He rawked.
Australia is screwed now :(
Nothing worthwhile left, there.
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He rawked.
Australia is screwed now :(
Nothing worthwhile left, there.
I've been reading a bit about stinrays, barbs, and Irwin's encounter:
I wasn't aware until now that he was actually hit directly in the heart. :O
Deaths are extremely rare from stings it seams, but I guess when a barb with venom puts a hole in your heart, your odds of survival drop to nothing. :ermm:
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Originally Posted by Smith
Well, twice would be the max. However one supposes he would have given up the game had he been dis-armed by an alligator.
I can't believe he was killed by a stingray. Of the things this guy has fucked with....a stingray.Quote:
Originally Posted by muchspl3
I was just petting stingrays (at a stingray farm) when I went on a cruise back in May. I was told that as long as you don't step on one that you were cool.:O
When I went snorkeling, I saw a couple at the bottom of the ocean. I know that sometimes they are under the dirt on the ocean floor and to keep you feet off it.
They had a stingray farm on the cruiseship?:OQuote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
tv kills
Yeah my cruise ship was the shizzle. :snooty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper BoThey had a stingray farm on the cruiseship?:OQuote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
Actually it was on a bike riding excursion on Carnival's island, Half-Moon Cay. (only cost $20)
That reminds me, I need to get those pictures off my memory card.:(
The cheap bastards couldn't afford proper sharks :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper BoThey had a stingray farm on the cruiseship?:OQuote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
It's ironic really- he messes around with some of the deadlest animals on the planet- venomious snakes, sharks, crocodiles, ect, and what kills him is a stingray, which apparently are almost harmless to humans.
Stingray is the common name for any ray which has a poison or barbs on its tail. There are hundreds of species like this. We even have some 40 different species around our own coasts here in Britain. The ones you petted were probably smaller species considering they were in captivity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™I can't believe he was killed by a stingray. Of the things this guy has fucked with....a stingray.Quote:
Originally Posted by muchspl3
I was just petting stingrays (at a stingray farm) when I went on a cruise back in May. I was told that as long as you don't step on one that you were cool.:O
When I went snorkeling, I saw a couple at the bottom of the ocean. I know that sometimes they are under the dirt on the ocean floor and to keep you feet off it.
The one that killed Steve Irwin was, according to some reports, a bull or short tailed sting ray, which is one of the larger species (not as large as a manta though), growing upto 13 or 14 feet. The poison alone from it's sting wouldn't have been fatal though. It was the location in which he was stung. He was swimming above it and it lashed it's tail upwards. There would have been a lot of force behind it's strike hence piercing his heart. He must have been either very very close to it, or handling it for it to get his heart.
These are huge animals but it would have struck out of protection not aggression. Unfortunatly animals can't distinguish between human curiosity and a threat. Stingrays are going to get an undeserved bad press in the near future.
Although I really can't agree with some of his methods there is no doubt that his passion and enthusiasm for the natural world did a lot of good in raising awareness of environmental pressures and wildlife in general. I can't help adding that I don't think this was a man who would have wanted to die in his sleep.
Yeah right, stabbing a man in the heart doesn't deserve a "bad press".
I want to buy it a drink on behalf of all the crocodiles and snakes he molested
i'm lolling like crazy. thanks JP you tit
I saw it on tv so it must be true :cry:!
I never really watched his show but just the fact that he lasted so long doing what he was doing is pretty crazy and makes this day very sad.
If an evil maverick rogue Stingray maliciously cornered him and stabbed him then yes. A Stingray doing what Stingrays do, and with him in full awareness of the risk, then no. It would have been one slash of the tail, and not normally fatal. This was an unlucky shot and a tragedy for his him and his family. But he was aware of the risks.
More people are killed by vending machines in a year than are by sharks, or in this case, their cousins.
I read that only ever been 3 deaths like it in Aussie history,
unlucky i say... :-(
One would venture that the vending machines had no actual part to play in the decision making process. However I am far from being an expert on the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrabGirl
I didn't say murdered, or intentionally killed. A person can be killed by a dead duck falling from the sky or by lightning. The duck or weather event didn't intentionally mean to kill the person but it still occured. People shake vending machines when they don't release the confectionary of choice, the vending machine then falls on the shaker and kills them. No decision-making needed. The person still died. Cause of death, vending machine.
Proper sharks with freakin' laserbeams attached to their freakin' heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnYThe cheap bastards couldn't afford proper sharks :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Proper Bo
On topic - I did read somewhere earlier today that stingrays flicking their tail up and stinging someone is an involuntary reflex.
:cry: I felt a pang of sadness when I heard but i also kept laughing everytime I heard the story on the news:unsure: he had an unparallelled zest for life and its a shame that its reached its inevitable end.
When my friends bring their kids round and they bug the hell out of my cat by pulling her ears and tail I tell them that if they annoy her she will hurt them. Apprently no-one ever imparted that invaluble advise to Stevie
RIP
Indeed and the ray stabbed him in the heart. It wasn't an inanimate object, like a vending machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrabGirl
Your analogy is flawed. A ray is not the same as a vending machine. A ray is a living creature, a vending machine is a vegetable.
The point was that the ray struck him out of defence, because it felt threatened. He may have been doing nothing wrong, just been in a position which caused the ray distress. He was killed by a ray, but the killing wasn't the rays fault. Steve obviously thought the risks were worth taking, and in this case he was wrong. He was actually out there filming a program on Tiger Sharks, which come second to the Great White in fatal human interactions. Ironic really.
Thus the "don't step on one" rule applies. At the stingray farm, as soon you step foot in the shallow water, they start a comin' like cats wanting to be petted.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizoProper sharks with freakin' laserbeams attached to their freakin' heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnnY
On topic - I did read somewhere earlier today that stingrays flicking their tail up and stinging someone is an involuntary reflex.
It was quite nice for a bike excursion along an island beach for a mere 20 bones.:dabs:
Utter rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agrajag
:pinch:
thats what makes him a good guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Mulder
THERE IS FILM OF IT...
taken from SMH.com.au
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...222098946.html
Irwin death footage 'terrible'
The underwater video footage of Steve Irwin's death after he was speared in the chest by a stingray was "shocking" his manager reportedly said today.
John Stainton told reporters the footage, which he had handed to police, was the worst thing he had ever seen, Sydney's 2GB radio reported this morning.
"I have seen the footage and it's shocking," Mr Stainton said.
"It's a very hard thing to watch because you're watching somebody die and it's terrible."
Mr Stainton, also a producer and director of Irwin's popular television shows, said the footage showed Mr Irwin pulling the barb out of his chest before losing consciousness.
'The tail came up'
"It shows that Steve came over the top of the ray and the tail came up, and spiked him here (in the chest), and he pulled it out and the next minute he's gone.
"That was it. The cameraman had to shut down."
Mr Stainton, who was aboard Mr Irwin's vessel Croc One when the tragedy occurred, said it was likely the television star and naturalist died almost immediately as a result of the stingray's blow.
"(He was) probably a metre coming over the top of it," he said.
"He was underwater. I think, and the coroner's report will say what happened, but I think he died fairly instantly."
Mr Stainton said he was still in disbelief that a stingray could claim his close friend's life.
"He was always on the precipice," he said.
"He always pushed himself to the very limits but I thought he was invulnerable and I think he did too.
..as for if there are any arsehole aussies who are gonna release it, who knows
apparently it's up to his wife if the show that he was filming airs or not, same for the footage of him getting stabbed
Steve Irwin was/is a good, really funny, croc-savvy guy. It is damn crikey, all this story about him. When i watched him, it was like watching a crocodile puppet show with funny accent. He was always telling the dangerous animals to come down and to relax while he can play with em. He done many things, not just as crocodile hunter. They filmed him on every move, everywhere he went, he explored those chock-a-blocked holes with grumpy snakes and other extremly deadly reptiles that just waited for their piece of meat. He survived many deadly rip snorters, but i though that his little bottler would be on the menue before him.
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Originally Posted by muchspl3
Well, he died doing what he loved and death was almost instantaneous. We should all be so lucky. :(
He is now dead for real it seems, sting ray aimed at his heart they say :O . Didn't know those things were soo deadly, its really sad. The video disapeared somehow, anybody knows where i can find it ?
The video has been swagged by the police for the inquestQuote:
Originally Posted by limesqueezer
R I P steve you will be missed
Damn heared about this, RIP Steve Irwin
What a bitch. :dry:
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SYDNEY, Australia (CNN) -- Comments by academic Germaine Greer on the death of wildlife TV star Steve Irwin have triggered a storm of anger with the Australian author criticized for being "insensitive" and "elitist."
Greer, best known for her feminist book "The Female Eunuch", said Wednesday Irwin was an "embarrassment" and a "self-deluded animal torturer."
Irwin, who gained international fame for his "Crocodile Hunter" TV series, was killed Monday by a stingray barb while filming a wildlife documentary.
Speaking on Australian TV Channel Nine's "A Current Affair" news program Wednesday, Greer described those who mourned Irwin's passing as "idiots" and said possibly millions of Australians were embarrassed by him.
Greer said Irwin had not treated animals with the respect they deserved.
"He would tell you how dangerous they were and he would proceed to intrude on their space and humiliate (them) really -- treat them with massive insensitivity," she said. "It's no surprise he came to grief."
Greer's views, first aired in Britain's Guardian newspaper on Tuesday, have drawn a sharp response in Australia from politicians and commentators.
Queensland state leader Peter Beattie told Greer to "back off" and labeled her comments "stupid" and "insensitive."
"Germaine Greer is just wrong and I just can't imagine anyone being more insensitive and, frankly, stupid," he said Thursday.
"This argument is just extreme radical rubbish from Germaine Greer and it couldn't come at a more insensitive time.
"Any suggestion that he (Irwin) mistreated animals is just rubbish ... he educated a generation."
Author John Birmingham, writing in The Australian newspaper Thursday, called Greer's comments "a poisonous discharge of bile" which encapsulated the views of a "whole class of Australian sophisticates" who felt uncomfortable with Irwin's global celebrity.
Greer is a frequent critic of personalities like British soccer star David Beckham and social trends like reality television, although she herself appeared briefly in Britain's Celebrity Big Brother series.
I had to go to one her lectures a couple of years ago for my degree, she bored me to fucking tears. If there was any justice in the world she would get violated by a flock of stingrays.
I absolutely detest that ugly harpy, even more so now.