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Originally Posted by Blythorama

Man-on-man action is hot, precisely because it's more taboo than girl-on-girl. Us lasses rarely get to see you lot getting it on.

Why is this, seriously? Why is it a socially acceptable turn-on for both sexes to watch lass-on-lass but not man-on-man? Is it a threat to male sexuality to watch it? If so, why is it not a threat to ours to watch lesbo-action? Or are all women percieved as "being a little bit gay really"?

Just curious really.

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It's quite easy....female are halfway gay already.

You complement on each others butt, help each other get dressed and hug each other all close like.

Further from that, it is socially acceptable 'cause women getting it on just look like sexy women. Men look like bitches.

I used to date a gay female and she was just as feminine as a straight woman. Sadly I couldn't get a threesome.:dry:

She also told me that gay women, even the butchiest ones, sometimes want dick.

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Originally Posted by Guillaume

Dunno why.

As for gay pron, the "ouch-factor" turns me off, is all.

The same reason I don't watch or participate in heterosexual bumming or S & M stuff.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

It's quite easy....female are halfway gay already.

You complement on each others butt, help each other get dressed and hug each other all close like.

Further from that, it is socially acceptable 'cause women getting it on just look like sexy women. Men look like bitches.

I used to date a gay female and she was just as feminine as a straight woman. Sadly I couldn't get a threesome.:dry:

She also told me that gay women, even the butchiest ones, sometimes want dick.

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/me dons flame-proof suit.

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Originally Posted by Blyth

Man-on-man action is hot, precisely because it's more taboo than girl-on-girl. Us lasses rarely get to see you lot getting it on.

Why is this, seriously? Why is it a socially acceptable turn-on for both sexes to watch lass-on-lass but not man-on-man? Is it a threat to male sexuality to watch it? If so, why is it not a threat to ours to watch lesbo-action? Or are all women percieved as "being a little bit gay really"?

Just curious really.

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I really don't know about socially acceptable. I'm only talking from my perspective and what I'd like and what I wouldn't like.

I definitely don't like the thought of having anything up my arse and don't want to watch another bloke getting anything up his. Conversely, most ladies love getting munched on so don't mind seeing a lesbian sixty-nine.

Maybe that's it :unsure:

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Originally Posted by Blyth

Man-on-man action is hot, precisely because it's more taboo than girl-on-girl. Us lasses rarely get to see you lot getting it on.

Why is this, seriously? Why is it a socially acceptable turn-on for both sexes to watch lass-on-lass but not man-on-man? Is it a threat to male sexuality to watch it? If so, why is it not a threat to ours to watch lesbo-action? Or are all women percieved as "being a little bit gay really"?

Just curious really.

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I really don't know about socially acceptable. I'm only talking from my perspective and what I'd like and what I wouldn't like.

I definitely don't like the thought of having anything up my arse and don't want to watch another bloke getting anything up his. Conversely, most ladies love getting munched on so don't mind seeing a lesbian sixty-nine.

Maybe that's it :unsure:

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But by your logic, you wouldn't mind seeing a bloke giving another a blowjob for you enjoy them yourself?

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Originally Posted by manker

I really don't know about socially acceptable. I'm only talking from my perspective and what I'd like and what I wouldn't like.

I definitely don't like the thought of having anything up my arse and don't want to watch another bloke getting anything up his. Conversely, most ladies love getting munched on so don't mind seeing a lesbian sixty-nine.

Maybe that's it :unsure:

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But by your logic, you wouldn't mind seeing a bloke giving another a blowjob for you enjoy them yourself?

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Exactly. From your comments it has something to do with penetration I feel. Heterosexual men don't get penetrated or "taken" and percieve the act of being "taken" to be an act of weakness maybe? I dunno. Just seems like double standards.

I think the concept of most women being half way gay, busy, is a male fantasy rather than a female reality. There is nothing sexual about hugging another woman, we are more comfortable with physical expression than men. We don't think, "oh, can't hug Vanessa for too long, she'll think I'm gay", whereas there is always an element of that when men express their emotion physically. Unless sports are involved.

FYI, Many gay men don't practice buggery.

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Originally Posted by Proper Bo

But by your logic, you wouldn't mind seeing a bloke giving another a blowjob for you enjoy them yourself?

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Exactly. From your comments it has something to do with penetration I feel. Heterosexual men don't get penetrated or "taken" and percieve the act of being "taken" to be an act of weakness maybe? I dunno. Just seems like double standards.

I think the concept of most women being half way gay, busy, is a male fantasy rather than a female reality. There is nothing sexual about hugging another woman, we are more comfortable with physical expression than men. We don't think, "oh, can't hug Vanessa for too long, she'll think I'm gay", whereas there is always an element of that when men express their emotion physically. Unless sports are involved.

FYI, Many gay men don't practice buggery.

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Who's vanessa.

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Originally Posted by Blythorama

From your comments it has something to do with penetration I feel. Heterosexual men don't get penetrated or "taken" and percieve the act of being "taken" to be an act of weakness maybe? I dunno. Just seems like double standards.

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Not really a sign of weakness. I've had things stuck up my arse and that's an experience I don't care to repeat. Now, if others want it, good for them.

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Originally Posted by Blythorama

Exactly. From your comments it has something to do with penetration I feel. Heterosexual men don't get penetrated or "taken" and percieve the act of being "taken" to be an act of weakness maybe? I dunno. Just seems like double standards.

I think the concept of most women being half way gay, busy, is a male fantasy rather than a female reality. There is nothing sexual about hugging another woman, we are more comfortable with physical expression than men. We don't think, "oh, can't hug Vanessa for too long, she'll think I'm gay", whereas there is always an element of that when men express their emotion physically. Unless sports are involved.

FYI, Many gay men don't practice buggery.

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Who's vanessa.

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Originally Posted by Blythorama

From your comments it has something to do with penetration I feel. Heterosexual men don't get penetrated or "taken" and percieve the act of being "taken" to be an act of weakness maybe? I dunno. Just seems like double standards.

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Not really a sign of weakness. I've had things stuck up my arse and that's an experience I don't care to repeat. Now, if others want it, good for them.

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I'm not talking about pessaries! Sex is different.
Anal sex is about power and control, not about getting off on fucking someones guts. The person who is having it done to them is completely submissive to the buggerer. Many men are not comfortable being submissive, especially not to other men, you are by nature, competitive creatures.

Watching non-violent consenting sex acts in porn is a turn on. Most women are comfortable enough to agree that they find women on women action arousing whether or not they want to practice it in real life themselves . Is anyone comfortable with themselves enough to admit they find men with men arousing? I'm not talking about buggery necessarily, which I admit is not a turn on simply as it looks violent to me, but what about blowjobs/handjobs/guys kissing?

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Originally Posted by Blythorama

Man-on-man action is hot, precisely because it's more taboo than girl-on-girl. Us lasses rarely get to see you lot getting it on.

Why is this, seriously? Why is it a socially acceptable turn-on for both sexes to watch lass-on-lass but not man-on-man? Is it a threat to male sexuality to watch it? If so, why is it not a threat to ours to watch lesbo-action? Or are all women percieved as "being a little bit gay really"?

Just curious really.

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It's quite easy....female are halfway gay already.

You complement on each others butt, help each other get dressed and hug each other all close like.

Further from that, it is socially acceptable 'cause women getting it on just look like sexy women. Men look like bitches.

I used to date a gay female and she was just as feminine as a straight woman. Sadly I couldn't get a threesome.:dry:

She also told me that gay women, even the butchiest ones, sometimes want dick.

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How the fuck did you date a gay woman? Are you a lass?

Or do you mean she was bi?

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Originally Posted by manker

I really don't know about socially acceptable. I'm only talking from my perspective and what I'd like and what I wouldn't like.

I definitely don't like the thought of having anything up my arse and don't want to watch another bloke getting anything up his. Conversely, most ladies love getting munched on so don't mind seeing a lesbian sixty-nine.

Maybe that's it :unsure:

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But by your logic, you wouldn't mind seeing a bloke giving another a blowjob for you enjoy them yourself?

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There was no logic in that post and nor did I allude to there being some.

I've no idea why I don't want to watch gay porn, I just don't :unsure:

The reason I don't is cause I'm not attracted to men, quite simple really.

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Originally Posted by Proper Bo

But by your logic, you wouldn't mind seeing a bloke giving another a blowjob for you enjoy them yourself?

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There was no logic in that post and nor did I allude to there being some.

I've no idea why I don't want to watch gay porn, I just don't :unsure:

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I was only asking because I was curious about why girl-on-girl was so interesting and man-action wasn't.

I suppose the long and short of it is that you get to see two/four of everything.

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I've no idea why I don't want to watch gay porn, I just don't :unsure:

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Not even gay women.:unsure:

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Originally Posted by Proper Bo

But by your logic, you wouldn't mind seeing a bloke giving another a blowjob for you enjoy them yourself?

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Exactly. From your comments it has something to do with penetration I feel. Heterosexual men don't get penetrated or "taken" and percieve the act of being "taken" to be an act of weakness maybe? I dunno. Just seems like double standards.

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Well, I don't get anything out of watching a bloke get a BJ off a girl either. Some guys do ... I don't know how to explain that either and would venture to guess that it cannot be encapsulated by anyone.

Since what stimulates us varies from person to person.

If you're insinuating that getting taken is thought of by heterosexual men as a weakness and therefore not erotic, then wouldn't the converse - seeing a woman get bukkaked - be the ultimate turn on, since it embodies dominance.

Because it isn't :dabs:

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Not even gay women.:unsure:

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manker said that, not me:blink:

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Originally Posted by Blythorama

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Originally Posted by manker

There was no logic in that post and nor did I allude to there being some.

I've no idea why I don't want to watch gay porn, I just don't :unsure:

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I was only asking because I was curious about why girl-on-girl was so interesting and man-action wasn't.

I suppose the long and short of it is that you get to see two/four of everything.

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Indeed :01:

But that was obvious from a bloke's point of view - you were initially enquiring as to why women seemed more receptive to lesbian porn than men seeing two blokes getting sweaty.

I still have no idea of the answer :D

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Originally Posted by Blythorama

Exactly. From your comments it has something to do with penetration I feel. Heterosexual men don't get penetrated or "taken" and percieve the act of being "taken" to be an act of weakness maybe? I dunno. Just seems like double standards.

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Well, I don't get anything out of watching a bloke get a BJ off a girl either. Some guys do ... I don't know how to explain that either and would venture to guess that it cannot be encapsulated by anyone.

Since what stimulates us is varies from person to person.

If you're insinuating that getting taken is thought of by heterosexual men as a weakness and therefore not erotic, then wouldn't the converse - seeing a woman get bukkaked - be the ultimate turn on, since it embodies dominance.

Because it isn't :dabs:

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No, I was merely speculating. I don't find anal sex remotely appealing. I have met some men however, that do find it the ultimate turn on when a woman is involved, precisely because of the dominance issue.

Whatever floats your boat I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Blythorama

I was only asking because I was curious about why girl-on-girl was so interesting and man-action wasn't.

I suppose the long and short of it is that you get to see two/four of everything.

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Indeed :01:

But that was obvious from a bloke's point of view - you were initially enquiring as to why women seemed more receptive to lesbian porn than men seeing two blokes getting sweaty.

I still have no idea of the answer :D

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Maybe its because its more socially acceptable? If I suggested to someone I was sleeping with that we get a male-on-male porn flick, he'd most likely respond in the same way as you chaps!

So nurture > nature in this case?

I tend to agree but wouldn't go so far as to use it as a general rule - a la Busyman :P

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Originally Posted by Blythorama

I was only asking because I was curious about why girl-on-girl was so interesting and man-action wasn't.

I suppose the long and short of it is that you get to see two/four of everything.

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Indeed :01:

But that was obvious from a bloke's point of view - you were initially enquiring as to why women seemed more receptive to lesbian porn than men seeing two blokes getting sweaty.

I still have no idea of the answer :D

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That's quite easy.....

Women are held to a higher standard than men in society. Men are considered easily aroused and overtly sexual.

To a woman being sexual is sexy. To see 2 or more with each is even better.

Men on the other hand, with other men is punkish and bitchy. A man wanting to get done is disgusting and unmanly like....that's for women.

Women licking twat is not manly.

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So nurture > nature in this case?

I tend to agree but wouldn't go so far as to use it as a general rule - a la Busyman :P

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There, I thought you might have use for it, manrod.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

It's quite easy....female are halfway gay already.

You complement on each others butt, help each other get dressed and hug each other all close like.

Further from that, it is socially acceptable 'cause women getting it on just look like sexy women. Men look like bitches.

I used to date a gay female and she was just as feminine as a straight woman. Sadly I couldn't get a threesome.:dry:

She also told me that gay women, even the butchiest ones, sometimes want dick.

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How the fuck did you date a gay woman? Are you a lass?

Or do you mean she was bi?

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She had been only with women for 15 years. She considered men disgusting and disease carriers. I think long ago she considered women to be safer.

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So nurture > nature in this case?

I tend to agree but wouldn't go so far as to use it as a general rule - a la Busyman :P

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Well, not really nurture. More like social acceptance of different forms of erotica. Male fantasies are catered for with a massive porn industry directed at them. It is only recently porn specially designed for women has been available.

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How the fuck did you date a gay woman? Are you a lass?

Or do you mean she was bi?

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She had been only with women for 15 years. She considered men disgusting and disease carriers. I think long ago she considered women to be safer.

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I still don't get it. Are you saying she "recovered" from her gayness to be with you?

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She had been only with women for 15 years. She considered men disgusting and disease carriers. I think long ago she considered women to be safer.

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I still don't get it. Are you saying she "recovered" from her gayness to be with you?

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maybe his flabby bitch-tits confused her:unsure:

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I still don't get it. Are you saying she "recovered" from her gayness to be with you?

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maybe his flabby bitch-tits confused her:unsure:

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I still don't get it. Are you saying she "recovered" from her gayness to be with you?

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maybe his flabby bitch-tits confused her:unsure:

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Well, I don't get anything out of watching a bloke get a BJ off a girl either. Some guys do ... I don't know how to explain that either and would venture to guess that it cannot be encapsulated by anyone.

Since what stimulates us is varies from person to person.

If you're insinuating that getting taken is thought of by heterosexual men as a weakness and therefore not erotic, then wouldn't the converse - seeing a woman get bukkaked - be the ultimate turn on, since it embodies dominance.

Because it isn't :dabs:

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No, I was merely speculating. I don't find anal sex remotely appealing. I have met some men however, that do find it the ultimate turn on when a woman is involved, precisely because of the dominance issue.

Whatever floats your boat I suppose.

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Almost every time I did that, the female suggested it. Maybe it was just something different, who knows. It's not bad once a she relaxes but I prefer twat. :dabs:

I did notice some women get bolder with their sexual actions when drunk but I guess anyone does.

If I go to a bar alone, all I have to do is give it time and there'll be some lady getting bold with herself. Sometimes they look good (damn good) and sometimes I gotta tell them "I'm waiting for my girlfriend".

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maybe his flabby bitch-tits confused her:unsure:

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rly, I did glag, irl, like.

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So nurture > nature in this case?

I tend to agree but wouldn't go so far as to use it as a general rule - a la Busyman :P

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Well, not really nurture. More like social acceptance of different forms of erotica. Male fantasies are catered for with a massive porn industry directed at them. It is only recently porn specially designed for women has been available.

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If it's not nature, by definition it must be nurture. That really is a black and white scenario.

Btw, did you notice how even tho' Busy is signed in anonymous, I pre-empted his posts with a succinct encapsulation :o

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I still don't get it. Are you saying she "recovered" from her gayness to be with you?

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maybe his flabby bitch-tits confused her:unsure:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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She had been only with women for 15 years. She considered men disgusting and disease carriers. I think long ago she considered women to be safer.

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I still don't get it. Are you saying she "recovered" from her gayness to be with you?

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Hell no. She still was attracted to women. No one can turn off that attraction.

She did say that she can't believe she used to eat pussy. I thought that was bullshit.

She did give shitty bj's...at first but got much much better.

Besides that though, she was a damn good woman. I wish it had worked out between me and her. She wanted to have a kid with me badly but I had to be married first.:(

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Hell no. She still was attracted to women. No one can turn off that attraction.

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But you can turn it on, right?

So let me get this straight, people can decide to be gay but can't decide not to be gay.

At least so you said in a different thread :rolleyes:

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Hell no. She still was attracted to women. No one can turn off that attraction.

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But you can turn it on, right?

So let me get this straight, people can decide to be gay but can't decide not to be gay.

At least so you said in a different thread :rolleyes:

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Your lying. Post a link.

You can decide who you have sex with but not who is attractive.

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But you can turn it on, right?

So let me get this straight, people can decide to be gay but can't decide not to be gay.

At least so you said in a different thread :rolleyes:

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Your lying. Post a link.

You can decide who you have sex with but not who is attractive.

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I have a photographic memory :dry:

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Well, not really nurture. More like social acceptance of different forms of erotica. Male fantasies are catered for with a massive porn industry directed at them. It is only recently porn specially designed for women has been available.

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If it's not nature, by definition it must be nurture. That really is a black and white scenario.

Btw, did you notice how even tho' Busy is signed in anonymous, I pre-empted his posts :o

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Nature = Inherent in ourselves.
Nurture = Response to environmental stimuli.

I really don't know how our sexual responses are formed, whether they are learned or inherent. I'd like to say its a bit of both, but I really don't know. It's an interesting subject, how our preferences are formed and why we find something erotic or not. I do find the thought of two straight men together erotic, but I think it is more to do with the taboo, than anything else. But then again, I find the thought of another woman erotic too, but not because of the taboo.

I shall have to do some more research.

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Your lying. Post a link.

You can decide who you have sex with but not who is attractive.

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I have a photographic memory :dry:

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Nah. You've done stuff like that before.

It's probably more a problem with your reading comprehension than you being deceptive.

I apologize for my previous remarks.:)

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If it's not nature, by definition it must be nurture. That really is a black and white scenario.

Btw, did you notice how even tho' Busy is signed in anonymous, I pre-empted his posts :o

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Nature = Inherent in ourselves.
Nurture = Response to environmental stimuli.

I really don't know how our sexual responses are formed, whether they are learned or inherent. I'd like to say its a bit of both, but I really don't know. It's an interesting subject, how our preferences are formed and why we find something erotic or not. I do find the thought of two straight men together erotic, but I think it is more to do with the taboo, than anything else. But then again, I find the thought of another woman erotic too, but not because of the taboo.

I shall have to do some more research.

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Yes, a mix of both things which are, in themselves, mutually exclusive - and a mix which is different in everyone. That is exactly what I'm saying.

The taboo thing (two straight guys) is nurture and the not taboo thing (another woman) is nature ... however, because you, presumably, like the look of a knob then the former is partly to do with nature and because there is an inherent taboo involved with homosexual behaviour then the latter could be a little to do with nurture.

It's all very confusing and impossible to state something which will be correct for everyone.