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I rarely use kazaa anymore due to too many fakes and lamers. have a nice day.
There's no point trying to block somebodys IP address if their on dial-up because the IP address constantly changes. Infact it sometimes changes if your on broadband as well.
Its a bit of an extream method just to block somebody out. It would be better if everybody required an individual username to use kazaa and then we could just choose to ignore individuals like in messenger programs. I doubt that's ever going to happen though. :D
Because some are idiots thats why they don't share, and some others have obvious reasons since Kazaa takes up to many resources and some have slow computers but fast connections.
I totaly agree with the fact that if you're using a filesharing programm, you should share files (that's the basic thing isn't it).
But, once in my life I was a newbee and downloaded KaZaA (not lite) and they were just beginning to introduce the participation level principle. I shared a lot of MP3's but not a lot of people like the music I like, so after downloading a while my participation level decreased rapidly and at the point you reahc a very low figure, you're alwasy denied or queud.
So if we want to tackle the problem of leeches, we'll have to solve this problem as well, because the K-lite users are the minority of the KaZaA world of sharing.
BTW: In the Netherlands every ISP accepts that you download and upload, although some of them restrict downloading e.g 2Gb a month.
Actually I think there are quite a lot of k-lite users. I would probably estimate that around half maybe slightly less? are using a version of kazaa (and some k-lite versions) that gives high participation level users priority on downloading stuff.Quote:
So if we want to tackle the problem of leeches, we'll have to solve this problem as well, because the K-lite users are the minority of the KaZaA world of sharing.
I think the other 50% maybe more are using a version of k-lite that it doesn't matter what your participation level is or Grokster, fileshare or maybe even an older version of kazaa.
BTW didn't expect this many responses!
here's a thought. Mabye people with small connections dont share their files, because it takes up more space on their bandwidth of what their downloading. as for myself, with the small connection i have, i share anyways. that is of course if kazaa will connect. *waits for hours*
yeah keep sharing....
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you get the idea......
my connection is broadband, i generally turn off sharing, download all the files that i want. then put sharing on letting them have the benefit of better bandwith.....but i allways share :D
Hi, I've been using kazaa for a good 3 years now (used Bearshare before !!), the last year and a half I've had 576/356kb broadband connection. I am now sharing around 50Gb of music, dvd-rips and software. OK-TO THE POINT ;
When I check if someone is sharing I ask them this ;
"Are you new to kazaa"...wait for reply....act accordingly...then if answer is NO
"Are you using a privacy patch"..if they say NO !!!, and No to the first question I note their IP..
.I then do a DOS-NET SEND message to them ..warning them to share or ELSE I will wreck his computer and fu*k his life up !!..this usaully works I guess (but then again I never check up on them)...P.S. that doesn't mean I wont hack you you scum sucking miserable LEECHERS !!!
I HATE LEECHERS....but I do understand the use of a privacy patch (hey I even use it every now and then when I feel paranoid..lol)
I only block for an hour or 2, so they can TRY to log off and log back on and hunt for me again... but because my KL++ is behind a firewalled router -- they need to get lucky and hit the exact same supernode again... AND hope I don't see them. :PQuote:
Originally posted by LINDOREZ@28 May 2003 - 11:55
There's no point trying to block somebodys IP address if their on dial-up because the IP address constantly changes. Infact it sometimes changes if your on broadband as well.
Its a bit of an extream method just to block somebody out. It would be better if everybody required an individual username to use kazaa and then we could just choose to ignore individuals like in messenger programs. I doubt that's ever going to happen though. :D
I don't bother dial-up users so much because their download speeds are so pathetic.
I've even told one particularly belligerent leech (he cussed me out 3 times in a row for 'bugging him' and there was more or less nothing I could do to him because Kazaa would just force a reconnect) what his ip and DNS info was and told him he had <1 minute before I put a denial of service on his ass. (The ip block was the 'denial of service', but I implied it like it was some sort of supercoolfunkyhackershit DoS attack.) :ph34r:
He thought I was going to blast his connection and kick him off the fasttrack/Kazaa network.
I ended up talking him into at least sharing for a short bit. :D
I don't need any more tools to be/seem evil while using KL++... just a little creativity with what I got. B)
totally easy solution for people who don't want leeches to DL from them on FastTrack.
if using Kazaa or K-lite:
1. press ALT
2. press F
3. press E
4. leeches are gone!
:sleeping:Quote:
totally easy solution for people who don't want leeches to DL from them on FastTrack.
if using Kazaa or K-lite:
1. press ALT
2. press F
3. press E
4. leeches are gone!
QUESTION: What do you call a P2P program where people don't share
ANSWER: KaZaa
SOLUTION: I am glad that you are trying to save a sinking ship, but why? Is it because of all the great times you had with that whore bitch, KaZaa, well her t**s are starting to sag and her p**s is loose. :lol: :lol:
You can talk, bitch, and moan, but things are getting worse quickly. The solution could have been brought about from Sharman, though I wonder if they even care.
I am just saying l :( :( k around, "the writing is on the wall", and I'm not happy about it at all. I am not interested in waiting a week to get a file while my ul slots are running non stop.
The great thing about filesharing is not just to download a rare file but to upload it and knowing that in doing this there's now this one more possibility for others to enjoy what you yourself had such a hard time getting in the first place. I feel sorry for people who don't have the abilily to feel joy in sharing. Thanks to everyone who shares with me!!!!!! :D
Couldn't have said it better :)
well, interesting reading and all valid points (regarding the need to share, 56k users, etc.). :)
here's an idea to improve the situation- i.e. improving speeds and file availability, maybe it sounds like a bit of twisted logic but how about this:
I'm sure there are people who already do this but anyway... If people on fast connections (broadband, dsl, cable etc.) limit their upload slots to like 2 or 3 then downloaders will have faster speeds and therefore complete the download sooner which means they can start sharing the file sooner. I think this would be a good idea because Kazaa only downloads from complete files, not partials.
Personally, I'm on a 56k. I used to have 3 upload slots and each user downloading off me got a speed of about 0.8 - 1.0 kb/s. Then after a while I thought I'd do a little tweaking and set the upload limit to 1 upload at a time. Then the user downloading off me got around 3 to 3.5 kb/s, which I'm sure you'll agree is a slightly more practical speed for someone to download at.
So the idea of users limiting the number of concurrent uploads could benefit everyone. Large files like movies could be shared faster since there would be a steady increase in the number of sources, instead of having to wait for groups of people to eventually acquire the complete file after a long while.
Anyway, so what do you guys think about this theory? Am I crazy? :blink:
P.S. just to avoid any misunderstanding, I want to make clear that I'm NOT telling people to stop sharing and I am NOT trying to suggest that people should share less.
You're not crazy -- everyone else is... and they're out to get you too! :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by immortal_phoenix@31 May 2003 - 10:42
I'm sure there are people who already do this but anyway... If people on fast connections (broadband, dsl, cable etc.) limit their upload slots to like 2 or 3 then downloaders will have faster speeds and therefore complete the download sooner which means they can start sharing the file sooner. I think this would be a good idea because Kazaa only downloads from complete files, not partials.
Personally, I'm on a 56k. I used to have 3 upload slots and each user downloading off me got a speed of about 0.8 - 1.0 kb/s. Then after a while I thought I'd do a little tweaking and set the upload limit to 1 upload at a time. Then the user downloading off me got around 3 to 3.5 kb/s, which I'm sure you'll agree is a slightly more practical speed for someone to download at.
So the idea of users limiting the number of concurrent uploads could benefit everyone. Large files like movies could be shared faster since there would be a steady increase in the number of sources, instead of having to wait for groups of people to eventually acquire the complete file after a long while.
Anyway, so what do you guys think about this theory? Am I crazy? :blink:
P.S. just to avoid any misunderstanding, I want to make clear that I'm NOT telling people to stop sharing and I am NOT trying to suggest that people should share less.
It's almost sad or amazing that 3 uploads at 0.8-1.0 kb/s doesn't even add up to 3 kb/s total -- while the 1 by itself could reach 3-3.5 kb/s.
The problem with broadband using only 2-3 max uploads is they get 'tied up' with 56k's downloading from them and end up wasting much of their upload bandwidth while they do. With shared whole CD's, tv shows, and movies, this is especially bad -- because the bandwidth waste might be 8 hours straight or more. And it's not just 56k's that often download at pathetic <1.5 kb/s speeds! I've seen numerous cable users and even T-1/T-3 connections which get that speed -- due to their ISP throttling Kazaa and/or due to their Kazaa settings. They often compensate for their slow downloads by setting their max downloads to 30+ -- so it's not just 1 of your upload slots they're likely to tie up when they download from you! :o
The problem is SO severe that I state almost the ONLY people who download faster than 5 kb/s are LEECHES. This isn't true of course, but some days it sure seems so.
And it's because the default settings of regular Kazaa are (or were) horrid -- with unlimited uploads, unlimited upload bandwidth, AND "optimal bandwidth while idle" (wreck-your-connection-mode) enabled.
But reducing the number of max upload to only 3 max (or 1 for 56k's) for everyone would reduce the number of sources available if everyone did it. You'd be less likely to get an immediate but very slow download and more likely to end up remotely queued. And it would benefit leeches more, because they could better utilize the extra speeds.
I only have 2 upload slots open so you guys can get my files at around 25.00kb/s each ;)
But in return my downloads are around 2.25kb/s on average :(
and thats if i can find a source to download from.
Gee, I feel all FUZZY inside. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by spocko@31 May 2003 - 15:04
The great thing about filesharing is not just to download a rare file but to upload it and knowing that in doing this there's now this one more possibility for others to enjoy what you yourself had such a hard time getting in the first place. I feel sorry for people who don't have the abilily to feel joy in sharing. Thanks to everyone who shares with me!!!!!! :D
i cant share for that long because i have a 2 gig upload cap from my isp i usually stop sharing after 3 weeks
At the moment I have 2 upload slots open but usually I have it set at 3 (never have it at more than 4). The only thing is 1 user will get a decent speed (usually around 17-30) while the other uploaders will get bad speeds of around 5 or less. :( Oh well at least you're getting something.
But I do feel like there is something wrong when a user gets a good speed and when I do a search on them I see nothing, but when I do a seach on the uploaders with a worse speed they are sharing files.
Anyway at least I can actually get good speeds when downloading :) . Although when I am downloading something 'rare' it can go at about 2kbps, I had a file last week going at 0.87 with 3 users <<<<WTF.
BTW I'm on k-lite 1.7.2 now.
they may have the option selected to not show their shared files....its only a thought...but if ya havent used the newer versions of klite then you wouldnt know about this option...Quote:
Originally posted by loz@31 May 2003 - 23:24
But I do feel like there is something wrong when a user gets a good speed and when I do a search on them I see nothing,
I dont share because I dont feel obligated to. I cancel all downloads and quickly move the files away. The main reason is orginization. Nothing last more than 2 days on my computer I quickly burn everything to DVD-R. Im a media whore I leave my computer on 24/7 and d/l hundreds of files at a time. I have a Program to move them as soon as they are complete. You can hate me all you want and flame me all you want but that still wont change anything. I dont believe in sharing I only take and I have full right to do so.
^_^x
1. because they are just leacher
2. because paranoid
3. same reason, just a leacher and will always be a leacher.
Amen. :(
You will change your way of thinking when i track your IP down, if you think it cant be traced through this forum, guess again..... :lol: :o :huh: :blink: :(Quote:
Originally posted by Battousai 1983@1 June 2003 - 10:17
I dont share because I dont feel obligated to. I cancel all downloads and quickly move the files away. The main reason is orginization. Nothing last more than 2 days on my computer I quickly burn everything to DVD-R. Im a media whore I leave my computer on 24/7 and d/l hundreds of files at a time. I have a Program to move them as soon as they are complete. You can hate me all you want and flame me all you want but that still wont change anything. I dont believe in sharing I only take and I have full right to do so.
^_^x
RUN BEFORE THEY BEAT YOU SENSELESS!!.Quote:
Originally posted by Battousai 1983@1 June 2003 - 10:17
I dont share because I dont feel obligated to. I cancel all downloads and quickly move the files away. The main reason is orginization. Nothing last more than 2 days on my computer I quickly burn everything to DVD-R. Im a media whore I leave my computer on 24/7 and d/l hundreds of files at a time. I have a Program to move them as soon as they are complete. You can hate me all you want and flame me all you want but that still wont change anything. I dont believe in sharing I only take and I have full right to do so.
^_^x
I gotta admit your too funny, you should start a post with that attitude, it would be a nut house...
all though here come the TR :angry: :angry: PS.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I've just stopped sharing...Why? because I realised its benificial to me not to share. I've been using Kazaa/Kazaalite/K-lite for a while now and I use it to obtain files I want to get. There is nothing more annoying than trying to download something and people jamming up your connection by downloading things from you (even if you limit the download space to just one it still effects it and trying to cancel them just means they reconnect). I used to share everything I downloaded but I've gradually closed down my files (starting with the largest and working my way down) until I got fed up and just stopped all of them.
:( You feel no obligation to share.... well maybe I shoudn't share and maybe I should tell everyone else there is no need to share anything, lets see how long the network will last then, cmon what's up with you, you only take- how do you think you managed to get the files it wasn't because of leechers like you.Quote:
I dont share because I dont feel obligated to. ...I dont believe in sharing I only take and I have full right to do so.
:( It's times like this when you think about going to look for a new network...
SeK612 what type of connection do you have?
/me yawns
And I share because it is beneficial for me to share -- whenever I find a fast upload, I check to see if that person is sharing files *I'm* interested in -- because if so, they have a better-than-average chance of giving me a decent download speed. I let those with similar interests find MY files so I can find theirs.
SeK612 and others, you do realize that if you don't limit the number of shared files (about 500 max or even fewer popular files) AND limit the upload bandwidth (unlimited speed and unlimited number is for unlimited connections -- I haven't seen many) you can EXPECT slowdowns. But if you do put in reasonable limits KL++ can share and you'll never see an appreciable difference unless you're on a slower 56k.
Iok lets all do what u do and take ur advice hmmmm..... how many files would u then be able to dl...... ill tell ya 0Quote:
dont share because I dont feel obligated to. I cancel all downloads and quickly move the files away. The main reason is orginization. Nothing last more than 2 days on my computer I quickly burn everything to DVD-R. Im a media whore I leave my computer on 24/7 and d/l hundreds of files at a time. I have a Program to move them as soon as they are complete. You can hate me all you want and flame me all you want but that still wont change anything. I dont believe in sharing I only take and I have full right to do so.
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You will change your way of thinking when i track your IP down, if you think it cant be traced through this forum, guess again.....
Good Luck :lol: :lol:
i share but what i whont to know why share i mean we have kazaa lite our participation level stays at 1000 why share i donot know why i share but i am going to stop may be i donot know pm me tell me why i have to share if it is good i will still share
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i share but what i whont to know why share i mesn we have kazaa lite our participation level stays at 1000 why share i donot know why i share but i am going to stop may be i donot know pm tell me why i have to share if it is good i will still share and donot give me non of that talking about kazaa lite is nothing with out chareing non of that
wtf :huh: :huh:
who taught u english???? :P
sorry i type to fast
why??Quote:
Originally posted by loz@31 May 2003 - 22:24
BTW I'm on k-lite 1.7.2 now.
:flame: :flame: :spam: :spam: :lol: :P :D :P :lol:
I have a 56K connection (and always have). I've tried limiting the download speed but people still manage to get high speeds of me. Its just annoying when your on Kazaa to get a file, which takes ages as it is, and you cannot stop people from downloading from you (and extending your download time by hours) without removing popular files from your list.Quote:
SeK612 what type of connection do you have?
I wouldn't say I'm a leecher. I'm happy to let people download things from me so long as its not at the same time I'm downloading something (which is all the time I have Kazaa running :) )
:lol:Quote:
I wouldn't say I'm a leecher. I'm happy to let people download things from me so long as its not at the same time I'm downloading something (which is all the time I have Kazaa running )
I'm on 1.7.2 because I like it better than the new versions :)
I don't get it! It seems like some people has no life and use all their time staring at Kazaa. I work all day, come home turn on Kazaa observe that some people are uploading and I am if I'm lucky downloading, I have the privacy patch so some people might choose not to share with me even though in reality I share quite a lot. There are so many interresting things you can spend your time doing, Kazaa should not be your whole life, I mean I'm surprised at the time and effort people use investigating if people are sharing or not. Face it, someone who behaves as battousai 1983 you can only feel sorry for I'm sure he has the same problem as the tinman from the wizzard of Oz!
:D :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes: ;)