Uh-huh. Saddam was always an equal opportunity kinda guy. Now THAT I'd find dubious. B)Quote:
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She could have been there to add a feminine perspective?
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Uh-huh. Saddam was always an equal opportunity kinda guy. Now THAT I'd find dubious. B)Quote:
clocker wrote:
She could have been there to add a feminine perspective?
There is no doubt that SH was very interested in WMD and his power/leverage was certainly increased by the perception that he actually had them.
Isn't it possible he was bluffing? It worked for 12 years.
He was a world class shithead, isn't it conceivable that he was a high stakes gambler also? Playing right into our deepest fears right up til the time his house of cards came tumbling down.
And he may still be playing.
Along with OBL he does seem to have pulled a Houdini...
Saddam Hussein was a "user." When people were no longer needed, they were purged ... or at least purged from his inner circle. Even Tariq Aziz was not in Saddam's inner circle ... and before "Baghdad Bob," he was Saddam's #1 mouthpiece. I don't think he was bluffing. And, I think Dr. Germ was in his inner circle for reasons other than her feminine charms.
I think Bush will certainly use that as a reason for keeping a presence in the region. But honestly, with his entire regime in disarray (and a lot of his money destined to leave the country seized), I think he's simply chosen to retire as comfortably as he can. With the Kurds and Shias asserting themselves now, I don't think he has the chance of a snowflake in Hell of regaining a foothold in Iraq.Quote:
And he may still be playing.
And, like I said, the WMD "fat lady" hasn't sung itself out just yet. UNMOVIC and UNSCOM are eager to get back into the country. And, I suspect Bush isn't all that against them coming.
P.S. If you haven't seen the film, rent "Uncle Saddam" from your local video store. It's a very eye-opening documentary on Saddam Hussein ... done by a French filmmaker.
Which brings up another point-
batten the hatches, I'm on a roll!
Where the hell is Osama Bin Laden?
In the months following 9/11 ObL became the poster boy for terrorism, the living embodiment of evil and all that threatened the American Way of Life. We weren't going to rest til he was brought to justice!
Now the war on terror is "bigger than one man" and we shouldn't really concentrate on OBL but rather the larger picture.
Bull!
Bush is so fond of the trappings of the Tough Guy ( flight suits/ fighter jets/carrier landings), he likes to stick out his chin and play the part- time to sh*t or get off the pot.
bin Laden in Syria? Send in a couple of divisions and drag his ass OUT.
In Tripoli? Ditto.
Peking? Same.
Wherever he is, whoever is protecting him, no matter the expenditure in manpower, money or political good will- irrelevant.
Go get the sob.
For Pete's sake just for once follow through on something, finish it and damn the consequences.
Then he still may be an asshole, but he'd be a determined asshole.
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OTD, I believe it is your serve.
I do believe Clocker is on a quasi-rant, he's cussin' and whatnot.
At some point the sinking of the Lusitania and the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand need to be worked in here.
On a different note- Yes Clocker, that is HIM, beyond a shadow of a doubt. I found a post explaining the difference between irony and sarcasm which was eerily familiar.
hobbes, you are a bloody psychic.Quote:
Originally posted by hobbes@30 May 2003 - 21:35
On a different note- Yes Clocker, that is HIM, beyond a shadow of a doubt. I found a post explaining the difference between irony and sarcasm which was eerily familiar.
I was just looking at that same post, pondering the odds that two people would say the same thing.
If he lets a "can't be arsed" slip then the package is sealed.
OMG, He walks among us!
Beardless, wearing an Armani suit, and living in the Karachi Hilton under the name, Jack Armstrong.Quote:
clocker wrote:
Where the hell is Osama Bin Laden?
Sounds like a good idea to me. But, in the meantime, we're IMHO about to witness a couple of implosions. Saudi Arabia is on the verge of revolution ... but not a unified revolution. We've picked a good time to pull out. There are a whole bunch of radical mullahs, all of whom (1) want the whole country for themselves, (2) want to drag it back to the 13th Century, and (3) see OBL as part of the problem -- not part of the solution. In fact, he and his brothers (rich businessmen) are seen as traitors to the "old" way. Don't get me wrong. OBL is popular ... among Pakistani Muslims, Philippine Muslims, Indonesian Muslims, Nigerian Muslims, Palestinian Muslims, French (yes) Muslims ... but only ONE pro-OBL rally has been held among his own people in Saudi Arabia since 9/11 -- in Mecca (and it was so small even the mainstream media didn't report it). In short, being against the Saudi Royal Family doesn't equate to being in love with OBL ... and once the dust is settled in the post-Royal Saudi Arabia, his brothers will either be dead or in hiding ... and there won't be any welcome mat for him.Quote:
For Pete's sake just for once follow through on something, finish it and damn the consequences.
The second implosion will come in Iran ... and not due to any tough rhetoric from Bush (or Putin ... who recently stood behind Bush to blast Iran for Hezbollah interference in Iraq). The implosion will come from the overwheming majority of people who (1) are under 35, and (2) are sick and tired of strict Muslim authority. In a country where satellite TV is banned, literally every rooftop of every building in Tehran has at least one dish on it ... pointed toward NITV, a station broadcasting from Santa Clara, California and run by Iranian dissidents in exile. ABC mentioned them in a PrimeTime special they did last year called, "The Many Faces of Iran." In short, Iran's biggest enemy isn't the USA ... it's their own young adult population who are no less angry now than their parents were when Khomeni took power from the Shah.
Serve returned, in a way. Please forgive me if I don't rant further tonight, though. Hehe, I have to get some sleep if I'm going to go to (ahem) work.Quote:
Hobbes wrote:
OTD, I believe it is your serve.
What does IMHO stand for?
In My HOuse, I think, but that is only in my humble opinion.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@31 May 2003 - 05:37
What does IMHO stand for?
september 11 probably wasnt by the US (but techniccally it was)
i think the bali bomb and the attack on that french oil tanker were
WHY?Quote:
september 11 probably wasnt by the US (but techniccally it was)
Really.Quote:
i think the bali bomb and the attack on that french oil tanker were
Reasoning, please.
bin laden worked for the USQuote:
Originally posted by clocker@31 May 2003 - 17:02
WHY?Quote:
september 11 probably wasnt by the US (but techniccally it was)
Really.Quote:
i think the bali bomb and the attack on that french oil tanker were
Reasoning, please.
the bali bomb and french oil tanker were to get support for the war.
Fortunate really, that you posted in the "Conspiracy Theory" thread, isn't it?
You can talk.Quote:
Originally posted by clocker@31 May 2003 - 17:23
Fortunate really, that you posted in the "Conspiracy Theory" thread, isn't it?
yeah a conspiracy theory in a conspiracy theory thread. whatever next; edible food.
conspiracy theory doesnt mean untrue.
the dictionary says:
conspire: to plot secretly
theory: an explanation that is reasoned out in the mind
so naturally the government try to make us look insane when were actually smarter than your average bear
Education Education Education Says Tony B.liar, not that he can produce it but an educated populous see its leaders for the fools they really are :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by TheDave@31 May 2003 - 17:47
so naturally the government try to make us look insane when were actually smarter than your average bear
No your wrong he's living in the UK on benefits :lol:Quote:
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kinda off topic, but look at these results. us poor people are smarter than them richies
test the nation results
last year i was in my gcse year i got 126, but this year ive had an easy life and only got 109. i think they might be connected :ermm:
No, its not that.Quote:
Originally posted by TheDave@31 May 2003 - 18:30
kinda off topic, but look at these results. us poor people are smarter than them richies
test the nation results
last year i was in my gcse year i got 126, but this year ive had an easy life and only got 109. i think they might be connected :ermm:
Its just those rich people can afford to go out and have a life, so they tend not to take part that much ;)
(Sigh) Too many conspiracy theories and not enough time.
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I knew it!
What more proof do you need? :P
Ah, yes ... fear is a good thing, hehehehe. :lol:
OTD,
You should repost that up in Filesharing.
It would elicit a hurricane of serious discussion. :lol:
Nah, it's just a conspiracy theory. It couldn't possibly be true. :ph34r:
Be that as it may, it would deflect them from the latest round of 56K bashing...
Be careful what you wish for, hehehe. What the heck, I posted it in Filesharing under the new topic heading, "Filesharing Conspiracy Theories." Let's see what happens...Quote:
clocker wrote:
OTD,
You should repost that up in Filesharing.
It would elicit a hurricane of serious discussion. :lol:
Yes, let's...
This has turned into a thread more worthy of the lounge......
i think the new world order is true and globalisation is the downfall of society as we know it....
bit pessimistic i know but well what do you expect nowadays, everyones out to get us if u believe everything u see on TV.....
yup you werent kidding about that joint, but would you say tv has made us all paranoid or just erm smarter
well smarter too
the history channel does more for children than we'll ever know
Fear Is The Mindkiller :)
i always watch bremner bird and fortune and stuff like that, and dispatches and cant think of any names but you know
personally i watch things like im alan partridge...
oh and brass eye too, it shows the media culture if ever there was one...
oh and there is one !!
love brass eye :lol:
jus wanna say about conspiracy theories, remember:
truth is stranger than fiction :huh:
No it isn't, people just say that.Quote:
Originally posted by hypoluxa3k@1 June 2003 - 19:50
truth is stranger than fiction :huh:
Less is more, that's also crap.
2 heads are better than one?
is that one true?
Certainly on a boat. Ask OTDQuote:
Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@1 June 2003 - 20:13
2 heads are better than one?
is that one true?
No it isn't, people just say that.Quote:
Originally posted by PB Montgolfier+1 June 2003 - 19:58--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PB Montgolfier @ 1 June 2003 - 19:58)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--hypoluxa3k@1 June 2003 - 19:50
truth is stranger than fiction :huh:
Less is more, that's also crap. [/b][/quote]
wrong and double wrong
wrong and double wrong [/b][/quote]Quote:
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@1 June 2003 - 19:50
truth is stranger than fiction :huh:
No it isn't, people just say that.
Less is more, that's also crap.
Tell me the strangest true story you know then.