A question for the Americans

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

More gun laws wouldn’t solve anything. What needs to happen is better enforcement of the laws that are already in place that no one pays attention to. If no one pays attention to the laws that we already have in place what good would creating more laws do, nothing.

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Okaaayyyyy. Maybe I think we need more gun laws 'cause the ones we have aren't enforced. I've that same stuff before.

Whateverthefuck...it needs to be fixed. Actually scratch that...there needs to be oversight on every fucking gun sold here. Fuck this "no background check" crap at gun shows. I'm tire of hearing some fuck job bought a gun and wasn't supposed to be able to have one in the first place.

Parents who don't lock their shit up need mucho jail time. How the fuck does a kid accidentely shoot his brother in the neck and they both are in single digit ages.

These guns aren't even burners ffs. The school shootings weren't burners but registered guns of fucking parents not paying attention to whaterthefuck.

I don't agree with banning guns but what the fuck is the penalty for nonenforcement?

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Originally Posted by lynx

Rose, the 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts were brought in after the shootings in Hungerford in 1987 where 14 adults were killed by Michael Ryan, and in particular Dunblane in 1996 where 16 children and one teacher died at the hands of Thomas Hamilton.

Both men held weapons legally. However, both men were subsequently shown to be mentally unstable, and if laid down procedures had been properly followed neither would have been allowed by law to keep weapons.

The amendments to the Firearms Acts were a kneejerk reaction by the current government which has done absolutely nothing to prevent the criminal use of firearms, despite this being the main thrust of their proposed aims.

I should point out that both men would have been perfectly entitled to possess firearms in most states in the US.

Edit: prior to 1997 it was possible to possess certain firearms but was supposed to be strictly controlled by license, controlled and inspected by the local police authority. Where I live, these two people would certainly not have held weapons. A police officer who I know was just as rigorously examined as any other member of the public. Clearly, some districts were not as vigilant as they should have been.

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That last sounds like Hank's "enforce the laws already on the books."

The amendments sound like Hank's unneeded laws.

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Originally Posted by lynx

Rose, the 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts were brought in after the shootings in Hungerford in 1987 where 14 adults were killed by Michael Ryan, and in particular Dunblane in 1996 where 16 children and one teacher died at the hands of Thomas Hamilton.

Both men held weapons legally. However, both men were subsequently shown to be mentally unstable, and if laid down procedures had been properly followed neither would have been allowed by law to keep weapons.

The amendments to the Firearms Acts were a kneejerk reaction by the current government which has done absolutely nothing to prevent the criminal use of firearms, despite this being the main thrust of their proposed aims.

I should point out that both men would be perfectly entitled to possess firearms in most states in the US.

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Thank you Lynx. I wasn't aware that it was these tragedies that led to these amendments.

Sad to say I have often wondered if firearms were outlawed in the states if it wouldn't be wise to hide one to protect oneself from the ones that would keep theirs to use theirs criminally. Of course, that would defeat the purpose of the law.

Mental illness can happen to anyone at anytime. And the bad thing is we don't seem to always get a good diagnosis until after there has been such a tragedy. And that is also a tragedy in itself.

After I read your edit, Lynx, I will have to say.......there have been a few law enforcement men I have known who I would just as soon didn't have access to guns. :D

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Originally Posted by Everose

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Originally Posted by lynx

Rose, the 1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts were brought in after the shootings in Hungerford in 1987 where 14 adults were killed by Michael Ryan, and in particular Dunblane in 1996 where 16 children and one teacher died at the hands of Thomas Hamilton.

Both men held weapons legally. However, both men were subsequently shown to be mentally unstable, and if laid down procedures had been properly followed neither would have been allowed by law to keep weapons.

The amendments to the Firearms Acts were a kneejerk reaction by the current government which has done absolutely nothing to prevent the criminal use of firearms, despite this being the main thrust of their proposed aims.

I should point out that both men would be perfectly entitled to possess firearms in most states in the US.

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Thank you Lynx. I wasn't aware that it was these tragedies that led to these amendments.

Sad to say I have often wondered if firearms were outlawed in the states if it wouldn't be wise to hide one to protect oneself from the ones that would keep theirs to use theirs criminally. Of course, that would defeat the purpose of the law.

Mental illness can happen to anyone at anytime. And the bad thing is we don't seem to always get a good diagnosis until after there has been such a tragedy. And that is also a tragedy in itself.

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The problem is people blame guns. Mental illness hits someone else and he murders 13 at a hospital by injecting bodily harm.

If it ain't one thing, it's another.

Tbh, if guns were outlawed here, I'd have a burner or two tucked away for when and if I needed it. It'd be damn hard to practice my shooting though.:unsure: I know a number of people that had it not been for a gun, they'd be dead. One in particular, was attacked in his home by a man with a knife and was stabbed in his stomach and thigh but was able to get to his gun and shot the attacker. Ironically, the attacker didn't die but I don't remember where the attacker was shot.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

The problem is people blame guns. Mental illness hits someone else and he murders 13 at a hospital by injecting bodily harm.

If it ain't one thing, it's another.

Tbh, if guns were outlawed here, I'd have a burner or two tucked away for when and if I needed it. It'd be damn hard to practice my shooting though.:unsure: I know a number of people that had it not been for a gun, they'd be dead. One in particular, was attacked in his home by a man with a knife and was stabbed in his stomach and thigh but was able to get to his gun and shot the attacker. Ironically, the attacker didn't die but I don't remember where the attacker was shot.

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:lol: You have hit the nail on the head about tucking away a gun, Busy. I had just wondered that if I did tuck a gun away at last minute, how would I learn to shoot it, and therefore, would it do me any good? Although I think I could figure out how to hold it and give a calm, but determined mean look at someone so they would at least think I knew my business!!!!

Well, what the hell. I will be dead before I decide whether to learn to shoot a gun or not. :D

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Originally Posted by Everose

BigBank_Hank.....I keep looking at your picture of crawfish. :blink: Do you let people come to your parties and just drink beer and dance? :D

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Absolutely, but you don’t know what you’re missing.

I forgot to mention the part where you break the crawfish in half and suck the head because that’s where the most flavorful part is.

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

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Originally Posted by Everose

BigBank_Hank.....I keep looking at your picture of crawfish. :blink: Do you let people come to your parties and just drink beer and dance? :D

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Absolutely, but you don’t know what you’re missing.
suck the head because that’s where the most flavorful part is.

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:sick:

Well thanks again for the added info,my boy took his project in and got some excellent comments on the variety of stuff,its an ongoing thing so I'll print the piccys up and send him in with the pro's and con's of guns.
What are the statistics for Gunshops being robbed?
One of the main rules over here in the UK for gun ownership is you must have a gun safe,which must be fixed to a firm point,where the weapons are then kept when not being used or cleaned,so no hiding them under your pillow or anywhere little hands could get them.

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

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Originally Posted by Everose

BigBank_Hank.....I keep looking at your picture of crawfish. :blink: Do you let people come to your parties and just drink beer and dance? :D

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Absolutely, but you don’t know what you’re missing.

I forgot to mention the part where you break the crawfish in half and suck the head because that’s where the most flavorful part is.

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I know they must be good, surely, because people continue to eat them. What it boils down to is I just.......well, I don't have to at this point so I won't.:D Do you have Rocky Mountain Oysters down there? I won't eat them either. ;)

Gripper, I cannot answer your questions,, but I am sure someone knows those rules. I do know responsible gun owners keep their guns unloaded and locked up in a cabinet. I have never been in a gun shop, not sure there is one like Vid showed a picture of in my area.

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

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Originally Posted by Everose

BigBank_Hank.....I keep looking at your picture of crawfish. :blink: Do you let people come to your parties and just drink beer and dance? :D

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Absolutely, but you don’t know what you’re missing.

I forgot to mention the part where you break the crawfish in half and suck the head because that’s where the most flavorful part is.

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The crawfish are cooked,so I imagine they're like big prawns?
I'd love to try them,sounds great.

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Originally Posted by gripper103.2

One of the main rules over here in the UK for gun ownership is you must have a gun safe,which must be fixed to a firm point,where the weapons are then kept when not being used or cleaned,so no hiding them under your pillow or anywhere little hands could get them.

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See, we don't have that here. I do think you'll get in trouble though if your 4 year-old shoots herself but there's no law mandating "fixed to a firm point". (if there is, as Hank says, there's no enforcement)

Mine are well hidden and have gun locks on all of them. A person would be hard pressed to find them and if they do, they can't use it.

If kids get their hands on a parents gun because of negligence of the parent, the parent should be open to criminal and civil law consequences.

Thats good,what is a "gun lock".
I know people Knock you for having "x" amount of guns,but if the laws here,were the same as in the states,then I would own a gun,maybe several.
I have had some of the best training in the world,but even the best trained have "accidents",seeing with your own eyes the results of a shooting is enough to make any sane human think twice.

I think it might be a good idea to mention that there is a very heavy Spanish/Mexican/Latino influence throughout the US, even in the east, since Latinos are the largest minority. There are many spanish words used in American English that everyone commonly understands, but are really Spanish words.

Thats good orcutt,do you mean things like, mi casa su casa,hasta la vista,gracias.
Could you do me some translations ?
I think mi casa,su casa is my house is your house
hasta la vista=???
gracias=thankyou

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Originally Posted by orcutt989

I think it might be a good idea to mention that there is a very heavy Spanish/Mexican/Latino influence throughout the US, even in the east, since Latinos are the largest minority. There are many spanish words used in American English that everyone commonly understands, but are really Spanish words.

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I don't follow.

1. English has a lot of influences from many languages...German, French, etc. I never heard much Spanish influence though.

2. Latinos just became the largest minority a small time ago.

3. Latino influences are small because it's more closed off due to many immigrants not speaking English.

@gripper - We don't use gracias as a normal word unless perhaps speaking to a Hispanic. Hasta la vista was due to Terminator 2 and is not used normally. It's joking around like when we use the same in Italian.

De nada:)

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Originally Posted by gripper103.2

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Originally Posted by BigBank_Hank

Absolutely, but you don’t know what you’re missing.

I forgot to mention the part where you break the crawfish in half and suck the head because that’s where the most flavorful part is.

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The crawfish are cooked,so I imagine they're like big prawns?
I'd love to try them,sounds great.

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When you buy the crawfish to boil they have to be alive when you boil them. It really doesn’t take all that long to boil depending on how many pounds you plan on boiling. Usually when someone asks how long does it take I usually tell him or her about a 6 pack :D We usually have a lot of people over so by the time you’re finished a 6 pack of beer its usually done.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

3. Latino influences are small because it's more closed off due to many immigrants not speaking English.

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You need to get outside the Beltway more often.
Latin/Hispanic (are these terms interchangable?) influence is huge and growing fast.
-I just got an email from Comcast announcing a new, all-Spanish edition of their webportal...
-In the past year three check cashing businesses have opened in a five block stretch of Broadway. They all advertise money transfers to Mexico...apparently immigrants don't have access to real banks and like to send money home.

You can't drive around Denver and hear all the mariachi music blaring and conclude that "Latino influence" is small...

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by Busyman

3. Latino influences are small because it's more closed off due to many immigrants not speaking English.

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You need to get outside the Beltway more often.
Latin/Hispanic (are these terms interchangable?) influence is huge and growing fast.
-I just got an email from Comcast announcing a new, all-Spanish edition of their webportal...
-In the past year three check cashing businesses have opened in a five block stretch of Broadway. They all advertise money transfers to Mexico...apparently immigrants don't have access to real banks and like to send money home.

You can't drive around Denver and hear all the mariachi music blaring and conclude that "Latino influence" is small...

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Too true.

Immigration is not much in evidence where I live; I think it's a climate/distance thing.

I know precisely one Hispanic person and he is not an immigrant.

The other day I bought an installation kit for my new dishwasher (non-Hispanic, Maytag brand); that had no English instructions, only Spanish.

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Originally Posted by j2k4

The other day I bought an installation kit for my new dishwasher (non-Hispanic, Maytag brand); that had no English instructions, only Spanish.

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your supplier must be stocking from cheaper outside sources

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Originally Posted by vidcc

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Originally Posted by j2k4

The other day I bought an installation kit for my new dishwasher (non-Hispanic, Maytag brand); that had no English instructions, only Spanish.

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your supplier must be stocking from cheaper outside sources

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Menard's.

I didn't look for a C.O.O., and don't care, anyway-just thought it was curious.

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Originally Posted by clocker

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Originally Posted by Busyman

3. Latino influences are small because it's more closed off due to many immigrants not speaking English.

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You need to get outside the Beltway more often.
Latin/Hispanic (are these terms interchangable?) influence is huge and growing fast.
-I just got an email from Comcast announcing a new, all-Spanish edition of their webportal...
-In the past year three check cashing businesses have opened in a five block stretch of Broadway. They all advertise money transfers to Mexico...apparently immigrants don't have access to real banks and like to send money home.

You can't drive around Denver and hear all the mariachi music blaring and conclude that "Latino influence" is small...

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Oh gawd...

Dude I was on this forum talking about the same thing (Hispanic influence on the market), so you aren't telling me something new.

We have Hispanic dominated areas like Langley Park, Spanish packages on digitial cable, certain links in restaurant chains that only have Spanish folk, blahblahblah..... Oh and that's all inside the Beltway....I made complaints about all of them learning the language ffs.

However.....with all the catering to that demographic by market forces, how many of it has jumped over culture boundaries? :ermm:

Example: Black American influence is much larger yet we are a smaller minority.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Black American influence is much larger yet we are a smaller minority.

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Do you think that your greater "time-in-residence" has had anything at all to do with it?

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Originally Posted by j2k4

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Black American influence is much larger yet we are a smaller minority.

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Do you think that your greater "time-in-residence" has had anything at all to do with it?

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Absolutely. Also knowing fucking English helped out alot.

In Virginia, some are pushing for tax-payer funded day laborer centers...but I've said that before.....

I take it that would be where immigrant labourers turn up for casual work

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Originally Posted by gripper103.2

I take it that would be where immigrant labourers turn up for casual work

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Uh-huh.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Example: Black American influence is much larger yet we are a smaller minority.

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I think Black America puts up a bigger "bitch" then the Spanish/Latin Americans.

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Originally Posted by JunkBarMan

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Example: Black American influence is much larger yet we are a smaller minority.

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I think Black America puts up a bigger "bitch" then the Spanish/Latin Americans.

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Explain....