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If Ronaldo didn't win young player of the tournament because of a couple of indiscretions, it'll be the same for her - nine goals or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sextent
She did go down rather easily for the penalty that saw them thro' to the final and for the free kick that saw Vieira score France's second against Spain.
I'm just saying like, it's hardly the 2 horse race that you seem to think it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
There's still twa more games to be played.
I agree they are the favourites given their performances to date. However it's not that long ago that Argentina were unbeatable and everyone else was just fannying about till they picked up the trophy. According to some like.
I think it is a two horse race because of what's gone before - and if a different player gets the award, then the award givers are wrong because they disagree with me.
Didn't someone point out that Zizu has had at least two average games. However his sublime performance agin Brazil and decent one agin Portugal made him right up there.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
What if some chap plays a stunner, in the final. Didn't Zidane do just that 8 (read it 8) years ago.
Yeah he did but Ronaldo was still player of the tournament in 1998 - because of what he'd done in previous games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sextent
Which is really my point :dabs:
Yeah, but neither of your picks have been stunning (see my last), more best of a mediocre lot. So I think it's still open. Well opener than you seem to think.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Anyhoo, I think Zidabe will get it unless he plays merde. Due to sentimentalness and how it's probably his last game evar.
I hope you're eiother joking or have been hacked by some kind of United Arab Emirate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sextent
The boy Cannavaro has caught my eye in every game. In previous tournaments he's been overshadowed by his defensive partner(s) but this time he's been the leading light in the Italian defence.
'cos of the attacking tactic thing.
He really has been magnificent. If you don't believe me, watch the games that he's played in.
Why would I want to watch the games, d'uh.Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
So you now think it's a 1 horse race, Cannavaro a stick on is it.
If it was up to me, aye.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
However, there are likely to be several fluffy romanticists on the panel of judges, this leads me to believe that Zidane will come into the reckoning for this award.
You're right, the thread should have been "should".Quote:
Originally Posted by manker
Agreed.
It's to my eternal detriment :no:
Chelsea to sign Cannavaro, you heard it here first.
Well strictly speaking it was being discussed on Bravo Forums late June. It's just that nobody gives a shit about Chelski signing yet another big name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
No I didn't, I read about the rumours earlier this morning on the interweb.
He'll tell us there's a big game on today, mark my words.
BawA and maybeach will then compete to see who can post the scores first.
Anyone actually interested in football will be watching the game.
It's gotta be Zidane, he went right through the Italian defence and used his head to do it.
I'm thinking Zidane may not be getting it now.
For Sure :MarcelDesailly:Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
Desailly isn't Dutch.:blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by JPaul
:lol: I think he blew it. :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peerzy
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5225/qu6rz.jpg
:huh: :blink:
Zidane won it. :lol:
:glag: I bet they all voted before the final was over :lol:
EDIT: Hahahaha, at half-time. I just read Guill's post properly :pinch:
:dry:
Fecking fluffy romanticists.
Im glad Zidane got it...The feckin Ities had it coming for 3 weeks!...i just wish he did it properly and gave every one of those cheating pricks a Zizou kiss! Buffon especially..what a cuntface!
:glag: You antipodeans kill me ;)
I love me footy! =p
I laughed out loud when I heard it on the car radio.
Out loud I tell you.
Likewise!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sextent
His moment of madness was Cantonaesque and perhaps even slightly enhanced his standing :whistling
He certainly went out with a bang.
I don't understand why the votes were cast at half time.
Admittedly, I was a bit pished but I didn't notice any ceremony at the end of the game to present ZZ with the award and judging by the time of the article on the BBC website, it wasn't announced til this morning anyhow.
Shirley, in South Africa next time around, they won't be doing that again.
Glad Zidane won it, he deserved it more then anyone and stop about all these Headbutting Bullshit, anyone would lose his temper in such sensetive match and on top of that somebody shittalks you, i would break his teeths aways.
I am also happy that Zidane won it but it would have been better if he had kept his cool and helped his team win the game (although it would have probably gone to penalties anyway and they might still be taking them)Quote:
Originally Posted by BawA
This is the first time that anyone has ever head-butted anyone in a World Cup final - but I bet it's not the first time that a player said something insulting to an opponant during a World Cup final.Quote:
Originally Posted by BawA
More like the 1001st.
As usual, you're full of shit. The award isn't just for technical ability, it's also for sportsmanship. The head-butt alone means that Zidane didn't deserve it. Just like all the general gittery precluded Christiano Ronaldo from getting the young player award.
Zidane has always been cool in the games, never heared or saw him involving in Troubles in the match and just one case doesnt make him what ur preffering to.
FIFA knows better then u or do you think that everything should've be done your way and as u like.
Zidane has been sent off for head-butting before, he's got a pretty volitile temperament, you're excused from not being aware of this because you don't watch much football.Quote:
Originally Posted by BawA
As for FIFA knowing better than I do, journalists voted for this award, so what's your point.
My own was that Ronaldo wasn't considered for the young player award because of his unsportsmanlike behaviour - if the votes had been cast after the final, Zidane would not have won. There's little doubt about that.
The thing is who else really put in 3 or 4 good shifts? He played well against Brazil, Spain and Portugal and had a pretty good game against Italy for 110 minutes. I can't think of anybody else that was really that consistent other than a couple of defenders Miguel of Portugal was good as was the Italian Cavanarro(sp?). I dare say that if the Argentinians had gone all the way then one of their players might have got it.
However, they chose at half time and at that point they made the right choice. Even if they had waited till half time in extra time it would have still been the right choice (cracking header saved by Buffon). So does 10 seconds of mild red mist really negate the choice. If he had really delivered a Glasgow Kiss to the bridge of the nose then maybe :) but the thump to the chest was little more than a bog standard rugby tackle. The chap was up in much quicker time than most of the ordinary tackles in that extra time.
Well, Miguel is a full back and had a fairly okayish tournament but he come nowhere near the level of Cannavaro - or if you want to compare like for like, hasn't been as effective as either of the Italian full backs. Maybe you're thinking of Carvalho, who had an outstanding time in Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
Pirlo has been at the centre of everything good for the Italians and has put himself forward as one of the top four midfielders in the world. His performances have been top notch without reaching the heights Zidane did occasionally.
The reason I say Cannavaro should have won it is because he hasn't had a regular partner in the centre of defence yet has marshalled it superbly. He started with Nesta, who got injured, then steps in Materazzi, who has been fairly inconsistent throughout his career - but was a colossus alongside Cannavaro. He got suspended and then Barzaghli filled in. All the while, Cannavaro has played superbly and organised the other defenders fantastically well.
Zidane has done some good things, obviously, but, as I said, sportsmanship is a big part of the award, therefore the head-butt should preclude him from winning it because he wasn't that much better than his peers to compensate for it.
Hang on a sec ... 'mild red mist'.
Mild? :lol:
I'm glad I didnae play footie with you.