The Crime of "Unauthorized Reproduction"

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Originally Posted by peat moss

To be honest I don't understand American politics either but If had to vote between
j2k4 (Conservative ) Busyman (Republican ) or Everyrose (Democrat) I'd be lost !



Did I get that half right ? :)

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Nope.

j2 is conservative and Republican (they go hand in hand plus conservative is not a party).

Evey is Democrat with Republican leanings.

I am in neither party.

I am

for welfare reform
anti-Iraq War
Pro-choice
against gay marriage (for my own selfish reasons)
for small government
for moment of silence in schools (if you don't want to pray, STFU and let others that do....pray)
against ID and creationism is science class
against the Patriot Act
pro-gun control reform but against banning them
against private use eminent domain
extremely tightening our borders
against the Medicare Advantage/Prescription Drug Benefit

and so on..........

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Originally Posted by peat moss

To be honest I don't understand American politics either but If had to vote between
j2k4 (Conservative ) Busyman (Republican ) or Everyrose (Democrat) I'd be lost !



Did I get that half right ? :)

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No.

j2k4-Conservative

Ruthie/Scroff-Liberal

EVERYONE ELSE-Liberal, but pretending to be Independent, with a whatever's convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy, so that they are invulnerable to debate.

I'm socialist, how does that fit into your groups.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by peat moss

To be honest I don't understand American politics either but If had to vote between
j2k4 (Conservative ) Busyman (Republican ) or Everyrose (Democrat) I'd be lost !



Did I get that half right ? :)

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No.

j2k4-Conservative

Ruthie/Scroff-Liberal

EVERYONE ELSE-Liberal, but pretending to be Independent, with a whatever's convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy, so that they are invulnerable to debate.

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Most everyone else on here is liberal.
There are more cons to pick out of this liberal pot though:

B.Helto
spinningfreemanny
BigBank Hank (interesting that's the name of a member from rap group Sugarhill Gang)
TROUBLEMAKER
Voetsek
Skizo (a Texan)

My views are on the table and have been. I have debated at length many times alone and outnumbered in my viewpoint. Some viewpoints by conservatives are not even conservative viewpoints at all.

The Iraq War, for instance, is just about a conservative making a decision and many conservative following along like sheep. It was not a conservative ideal unless one considers that the rationale related some weird revenge for Bush Sr.....even then that's madness talk. Still pretty much the cons followed along and everyone else didn't.

My views are no where near a "convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy," Not by a long shot.

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Originally Posted by JPaul

I'm socialist, how does that fit into your groups.

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I am not capable of catagorizing you, JP.

You are beyond that. :)

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by j2k4

No.

j2k4-Conservative

Ruthie/Scroff-Liberal

EVERYONE ELSE-Liberal, but pretending to be Independent, with a whatever's convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy, so that they are invulnerable to debate.

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Most everyone else on here is liberal.
There are more cons to pick out of this liberal pot though:

B.Helto
spinningfreemanny
BigBank Hank (interesting that's the name of a member from rap group Sugarhill Gang)
TROUBLEMAKER
Voetsek
Skizo (a Texan)

Okay.

Perhaps you could summon them to the fray; they are not in evidence just now..

My views are on the table and have been. I have debated at length many times alone and outnumbered in my viewpoint. Some viewpoints by conservatives are not even conservative viewpoints at all.

One would assume "on the table"means that your views are somewhat maleable.

You are as rigid as anyone here.

That last makes no sense, at least as written.

The Iraq War, for instance, is just about a conservative making a decision and many conservative following along like sheep. It was not a conservative ideal unless one considers that the rationale related some weird revenge for Bush Sr.....even then that's madness talk. Still pretty much the cons followed along and everyone else didn't.

Okay.

When the troops finally come home, if Iraq has a Democratic Government in place, and is fending for itself. will it have been worth it?

My views are no where near a "convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy," Not by a long shot.

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Mr. Unpredictable...he's dark, mysterious, and unfathomable...an enigma.

Hmmm.

Here's an idea-

Start a new political party!

You have a ready-made constituency, looking for a home...

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Most everyone else on here is liberal.
There are more cons to pick out of this liberal pot though:

B.Helto
spinningfreemanny
BigBank Hank (interesting that's the name of a member from rap group Sugarhill Gang)
TROUBLEMAKER
Voetsek
Skizo (a Texan)

Okay.

Perhaps you could summon them to the fray; they are not in evidence just now..

You lost me.

My views are on the table and have been. I have debated at length many times alone and outnumbered in my viewpoint. Some viewpoints by conservatives are not even conservative viewpoints at all.

One would assume "on the table"means that your views are somewhat maleable.

You are as rigid as anyone here.

That last makes no sense, at least as written.

Bad choice of words on my part. My views are out in the open. If they are rigid where do you get "convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy"? I have nevvvver stayed on the fence.

The Iraq War, for instance, is just about a conservative making a decision and many conservative following along like sheep. It was not a conservative ideal unless one considers that the rationale related some weird revenge for Bush Sr.....even then that's madness talk. Still pretty much the cons followed along and everyone else didn't.

Okay.

When the troops finally come home, if Iraq has a Democratic Government in place, and is fending for itself. will it have been worth it?

No. If you believe that then the same crap is bound to be repeated 'cause we felt like it. Furthermore, I'd like to hear cons stop the bullshit "we were there to fight for democracy" crap. Say Bush fucked up and that we simply can't leave. Be humble. You'd have more respect that way. Otherwise you are bullshitting liars.

My views are no where near a "convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy," Not by a long shot.

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Mr. Unpredictable...he's dark, mysterious, and unfathomable...an enigma.

Hmmm.

Here's an idea-

Start a new political party!

You have a ready-made constituency, looking for a home...

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That's the thing. I ain't unpredictable. My views are out there and you are so used to pigeon-holing yourself and others that it's like some new train of thought you can't grasp.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

Okay.

When the troops finally come home, if Iraq has a Democratic Government in place, and is fending for itself. will it have been worth it?

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Presumably that day will coincide with the Second Coming.
At which time I will convert and approve of Intelligent Design.

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by j2k4

Okay.

When the troops finally come home, if Iraq has a Democratic Government in place, and is fending for itself. will it have been worth it?

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Presumably that day will coincide with the Second Coming.
At which time I will convert and approve of Intelligent Design.

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....even then, it shouldn't be in science class. :dry:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by j2k4

Mr. Unpredictable...

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That's the thing. I ain't unpredictable. My views are out there and you are so used to pigeon-holing yourself and others that it's like some new train of thought you can't grasp.

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You're not unpredictable?

Oh.

Well then check that "new train of thought" spiel, 'cuz with trains, the cars (ideas?) are supposed to be connected.

Apart from that, the rest was not written exclusively for you, and I didn't mean for you to infer I'd paint you a fence-sitter.

I'll assume that mistake, because I've never known you to mis-perceive anything.

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by j2k4

Okay.

When the troops finally come home, if Iraq has a Democratic Government in place, and is fending for itself. will it have been worth it?

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Presumably that day will coincide with the Second Coming.
At which time I will convert and approve of Intelligent Design.

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I can understand your surety that it won't happen, as it underpins your argument, but if it does happen, what will you have to say then?

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by clocker

Presumably that day will coincide with the Second Coming.
At which time I will convert and approve of Intelligent Design.

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I can understand your surety that it won't happen, as it underpins your argument, but if it does happen, what will you have to say then?

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What does that have to do with science class?

When the Second Coming happens, who would worry about something that they can't understand like an unmeasurable miracle? :blink:

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by Busyman

That's the thing. I ain't unpredictable. My views are out there and you are so used to pigeon-holing yourself and others that it's like some new train of thought you can't grasp.

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You're not unpredictable?

Oh.

Well then check that "new train of thought" spiel, 'cuz with trains, the cars (ideas?) are supposed to be connected.

Apart from that, the rest was not written exclusively for you, and I didn't mean for you to infer I'd paint you a fence-sitter.

I'll assume that mistake, because I've never known you to mis-perceive anything.

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Well you said everyone else....

I don't get the trains and cars connection, unless you mean my ideas paint me a Democrat.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

I can understand your surety that it won't happen, as it underpins your argument, but if it does happen, what will you have to say then?

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Praise Allah.

Evey is Democrat with Republican leanings.

I am in neither party.




Actually, Busy, I registered to vote as a Republican at the age of 18. Other than that, I have never felt the need to affiliate with either party, nor do I think of myself as 'in' either party. Since the fences in my area of the country are mostly barbed-wire fences, it is not an easy place to sit. But even though it is awfully hard on my arse sitting up here........I can't see either political party worth jumping off for. :D

I'm a dirty hippie pinko commie. How's that work out for you? ;)

A "whatever's convenient, grab-bag, stay out of the corner, stay on the fence strategy" is not fun at all. ;) However, I tend to stay out of debate, not by choice, but because by the time I actually read your guys' posts, the thread has generally moved on or been derailed. Revisiting the third post in a six page thread (for instance) would be highly disruptive to the feel of the thread. On others, (such as that Tom Delay thread) I've really nothing to contribute. I don't really know much in detail on your congressmen and senators and so forth.

:shuriken:

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Originally Posted by Everose

Evey is Democrat with Republican leanings.

I am in neither party.

Tbh, I figured as much.

Actually, Busy, I registered to vote as a Republican at the age of 18.

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I'm not surprised at all.

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by j2k4

I can understand your surety that it won't happen, as it underpins your argument, but if it does happen, what will you have to say then?

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Praise Allah.

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by j2k4

I can understand your surety that it won't happen, as it underpins your argument, but if it does happen, what will you have to say then?

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What does that have to do with science class?

When the Second Coming happens, who would worry about something that they can't understand like an unmeasurable miracle? :blink:

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Have you assumed responsibility for Clocker's posting, or seized it by force?

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by j2k4

I can understand your surety that it won't happen, as it underpins your argument, but if it does happen, what will you have to say then?

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What does that have to do with science class?

When the Second Coming happens, who would worry about something that they can't understand like an unmeasurable miracle? :blink:

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What does science class have to do with it?

Those responsible for establishing the legal argument against I.D. in schools don't want it anywhere about, science class or no.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by peat moss

To be honest I don't understand American politics either but If had to vote between
j2k4 (Conservative ) Busyman (Republican ) or Everyrose (Democrat) I'd be lost !



Did I get that half right ? :)

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Nope.

j2 is conservative and Republican (they go hand in hand plus conservative is not a party).

Evey is Democrat with Republican leanings.

I am in neither party.

I am

for welfare reform
anti-Iraq War
Pro-choice
against gay marriage (for my own selfish reasons)
for small government
for moment of silence in schools (if you don't want to pray, STFU and let others that do....pray)
against ID and creationism is science class
against the Patriot Act
pro-gun control reform but against banning them
against private use eminent domain
extremely tightening our borders
against the Medicare Advantage/Prescription Drug Benefit

and so on..........

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I recall that recently, in another thread, you were on about not enough funding for D.C. schools.

Do you actually believe this is needed?

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by Busyman

What does that have to do with science class?

When the Second Coming happens, who would worry about something that they can't understand like an unmeasurable miracle? :blink:

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Have you assumed responsibility for Clocker's posting, or seized it by force?

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PM him then. :O

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by Busyman

What does that have to do with science class?

When the Second Coming happens, who would worry about something that they can't understand like an unmeasurable miracle? :blink:

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What does science class have to do with it?

Those responsible for establishing the legal argument against I.D. in schools don't want it anywhere about, science class or no.

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Well....your side just sounds stupid trying to put it in science class.

Start yours boats in the water and not on the street.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Nope.

j2 is conservative and Republican (they go hand in hand plus conservative is not a party).

Evey is Democrat with Republican leanings.

I am in neither party.

I am

for welfare reform
anti-Iraq War
Pro-choice
against gay marriage (for my own selfish reasons)
for small government
for moment of silence in schools (if you don't want to pray, STFU and let others that do....pray)
against ID and creationism is science class
against the Patriot Act
pro-gun control reform but against banning them
against private use eminent domain
extremely tightening our borders
against the Medicare Advantage/Prescription Drug Benefit

and so on..........

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I recall that recently, in another thread, you were on about not enough funding for D.C. schools.

Do you actually believe this is needed?

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RIF

It was "we found funding for a baseball stadium but none for D.C. schools".

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by j2k4

Have you assumed responsibility for Clocker's posting, or seized it by force?

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PM him then. :O

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Why?

Am I not entitled to query him in the open?

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by j2k4

What does science class have to do with it?

Those responsible for establishing the legal argument against I.D. in schools don't want it anywhere about, science class or no.

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Well....your side just sounds stupid trying to put it in science class.

By "my" side, I assume you mean me and the rest of the fanatical fundamentalist Christian extreme right-wingers?

Start yours boats in the water and not on the street.

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I don't even know a liberal that dumb, Busyman.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by j2k4

I recall that recently, in another thread, you were on about not enough funding for D.C. schools.

Do you actually believe this is needed?

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RIF

It was "we found funding for a baseball stadium but none for D.C. schools".

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I agree about the stadium, but I must say it would still be smarter money than more funding for D.C. schools...

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Originally Posted by Virtualbody1234

Wow! And I thought the topic was going to be something about the unauthourized reproduction of data.

The government is just going too far.

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Haha. That is exactly what I was thinking.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by Busyman

RIF

It was "we found funding for a baseball stadium but none for D.C. schools".

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I agree about the stadium, but I must say it would still be smarter money than more funding for D.C. schools...

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...then you missed the point.

The money was found yet before they didn't have it.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Well....your side just sounds stupid trying to put it in science class.

By "my" side, I assume you mean me and the rest of the fanatical fundamentalist Christian extreme right-wingers?

Start yours boats in the water and not on the street.

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I don't even know a liberal that dumb, Busyman.

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....but you know some Republicans that dumb.....

I saw one of their yachts trying to make out of a driveway.