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Originally Posted by leonidas
hum....nobody says a word. I appologize for being such a talking machine.
Apology accepted.
You might try not posting in such horrible word-bricks - don't I remember you posting that you're a teacher of some description - that way more people are likely to reach the end of your post, rather than giving up in frustration half way thro'.
You have some interesting ideas but I get eye-aids trying to navigate your offerings.
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The Sopranos; it's just entertainment, do you think the real mafia is like that. Of course not, and neither do 95% of the people watching it.
So, that's why America can show such a program and that's why people can watch it without it altering their moral outlook.
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He could learn a lot from Gillian. Perhaps they can get together :wub:
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Yes, I know The Sopranos is a fiction. My way of speaking thinking choosing the topics I'm talking about, might seem very strange, even agressive to you.
This is maybe a diference between french and american way of thinking. The tendency in France for instance to achieve things, to analyse, consist more in criticizing, in order to point out problems, and resolve them efficiently.
Actually I remember my teacher telling us when I was 8, to have what we call "esprit critique" which means thinking questioning everything.
While you seem for the litlle (or maybe the lot I don't know) I've seen of your culture, to try to think aiming to efficiency instead of perfection.
Many french think they are perfect in what they are & do, & think they have nothing to hear from anyone most of the time :)
If that's the way it is, your way is more dangerous in some ways, but definitly more human.
Some of us reject, don't accept their human side, even I not so long ago. we are nearly japaneses.
The only diference is that we speak a lot. Like I just did without much respect for others in this board indeed. Well ... :)
Re: A message to the americans:
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Yes, I know The Sopranos is a fiction. My way of speaking thinking choosing the topics I'm talking about, might seem very strange, even agressive to you.
This is maybe a diference between french and american way of thinking. The tendency in France for instance to achieve things, to analyse, consist more in criticizing, in order to point out problems, and resolve them efficiently.
It would appear that, to your way of thinking, there are two types of people, French and American.
manker is not American, she is from West England. As such I think you owe her an apology.
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man, that's a lot af apologies already. But I think I owe her one anyway considering I thought she was a guy for noticing I said something smart.
I always think in terms of tendancies. It is for instance totally correct to say many whites are rich and many blacks are poor, as in that case you think in terms of tendancies.
"Tendancy" is one of numerous tools you use usually in sociology and other sciences, if you want to be able to have a valuable and organized picture of some phenomenon.
Re: A message to the americans:
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...Now that the world is governrened by duches...
Douche?
http://www.abeillestore.com/images/p...ouche-zoom.jpg
Or Duchess??
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/gifs2/sissy2.jpg
Which one do you mean??? :stars:
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Originally Posted by orcutt989
Perhaps he means "Duchies"?
Plural of Duchy, BTW...
Re: A message to the americans:
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It is for instance totally correct to say many whites are rich and many blacks are poor,
It would also be quite correct to say there are many more poor white people than black people-in the U.S., anyhow.
Your commendable use of "tendencies" as a tool for deductive purposes might be refined somewhat by a coincidental cogitation of the corollary regarding the focal setting of the lens through which you view them.
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It is for instance totally correct to say many whites are rich and many blacks are poor,
It would also be quite correct to say there are many more poor white people than black people-in the U.S., anyhow.
Your commendable use of "tendencies" as a tool for deductive purposes might be refined somewhat by a coincidental cogitation of the corollary regarding the focal setting of the lens through which you view them.
I'm going to vomit.:sick:
...or disgorge the ingredients located within my epigastrium.:ermm:
Re: A message to the americans:
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Originally Posted by Busyman
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It would also be quite correct to say there are many more poor white people than black people-in the U.S., anyhow.
Your commendable use of "tendencies" as a tool for deductive purposes might be refined somewhat by a coincidental cogitation of the corollary regarding the focal setting of the lens through which you view them.
I'm going to vomit.:sick:
...or disgorge the ingredients located within my epigastrium.:ermm:
:)
To quote Mark Twain, more-or-less:
"Many commentators have thrown much darkness upon the subject, and, if they continue, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
Re: A message to the americans:
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Originally Posted by leonidas
It is for instance totally correct to say many whites are rich and many blacks are poor,
It would also be quite correct to say there are many more poor white people than black people-in the U.S., anyhow.
Your commendable use of "tendencies" as a tool for deductive purposes might be refined somewhat by a coincidental cogitation of the corollary regarding the focal setting of the lens through which you view them.
I assumed it was obvious I was talking about proportions, your statement focusing on the quantity only is irrelevant. declaring considering the amount, that there are more poor white people than black ones in Usa, doesn't support any usefull statement since we are not celebrating the poor bastards awards :D You are beeing sofisticated in your explanations, I think
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Originally Posted by leonidas
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It would also be quite correct to say there are many more poor white people than black people-in the U.S., anyhow.
Your commendable use of "tendencies" as a tool for deductive purposes might be refined somewhat by a coincidental cogitation of the corollary regarding the focal setting of the lens through which you view them.
I assumed it was obvious I was talking about proportions, your statement focusing on the quantity only is irrelevant. declaring considering the amount, that there are more poor white people than black ones in Usa, doesn't support any usefull statement since we are not celebrating the poor bastards awards :D You are beeing sofisticated in your explanations, I think
Then I must say your statement as to "proportion" is incomplete, and serves a likewise incomplete argument.
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Originally Posted by Busyman
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It would also be quite correct to say there are many more poor white people than black people-in the U.S., anyhow.
Your commendable use of "tendencies" as a tool for deductive purposes might be refined somewhat by a coincidental cogitation of the corollary regarding the focal setting of the lens through which you view them.
I'm going to vomit.:sick:
...or disgorge the ingredients located within my epigastrium.:ermm:
:D I quite, on the contrary, like that language. it mproves my english a lot.
If you know any movie or tv show in which the caracters use that kind of language, please tell me. Iwould love it!
Re: A message to the americans:
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I'm going to vomit.:sick:
...or disgorge the ingredients located within my epigastrium.:ermm:
:D I quite, on the contrary, like that language. it might improve my english.
That was quite an awkward amalgam of words.
It would have rolled off the tongue more cleanly had he merely said, '...or disgorge the contents of my epigastrium'.
He'd already established the basic thrust of his comment by divulging his urge to "vomit". :)
Re: A message to the americans:
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I watched 60 Minutes the other day and Leslie Stahl asked a group of Chinese students (almost all boys btw) how many kids they wanted and they all said one.
Then many of them spouted Chinese doctrine about sacrificing for the country. Now this is all congruent with the population situation over there. However, the students thought Americans were selfish for having more than one kid.:unsure:
hey, there's still plenty worse places to live in the world. just ask all those people who keep trying to escape from north korea in order to defect to china. stuff is relative shades of grey, etc.
i just saw something a little while ago on foxnews.com, people writing what they'd say to president bush re: wiretaps & privacy if they had the chance. uh. quite a few people spouting american doctrine about "i'd gladly trade away my freedom in exchange for safety" and "why do you need privacy, if you got nothing to hide." >:/
Re: A message to the americans:
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Originally Posted by leonidas
I assumed it was obvious I was talking about proportions, your statement focusing on the quantity only is irrelevant. declaring considering the amount, that there are more poor white people than black ones in Usa, doesn't support any usefull statement since we are not celebrating the poor bastards awards :D You are beeing sofisticated in your explanations, I think
Then I must say your statement as to "proportion" is incomplete, and serves a likewise incomplete argument.
Indeed, You're right.
One hardly manage to have a complete view on something. That's why one has to introduce, read, study, a subject choosing what he thinks is "the most relevant way to see it".
That's actually what makes journalists so powerfull (assuming they are not under coercition), as they have, given their status, a total control on the way they are going to talk about the subject.
The only obligation they have, (assuming they have the very minimum of integrity), is that each piece of information they provide is not a lie.
Remember the human beeing has only his 5 senses, and his limited brain. If he wants to see what's behind him, he has to choose to turn arround, and then he doesn't see anymore what's in front of him.
I'm affraid with that last sentence I discredited myself, now you are going to think I am a crasy buddah or something :)
