Haha, you just hate being wrong, don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
Did you get bullied at school too? :lol:
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Haha, you just hate being wrong, don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
Did you get bullied at school too? :lol:
Ok in his thread I posted a link for how much the royals cost the UK (2005) the figures I believe are heavily massaged anyway to make them look better, but none the less, that's why I said they are parasites and I still stand by this statement. They are a drain on society and thus are parasites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
"No but, yeah but no but yeah but no"....Ahh shut up! :ph34r:
You and yer bumchum Capt. Pedantic over in dictionary corner can argue otherwise, so where's YOUR chaps proof to say that they aren't parasites? Oh yeah back to better business links and tourism again!? Well since I've had to repeat myself again, I'll do it once more: lets give it a try! Get rid of them and see what happens..It's truly the only way to prove this argument, and like I predicted we wouldn't see eye to eye, I'm happy that we can agree to disagree. Now go away and search google for something to back up your claim, then I can laugh and say "so fuck, they are still parasites!" :yup: But I think we can go round in circles here.
So if it's victory you so crave, it's all yours my English friend, but I'll tell you what you can do with you dodgy figures and per capita subsidies as well. Shove them up your arse! :blink: Also it's your "we should be grateful" attitude that alienates you even further, we don't wan't nor ask for your help, keep your money, and your false wars and 'your' PARASITIC Royal family and yer Morris Dancing gimps.
Just think, with Scotland out the way you would have more money to build a giant rollercoaster / business centre in the grounds of Buckingham Palace!
Oh and good luck in your quest for an OBE. :noes:
Learn to read, because now you look stupid, I posted the proof, you just chose to ignore it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colt Seevers
Go and Google 'Crown Estates'. This is a company that runs the estates owned by the Queen. ALL the money earned from all her properties and businesses are paid to the government. In 2005, the year you gave figures for the cost of the Royal Family, the Crown Estates paid £180,000,000 to the government, far more than the government gives back. So your pathetic argument is blown right out of the water.
I hope you get your independence, the English will be far better off not paying dole money to you and all your mates.
Of course the article by the BBC news is pointing to the cost of official duties and trips as ambassadors for the uk......you know....work. By this standard anyone in the foriegn office is a parasite. colt seems to suggest all they do is sit at home or go on personal junkets.
Forget the trade they bring to the country, forget the tourism they bring, what about the employment the royal estates produce?
He hates them, pure and simple,I get it. So he wants to throw around inaccurate descriptions and straw man arguments. Perhaps it's jealousy, one can only guess, but his hatred is so hot he doesn't care if his description is true or not, only that it's sounds as bad as possible. He can't even offer an argument to justify why he thinks the description applies without name calling.
He may not like the royal family, he may not like what they do for the money, he may think he could live without their contributions, but that doesn't come under the meaning of the word parasite.
As I said there are plenty of ways to accurately show the basis for his jealousy and contempt for their privileged life but parasite is inaccurate.
Wow you just keep on with being stupid....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava EstelleHaha, you just hate being wrong, don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Busyman™
Did you get bullied at school too? :lol:
Ok I'll indulge.
Wrong about what, leftism?
The fella joined up, there's no conscription. He has done his training, at Sandhurst and his unit is being deployed.
Why is this even a talking point. Of course he should go where his troops are going.
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
....... and as some wags have suggested - it is only right that he should follow his father's footsteps in the ArmyQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Major Hewitt that is :)
Edit: Isn't it sweet that Royalty's main defenders are people who live in countries who have as little to do with Royalty as possible.
Oh I think that generally the royals are spoiled, privileged, often given unearned respect, extravagant, overpaid for what they do etc. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
I just don't think the word parasite is justified.
Who's defending the Queen of Australia? Me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
I was merely pointing out the inaccuracies in people's posts.
I think (for no particularly good reason) that the bulk of Australians would happily lose the monarchy as their head of state. As indeed would most other people. As I have said before I believe that in the 21st century it's an anachronism, the fact that people as considered subjects rather than citizens.
Let's be honest here, the best thing Americans ever did was say "Fuck that, I'm not your subject I'm a free man."
With regard to what they pay in, it's not that long ago that her majesty actually started paying tax. Prior to that she was exempt. A bit ridiculous for one of the wealthiest women in the World.
With regard to the Crown Estate. I would hope that, as and when we get rid of the monarchy we also say "No, actually that property belongs to the people of the UK. So we're keeping it. Please feel free to go back to Germany from whence you came".
In the 1999 referendum 65% of Australians voted to keep the monarchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
I think that there is very little German blood left in the 'Line' now. More English, Scottish*, Greek etc. this is on the assumption that Charles is the boys father.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
I am counting Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon as of Scottish descent.:)
Cheers for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava EstelleIn the 1999 referendum 65% of Australians voted to keep the monarchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Couple of points, was it 65% of Australians or 65% of those who could be arsed voting. I believe the Australians are quite Draconian in their views on voting but maybe that's a misconception.
And also, they haven't exactly continued to cover themselves in glory during the intervening 7 or 8 years. One is reminded of Nazi uniforms and the like.
Voting is compulsory in Australia, including referendums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
ahaha you actually did go and do what i said, *claps* well done smacktard! Yes, their, ESTATES, now get rid of the royalty but keep the tourist attractions. LOL SO FUCK THEY ARE PARASITES! :w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
Stop running into my fist!
Oh aye and Capt Pedantic if you think members of the royal family actually work for a living you are living in some kinda alternate universe were you dont ken what real work is. :ermm: A couple of loyalist idiots from the colonies. :frusty:
Are you really that thick, or is this just an act?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colt Seevers
You've been proved wrong, shown up, shot down, and made to look illiterate and stupid, yet you come back claiming some sort of victory ... classic! :lol:
The Queen's 'job' is head of state, for which she carried out over 500 official duties last year, more work than you've done since you left borstal! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Colt Seevers
That's what I thought. Didn't know it counted for referenda tho'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava EstelleVoting is compulsory in Australia, including referendums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
The bottom line is we don't need them for anything and they are an affront to any nation which describes itself a democracy. I feel the same for hereditary peers btw.
In fact they're worse because they actually have power.
The Queen is one of the richest people in the world. The pro-royal Mail on Sunday did a special investigation into her wealth last year. It argued that previous estimates had badly understated how rich she was. It reckoned her private wealth was £1.15 billion, not counting royal palaces, art collections and the like.
The Queen personally owns:She also gets an annual income of £7.3 million from the lands and investments of the Duchy of Lancaster.
- Property worth £61 million, as well as official residences like Balmoral, worth £4 million. She also owns a stud farm near Newbury and a deer forest in the Highlands.
- Racehorses worth £3.6 million.
- Stamps worth £102 million. Her stamp collection is a bit bigger than most. It is kept in 300 albums and 200 boxes.
- Jewels worth £72 million. The most valuable are the 105 Cullinan diamonds, cut from what was the world's biggest diamond.
- Furs worth £1 million. The queen has 30 luxury furs in special refrigerated storage units at Buckingham Palace.
- Cars worth £7.1 million.
- Wine worth £2 million.
When the queen first came to the throne 50 years ago she cut a nice deal with then prime minister Winston Churchill. It means she is the only person in the country able to reclaim tax on dividends and interest from investments in British companies. That has netted her around £1 billion.
The Earl and Countess of Wessex are "retiring" from their business ventures.
They won't be short of money though. They will get £249,000 a year from public funds via the "civil list". And they will still live at their 57-room Surrey mansion which costs the public £250,000 a year to maintain.
The rest of the queen's family are just as parasitical and nearly as rich as her. Prince Charles has a personal wealth of around £346 million. The Queen Mother was worth around £53 million when she died recently. Prince Philip is worth £28 million in his own right.
Prince William already has £22 million stashed away and his younger brother, Harry, is even richer, with £25 million in his royal piggy bank.
The Queen gets massive handouts from public funds. Last year her "official" expenditure, funded by us, was £35 million.. She gets £7.9 million a year directly from public funds on the "civil list". As well as land she owns personally she also owns the "crown estate" through her position as sovereign.
This includes 120,000 hectares of agricultural land and the entire seabed around Britain. The crown estate produced £147.7 million profit last year. The queen's palaces at Balmoral in Scotland and Sandringham in Norfolk are her private property. But as queen she also has at her disposal Buckingham Palace, St James's Palace, Kensington Palace and Windsor Castle.
If all you have left to defend you position is personal insults and questioning my education, then I think the drawing room isn't for you.
See that's my point about the Crown Estate. It's not the person who personally owns the property. Its the position of sovereign. At least that's my understanding.
So if that were abolished then the properties would no longer be owned by anyone and would be returned to the people who really own them. Us.
Haha! Who's a jealous little Jock then? You really are pathetic, are you jealous of everyone with more money than you, or just the Royal Family?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colt Seevers
Let's hear your opinion of Bill Gates. :lol:
I hope that Scotland becomes independent and 'drops' the idea of Royalty. As it stands then we have to accept the Status Quo. I also hope that an independent Scotland would not allow any political 'sway' to any of the various religions. People of whatever religion have a vote like the rest of us and should be content with that. Representatives should be elected in a general election. As it stands at the moment we have non elected peers and religious 'dignitaries' and 'toadies' with a vote in the House Of Lords.:(
Fixed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava EstelleIn the 1999 referendum 65% of Australians voted to keep the monarchy in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Not sure what you mean there. Or are you being a wee bit facetious..Quote:
Originally Posted by BigglesFixed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ava Estelle
:whistling Moi?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP FugleyNot sure what you mean there. Or are you being a wee bit facetious..Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles