any different?
All in all, this comment just shows up your black and white view of the world and your lack of knowledge on the subject. The rules are a lot more complicated than merely "If you leave your job of your own free will you cannot claim benefits".Quote:
And just cos you've proved you have scammed the system does'nt change the actual rule/law it states in the book.
I'm quite glad you're chickening out of this debate because I really don't won't to be repeating myself and making you look any greater the fool.
I can concede that Junno has far more man hours of being an idiot than me. Shame the pay isn't so great though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarossa
You post like Yogi. :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon L. Obscene
Just without the hideous pictures of Yogi. That false teeth one...:sick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Chebus has brought the inner Yogi out of Jonno.
However, Jonno hasn't flounced yet.
Jonno > Yogi.
Or maybe:
Chebus' gitism without flowe > Chebus' gitism with flowe.
I'll actually semi conceed to the jsa argument.
It's likely you'll be turned down for full jsa......
But you can possibly claim a smaller amount on Hardship basis.Quote:
Hardship provision
You may be able to get a reduced amount of JSA under the hardship provision. You can do this if your JSA cannot be paid under the normal rules for any of the following reasons:
* you are not available for work
* you are not actively seeking work
* you do not have a Jobseeker's Agreement
* there is a doubt about whether any of these apply to you
* you unreasonably make yourself unemployed. For example, you leave your job voluntarily without good reason, you lose a job because of misconduct or you turn down a job offer
Jonno :cool: