Australia Finally Going To The Motherfucking World Cup!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by jetje

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Originally Posted by manker

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Originally Posted by jetje

what else did everyone expect, They had a Dutch coach!
Korea has a dutch coach and is qualified
Trinidad and tobaco have a dutch coach and are qualified
And the dutch have a dutch coach and are qualified.... !

well i guess you all know what i mean

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The Dutch league is shit and all the best Dutch managers ply their trade abroad?

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sais someone from Wales :P
The dutch leaguea ain't shite, simple fact. The dutch national squad is ranked 3th on the FIFA list in the world, and there are 10 players in the dutch squad that still play in that 'according to you' shite league.
Also we have severall teams reaching pretty far in the european leagues....
PSV-Eindhoven half-final champions league, AZ Alkmaar quarter final eufa-cup.

But then again, i'm telling this to someone from Wales ;) How's your league? :lol:

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I wasn't comparing it to the Welsh league, I am fully aware that the Welsh soccer league isn't good. I don't brag about it. Wales is a nation of three million people who play rugby, not football. We're quite good at rugby, not so hot at football. Think of me as an objective football fan.

I was stating a simple fact to answer your question, you asked if we knew what you meant, I did - the best Dutch managers AND players go abroad because the Dutch league is rubbish. It's a good nursery for the better clubs to get good players because Dutch folk are nuts about footie and every young boy wants to pull on an orange shirt. Man United will be forever grateful to PSV and Barcelona should really pay a subsidy to the Dutch FA since they've been signing any Dutch bloke who looks half decent for nearly 30 years.

Holland cannot keep up financially with other leagues in Europe, so their league suffers and their top talent leaves in order to fulfil their potential and benefit the national team. I would say that the recent success of Holland internationally has much more to do with foreign leagues and their high level of coaching than anything in the Dutch leagues.

Those ten Dutch league players in the Dutch squad won't be in the team for much longer if they stay in that league. They won't be able to test themselves against decent players if they stay there, they have to go to better leagues, like the Premiership and La Liga, to further their development as players.

Same with managers, they could stay in the Dutch league and manage second and third rate players but only if they move abroad will they get the chance to work with world class players. Look at Martin Jol, he is an excellent coach who worked wonders with Waalwijk (sp?) but he decided to move to a mediocre English team, yes Spurs were very ordinary when he joined.

There is no denying that the Netherlands produces players and managers of the highest calibre but compared with Serie A, The Premiership and La Liga - even the Bundesliga - your league has a couple of goodish teams but overall, it is rubbish, akin to the Scottish or lower division of the English Leagues

Sure, a lot better than Wales - but then I'm not the one bragging, am I :)

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Originally Posted by jetje

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Originally Posted by manker

The Dutch league is shit and all the best Dutch managers ply their trade abroad?

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sais someone from Wales :P
The dutch leaguea ain't shite, simple fact. The dutch national squad is ranked 3th on the FIFA list in the world, and there are 10 players in the dutch squad that still play in that 'according to you' shite league.
Also we have severall teams reaching pretty far in the european leagues....
PSV-Eindhoven half-final champions league, AZ Alkmaar quarter final eufa-cup.

But then again, i'm telling this to someone from Wales ;) How's your league? :lol:

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Go roll over for the Nazis.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

I like Union 'cause the games are exciting and short. 30 minutes and done.

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Are you sure? :blink:

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Originally Posted by manker

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Originally Posted by jetje

But then again, i'm telling this to someone from Wales ;) How's your league? :lol:

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I wasn't comparing it to the Welsh league, I am fully aware that the Welsh soccer league isn't good. I don't brag about it. Wales is a nation of three million people who play rugby, not football. We're quite good at rugby, not so hot at football. Think of me as an objective football fan.

I was stating a simple fact to answer your question, you asked if we knew what you meant, I did - the best Dutch managers AND players go abroad because the Dutch league is rubbish. It's a good nursery for the better clubs to get good players because Dutch folk are nuts about footie and every young boy wants to pull on an orange shirt. Man United will be forever grateful to PSV and Barcelona should really pay a subsidy to the Dutch FA since they've been signing any Dutch bloke who looks half decent for nearly 30 years.

Holland cannot keep up financially with other leagues in Europe, so their league suffers and their top talent leaves in order to fulfil their potential and benefit the national team. I would say that the recent success of Holland internationally has much more to do with foreign leagues and their high level of coaching than anything in the Dutch leagues.

Those ten Dutch league players in the Dutch squad won't be in the team for much longer if they stay in that league. They won't be able to test themselves against decent players if they stay there, they have to go to better leagues, like the Premiership and La Liga, to further their development as players.

Same with managers, they could stay in the Dutch league and manage second and third rate players but only if they move abroad will they get the chance to work with world class players. Look at Martin Jol, he is an excellent coach who worked wonders with Waalwijk (sp?) but he decided to move to a mediocre English team, yes Spurs were very ordinary when he joined.

There is no denying that the Netherlands produces players and managers of the highest calibre but compared with Serie A, The Premiership and La Liga - even the Bundesliga - your league has a couple of goodish teams but overall, it is rubbish, akin to the Scottish or lower division of the English Leagues

Sure, a lot better than Wales - but then I'm not the one bragging, am I :)

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I think he was just trying to wind you up. Luckily you are too chilled-out to fall for such an obvious trick... :blink:

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Originally Posted by Barbarossa

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Originally Posted by manker

I wasn't comparing it to the Welsh league, I am fully aware that the Welsh soccer league isn't good. I don't brag about it. Wales is a nation of three million people who play rugby, not football. We're quite good at rugby, not so hot at football. Think of me as an objective football fan.

I was stating a simple fact to answer your question, you asked if we knew what you meant, I did - the best Dutch managers AND players go abroad because the Dutch league is rubbish. It's a good nursery for the better clubs to get good players because Dutch folk are nuts about footie and every young boy wants to pull on an orange shirt. Man United will be forever grateful to PSV and Barcelona should really pay a subsidy to the Dutch FA since they've been signing any Dutch bloke who looks half decent for nearly 30 years.

Holland cannot keep up financially with other leagues in Europe, so their league suffers and their top talent leaves in order to fulfil their potential and benefit the national team. I would say that the recent success of Holland internationally has much more to do with foreign leagues and their high level of coaching than anything in the Dutch leagues.

Those ten Dutch league players in the Dutch squad won't be in the team for much longer if they stay in that league. They won't be able to test themselves against decent players if they stay there, they have to go to better leagues, like the Premiership and La Liga, to further their development as players.

Same with managers, they could stay in the Dutch league and manage second and third rate players but only if they move abroad will they get the chance to work with world class players. Look at Martin Jol, he is an excellent coach who worked wonders with Waalwijk (sp?) but he decided to move to a mediocre English team, yes Spurs were very ordinary when he joined.

There is no denying that the Netherlands produces players and managers of the highest calibre but compared with Serie A, The Premiership and La Liga - even the Bundesliga - your league has a couple of goodish teams but overall, it is rubbish, akin to the Scottish or lower division of the English Leagues

Sure, a lot better than Wales - but then I'm not the one bragging, am I :)

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I think he was just trying to wind you up. Luckily you are too chilled-out to fall for such an obvious trick... :blink:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by Barbarossa

I think he was just trying to wind you up. Luckily you are too chilled-out to fall for such an obvious trick... :blink:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Did you miss it where Barbie wrote exactly the same thing to me after jetje origianally replied. He doesn't really believe that jetje was having a larf :rolleyes:


Busy, neither of us are rodding. Jetje firmly believes that the Dutch league is good, I think it's shite. We're having a conversation about it.

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Originally Posted by manker

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Originally Posted by Busyman

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Did you miss it where Barbie wrote exactly the same thing to me after jetje origianally replied. He doesn't really believe that jetje was having a larf :rolleyes:


Busy, neither of us are rodding. Jetje firmly believes that the Dutch league is good, I think it's shite. We're having a conversation about it.

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Stop explaining, mank.

[explaining]The fact he used it again (exactly) was what was funny. Put a fancy font on it with a background and it's a badge.[/explaining]

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Originally Posted by manker

Jetje firmly believes that the Dutch league is good, I think it's shite.

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It's neither.

Did I mention I'm from Scotland, at all.

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Originally Posted by Busyman

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Originally Posted by manker

Did you miss it where Barbie wrote exactly the same thing to me after jetje origianally replied. He doesn't really believe that jetje was having a larf :rolleyes:


Busy, neither of us are rodding. Jetje firmly believes that the Dutch league is good, I think it's shite. We're having a conversation about it.

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Stop explaining, mank.

[explaining]The fact he used it again (exactly) was what was funny. Put a fancy font on it with a background and it's a badge.[/explaining]

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Feck, you got it!

My bad, I assumed you wouldn't have.

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Originally Posted by manker

Jetje firmly believes that the Dutch league is good, I think it's shite.

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It's neither.

Did I mention I'm from Scotland, at all.

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Maybe the conversation will end in a happy compromise, I've given a little in saying that it's a poor league with a couple of good teams, which is precisely what it is.

Maybe jetje will agree, who knows.

Your Jockishness allows you to paint a picture in your mind of my scenario - altho' t'Jam Tarts were making a good of a fist of it before they imploded at board level.

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Originally Posted by manker

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Originally Posted by Busyman

Stop explaining, mank.

[explaining]The fact he used it again (exactly) was what was funny. Put a fancy font on it with a background and it's a badge.[/explaining]

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Feck, you got it!

My bad, I assumed you wouldn't have.

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[explaining]I usually do, mank, but the banter is funny or simply unboring enough to keep going.[/explaining]

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Feck, you got it!

My bad, I assumed you wouldn't have.

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[explaining]I usually do, mank, but the banter is funny or simply unboring enough to keep going.[/explaining]

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See, that's why I think it's pointless arguing with you because you see the point but prefer to argue anyhow.

I keep doing it, tho' :shutup:

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Originally Posted by manker

Your Jockishness allows you to paint a picture in your mind of my scenario - altho' t'Jam Tarts were making a good of a fist of it before they imploded at board level.

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Which was noice.

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Originally Posted by manker

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Originally Posted by Busyman

[explaining]I usually do, mank, but the banter is funny or simply unboring enough to keep going.[/explaining]

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See, that's why I think it's pointless arguing with you because you see the point but prefer to argue anyhow.

I keep doing it, tho' :shutup:

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I get bored during the day. Honestly, many of my opinions are real and at odds with your status quo. When you start getting loud, I play along.

bussyman you said you liked union and think tis exciting you should watch rugby league it shits all over union it terms of excitement they actually try to score trys now penalty goals and drop goals

in fact when Denver broncos came here for a pre season game one year they watched a game John Elway and Shannaham loved the game of League found it exicitng and were amazed we didnt stop for a commerical breal

ok i sound Biased but league was what I was brought up on union just puts me to sleep

Good on you ozzies , mabye one day I can post Canada has qualified too . We beat Luxemburg 1-0 tho . :lol:

Luxembourg is ranked around 120th in teh world :lol:

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Luxembourg is ranked around 120th in teh world :lol:

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:ermm:

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Luxembourg is ranked around 120th in teh world :lol:

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That's 'cos they rolled over for the Nazis.

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Originally Posted by Adster

bussyman you said you liked union and think tis exciting you should watch rugby league it shits all over union it terms of excitement they actually try to score trys now penalty goals and drop goals

in fact when Denver broncos came here for a pre season game one year they watched a game John Elway and Shannaham loved the game of League found it exicitng and were amazed we didnt stop for a commerical breal

ok i sound Biased but league was what I was brought up on union just puts me to sleep

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I don't think they show Rugby League here. Rugby Union either comes on INHD or ESPN; I can't remember which and I don't watch it often.

I used to watch English League Soccer from time to time on PPV.

Rugby and football are so different though that I wonder why people compare them.

Besides the gameplay mechanics, football is more about setting up the play.

Rugby (and soccer actually) are more anarchistic. It's like watching a boxing match or something.

I wish we got AFL here. :(

Why was Elway amazed there was no commercial break?

yeah American football is a strategy game a lot like chess

not so much the commercial break but that fact that when you go to a game the game doesn't stop for a commercial break if you know what I mean.. its like TRY kicked the goal Kickoff straight away when your actually at the game

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Originally Posted by manker

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Originally Posted by jetje

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Originally Posted by manker

The Dutch league is shit and all the best Dutch managers ply their trade abroad?

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sais someone from Wales :P
The dutch leaguea ain't shite, simple fact. The dutch national squad is ranked 3th on the FIFA list in the world, and there are 10 players in the dutch squad that still play in that 'according to you' shite league.
Also we have severall teams reaching pretty far in the european leagues....
PSV-Eindhoven half-final champions league, AZ Alkmaar quarter final eufa-cup.

But then again, i'm telling this to someone from Wales ;) How's your league? :lol:

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I wasn't comparing it to the Welsh league, I am fully aware that the Welsh soccer league isn't good. I don't brag about it. Wales is a nation of three million people who play rugby, not football. We're quite good at rugby, not so hot at football. Think of me as an objective football fan.

I was stating a simple fact to answer your question, you asked if we knew what you meant, I did - the best Dutch managers AND players go abroad because the Dutch league is rubbish. It's a good nursery for the better clubs to get good players because Dutch folk are nuts about footie and every young boy wants to pull on an orange shirt. Man United will be forever grateful to PSV and Barcelona should really pay a subsidy to the Dutch FA since they've been signing any Dutch bloke who looks half decent for nearly 30 years.

Holland cannot keep up financially with other leagues in Europe, so their league suffers and their top talent leaves in order to fulfil their potential and benefit the national team. I would say that the recent success of Holland internationally has much more to do with foreign leagues and their high level of coaching than anything in the Dutch leagues.

Those ten Dutch league players in the Dutch squad won't be in the team for much longer if they stay in that league. They won't be able to test themselves against decent players if they stay there, they have to go to better leagues, like the Premiership and La Liga, to further their development as players.

Same with managers, they could stay in the Dutch league and manage second and third rate players but only if they move abroad will they get the chance to work with world class players. Look at Martin Jol, he is an excellent coach who worked wonders with Waalwijk (sp?) but he decided to move to a mediocre English team, yes Spurs were very ordinary when he joined.

There is no denying that the Netherlands produces players and managers of the highest calibre but compared with Serie A, The Premiership and La Liga - even the Bundesliga - your league has a couple of goodish teams but overall, it is rubbish, akin to the Scottish or lower division of the English Leagues

Sure, a lot better than Wales - but then I'm not the one bragging, am I :)

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Well, I'm from The Netherlands but I totally agree with Manker's vision. The Dutch league is perfect for gaining experience for younger players before moving to the big competitions.

Here's teh penalty shootout posted by AsiaPlate:

http://media.putfile.com/penalty1
sorry if anobody else has posted it before

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Originally Posted by maebach

Luxembourg is ranked around 120th in teh world :lol:

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My point son . :D

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Originally Posted by Adster

yeah American football is a strategy game a lot like chess

not so much the commercial break but that fact that when you go to a game the game doesn't stop for a commercial break if you know what I mean.. its like TRY kicked the goal Kickoff straight away when your actually at the game

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aHHH.

There's nothing like see a football team run the Counter Tray or HB Option and seeing it work...

..or the quarterback getting in trouble surrounded by defenders and he runs for 19 yards for the 1st down...

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Originally Posted by maebach

Here's teh penalty shootout posted by AsiaPlate:

http://media.putfile.com/penalty1
sorry if anobody else has posted it before

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Noice.:D

Now lets see you guys get to the PDGA finals!

Im buying the DVD of it on Friday...fuck that was an awsome game.