how does the graphx of 7 compare to 8?
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how does the graphx of 7 compare to 8?
If you couldn't deal with the graphics of FF8 then you're going to struggle with FF7's style as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by abu_has_the_power
http://www.juegomania.org/Final+Fant...antasy+VII.jpg
Yeah I liked it for a moment then got tired of "run then encounter enemy somewhere on the board that you can't see then take turns fighting."Quote:
Originally Posted by Adster
I admittedly bought it 'cause of the hype but was later stunned that people finished it. I remember you put gems in your weapons or something.
Now I'm playing The Bard's Tale on Xbox and it's production is noice.
:cry: :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
LOL goofy looking characters but I still go through ff7 once a year
the game ruined my school life used to wag school to play it
The graphics weren't that bad for the time it came out, but it is the gameplay that matters anyhow (assuming you like that style of RPG). I remember playing Wasteland for days on end as a bairn and the graphics for that would probably melt the eyes of some of the kiddies nowadays (though it shares many elements with games like Final Fantasy):Quote:
Originally Posted by Adster
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...elandgame1.png
When I was younger...I played Zork.
:ph34r:
Ah, text adventures. You had to imagine your own graphics back then. None of this millions of polygons per second, FPS, anti-aliasing, pixel shading, HDR lighting, Havoc physics nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
amazing isnt if in teh C64 and atari days we were happy with stick figures now kids wont play a games if the graphics "suck" even if the gameplay is mad
my fav atari game was crossbow
"A giant rat has entered the room."Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
"A giant snake has entered the room."
Aww FUCK!!!
sometimes thankfully they don't work in tandem
"The giant snake attacks the giant rat."
Yess!!:01:
to think kids thease days missing out on stuff like this
http://www.flipsiderunner.com/7800/cbss1.gif
http://www.flipsiderunner.com/7800/cbss2.gif
instead they get there halos and doom 3 and can complain that someones left soc has more red in it then the right sock
kids have got it easy thease days can get porn off the net for free
cheats off the net without having to ring up a 1800 number for $5 a minute or buy a magizine
lol
just lol
yes, and i still own all 3 in mint condition. missing scenario II & III of III though. stupid regions. GREAT games though none-the-less!!! also, the ps2 recently released another shining force. i WILL get it will it cums down in price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
someone also mentioned phantasy star. those were the sega dragon warrriors. notice, i didn't say final fantasy... i still own all 4 phantasy star games also. mint condition. i have phantasy star online I, II & III too. phantasy star is GREAT. phantasy star II was BEST! III was dogshit. remake of I should be cummin' out sometime.. sega? be nice for a V though...
Tell me do you turn-based RPG players go through the entire game before realizing it's dogshit or stop at least a quarter of the way through?
Just wondering since these game are quite lengthy.
i haven't really loved a turn-based RPG since Phantasy Star II, which WAS brilliant for its time. that game made every single turn-based NES RPG look like a pile of dogshit, not only because of the graphics but everything from the music to the story etc etc etc. Nei's death and the ending where the hundred dudes rush out, the screen fades to black, and the dudes rip your characters' arms off and beat them over the head with their own arms until they die and you're like "WTF WHY ARE YOU KILLING MY GUYS, WE JUST FUCKING SAVED THE GALAXY FROM MOTHER BRAIN"... that freaked me out to no end. i was 12 years old, it was very dramatic.
i only completed one more turn-based RPG after that: the first Final Fantasy Game Boy game which was really a SaGa game. i climbed the tower and killed God. it was okay (for a Game Boy cartridge), but it was no PHANTASY STAR II.
i tried Final Fantasy 8, but after only 1 or 2 dream sequences i figured out that it was a pile of highly polished, extremely old-fashioned dogshit.
i bought Shining Force II for 5 dollars at a game shop recently, then sold it on eBay for $30+. the label on the cartridge was in terrible condition too, but apparently those games are in high demand. i've heard that the Shining games are supposed to be good, but yeah. i don't have the patience anymore. they did make sequels for GameGear, Saturn, and i believe GBA. but maybe not all of them were released in english.
Erm, you you do realise that people enjoy different types of games from other people? I mean, these types of games are huge in Japan for instance but less successful (but still played by a hardcore minority) in places like USA (sidenote:maybe it's your unconcious hatred of anything un-Amercian that leads you to repeatedly and predictably state your dislike of these type of games...?). Different people want different things from their games. Some would complain that the combat in games like Bard's Tale or Morrowind soon becomes highly repetive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
I really shouldn't have to be explaining this concept to an adult.
..and no one asked you to. :dabs: ...especially since it had nothing to do with my question. Here we also go again with the American shit. Do you have an inferiority complex or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
But I'm serious, do you go all the way through an 80-hour epic then go, "This was shit."
I, no doubt, know that RPGs have their place. Not everyone has the skill for an FPS, fighting game, etc. The slower pace and cinematics are an allure for some.
Someone asks about a lengthy game and you go on a dumbass diatribe about whateverthefuck.:lol: :lol:
What's funny is I was going to get that FF game that someone said plays like KOTOR.:happy:
Post 56. RIF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
It's not a lack of skill that makes someone not want to play a game. I can complete any FPS I choose to pick up but I can only play the really good ones like Half Life 2 or FEAR without getting bored. Personal taste. You do understand what that means right? People aren't playing RPG's because they are not good enough to play "proper" games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
You should word your questions better then. As it stands it is just an attack, it doesn't leave any room for the fact that people enjoy these games it just condemns them. If you get to ask dumbass questions then I certainly get to reply to them with dumbass diatribes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
RIF yourself. You didn't answer the question.:ermm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
I know in an FPS, fighting game, or whateverthefuck one tends not to finish the game if it is disliked. I have heard remarks regarding a game dogshit or wasting lots of time doing crap tasks. That's what the question was addressing that you didn't answer (I really don't care if you do at this point).
I really shouldn't have to explain this to an adult so I explained it to you.
Yeah, I'm making my replies turn-based. So what?
Post 60. RIF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
Good gracious, you take offense to everything.:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
For many it is a lack of skill. It does not really require timing nor finger dexterity.
The "no shit" comes in when you try and defend it doesn't apply to everyone.
The question still stands on it's own and remains valid.:huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
Show me the condemnation in my question. Some have said certain RPGs were dogshit. When was that realized?
I EVEN said, "Just wondering since these games are quite lengthy."
Congratulations, you asked the question properly this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
So to answer. I don't think I've ever completed a game I didn't like from any genre. But with respect to RPG games I've completed some of them and thought, "Gee, the end to this story sucks balls". That's mostly the Japanese ones to be honest, you expect all the loose ends of the confusing plot and storyline to be tied up but it never is. I'm guessing the story doesn't translate. That's not to say I didn't enjoy the game itself just that the story ending was anti-climatic.
Though to be fair the endings for a lot of computer games suck, Half Life 2 springs to mind.
a lot of people don't go "this was shit" :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman
i find the narrative endings to most videogames, regardless of genre or platform, quite unsatisfying. i love playing games, i really do. dislike playing shoddy ones, take delight in the few that strike the right chord for me... just like anyone else. but i feel videogames are (in nearly every instance) narratively very immature. sometimes makes me think i'd rather just have games with no semblance of a plot whatsoever (Tetris, Pac-Man, Pole Position) rather than all this stuff that's got the pretense of dramatic maturity ("it's the Gone With The Wind... of videogames! it's the War & Peace... of videogames!") but in reality has no greater dramatic aspirations than a typical episode of Miami Vice (see: GTA Vice City) or an above-average Steven Seagal movie (see: Metal Gear Solid 2). that's relatively good, for a videogame, but a bit pathetic when considered as part of all narrative media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
i mean, the fact that the videogame industry consistently adapts characters & stories from other media's most disposable garbage (Van Helsing: The Movie: The Game, Dukes Of Hazzard: The TV Show: The Movie: The Game, Starsky & Hutch: The TV Show: The Movie: The Game, Gundam-followed-by-whatever-numbers-and-acronyms) says a lot to me about the end to which videogame developers are pursuing the whole narrative/storytelling element. may as well not pursue it at all, if that's where they intend to take it. the medium itself has potential, but the game developers seem more interested in falsely claiming that games have already reached the same maturity as much older media (drama, painting, literature, music) than in actually putting the effort & talent into getting there.
i love a good videogame, but yeah. it's pretty sad, to think about how huge the videogame business is and how much potential is wasted while it's content to feed exclusively on the sort of material that comes out of pop-culture's anus.
Course they do, in fact this is a common saying amongst the dozens of pasty faced geek kids who just spent 1625 hours completing Final Oxymoron 26:Quote:
a lot of people don't go "this was shit" :blink:
"Gee, this game was dogshit. I was I had the mad skillz like Busyman and could play a proper game."
:happy:
Good post. I do chuckle when I read "good storyline" in a game review or a forum post. Really they should qualify it with " - for a computer game". It's no coincidence that games made into movies suck, it's because the games themselves are derivative of movie cliches in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3RA1N1AC
Translation: The question had enough sugar for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheese
When you complete an 80-hour RPG it's really, if anything, the ending that would suck.
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Are there any other of you turn-based RPG players that finished a lengthy game and the game, not the ending, sucked ass?
Suck ass endings are quite common in any genre so that pretty much goes without saying (yet I said it:blink: ).
Yeah, I liked Phantasy Star II as well. Took me a weekend to complete that, which meant I could take the game back to the store for a refund.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. nails
I seem to recall that some of the later Shining Force editions are around to download, I suppose with an emulator they might be playable. :shifty:
i know people who've played through final fantasy games 4 or 5 times :dabs:
I have played FFVII 4 times, 2 times FFVIII and FFIX 2 times aswell!
I'm looking forward to play FFXII and if i manage to get a PS2 sooner to play X and X-2!!
good god, y'all.
I'm a FF8 fan,
I did try the others but after playing 8 just could not better that for me.
Damn I've had the game a long time.
I've only replaced two games from my PS2 collection, GTA/SA, & FF8
My ff8 disk one is broken....thats like the best disk too lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CELEBS_ARE_US
i find myself playing ff7 and 9 lately, when i have nothing else to do...