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no but thats the opposite to small, secret no invite sites isn't it? and you will get a shitty speed there most of the time. if these new sites want to cater for seederboxers and fast connections it's ok, thats their choice, but advertising it in FST to be a secret site is madness.
I'd probably take Tracker B over A too. That doesn't mean that Tracker B's worth is greater than Tracker A's, though. Worth is based solely on demand here.Quote:
Originally Posted by FalconsSB
Ok.. say.. you have..Quote:
Originally Posted by RTFM
Tracker A: Rarity is top-notch, 3000 User Limit, Pre-times Good, Community very good, Content is not so good, Speed is crap (unless it is new stuff), Only a couple seeders/leechers per torrent on avg, Only new stuff - you can't download old stuff because it is only 0-Day and only "uploaders" can do it, No requests or re-ups. Also, only 1 invite per Extreme User (500GB upped, etc) for entire lifetime.
Tracker B: Rarity is OK, 20000 User Limit, Pre-times Amazing, Community a little lacking because of the size, but people know eachother, Content is Amazing, Speed is top-notch, New stuff AND old stuff, PU+s can upload their on ripped torrents upon request.
I'd rather have Tracker B in a heart beat. I doubt many people here actually cares about rarity over content. For example, neither OiNK, BitmeTV, nor TL are hard to get into (just be respectful, give back to the community, and they will come to you). They are definitely not based on rarity, rather, content and speed.
Oh, btw, I don't know how you max out at F*N on everything.. I downloaded a torrent about a day ago (TV series, season 1 DVD Rip), and I got 20kb/s until this dude came in with a 100kb/s connection to boost it up. :ermm:
It's an unjust hypocrisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by allen(s)
But as for your first point. Sorry if you misunderstood me, but what I never meant it should go to another extreme. There is always the middlepoint where the best becomes apparent.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by RTFM
So would you prefer content/speed/etc than rarity?
No one should have problems with trackers created specifically for people with high-speed connection like no one has problems with music trackers, wrestling trackers and you-don't-wanna-know trackers. Trackers made not to please people outside but to please people *inside*.Quote:
Originally Posted by FalconsSB
But so-called secrecy is a funny part. Information leaked before SCN was started and I was even able to register using security hole. Now they tightened up security and deleted all accounts who got through that. Hope they will learn the lesson - you shouldn't say "we're making top-notch tracker, it will open in a month, here's acronym and url, go tell everyone". You should say "our tracker is up and running, you're in" in private.
Who said you can't have content and speed at a rare tracker? I was only making a decision based on your scenario, but those aren't completely realistic comparisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by FalconsSBExactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by RTFM
So would you prefer content/speed/etc than rarity?
It is kinda realistic..Quote:
Originally Posted by RTFM
How about U*-T or TL/RevTT?
U*-T has a better community, forum, irc and staff than TL/RevTT i think. if you want a site with thousands of users who never talk to each other or help each other then TL/RevTT's good for you.
"Concerns about new secret trackers:Quote:
Originally Posted by FalconsSBIt is kinda realistic..Quote:
Originally Posted by RTFM
How about U*-T or TL/RevTT?
I was under the impression that most of this talk was about RTS and SCN.
OH YA!!!! GOT IN!!! im gonna see how good the pre-times are for 24 and heroes tommorow.. im basically gonna judge it on that
Popular shows appear on Chronic in a minute. Do you *really* need better than that?
i guess they do.. its for the people that are connected to their pc 24 hoursQuote:
Originally Posted by AugustoP
this thread is hilarious.
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Originally Posted by Melvinmeow
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Originally Posted by Friendly Fire
All sad but true :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by aburyach
a tracker made by all the traders kicked out of the 0-day trackers only to say dont trade this tracker... its so stupid
did you read your post? what are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by tintin123
makes pretty good sense to meQuote:
Originally Posted by r4cc00n
all of you guys need to stfu and just let these trackers do their thing
which is to create a small private community based on trusted members that know each other
it doesn't to me because no part of the post is trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Salmonblaster
why doesn't someone make a new torrent site where leeching is the key.. and if you have a ratio over .5 you get banned, but here's the key... we'll talk about how awesome it is jsut like they did with the sites this post was originally talking about.. and we'll see how fast it fills up and then everyone will see how bad it really is and feel dumb.. but then we'll send their ip's to the good sites that require invites and have them banned from there. and then those sites will have open registration again and us mediocre connection people can take it over...
beer please?
WTF are you talking about? :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by frankie97
ummm.. ya'll were supposed to jump on my bandwagon...not stop it and question me :(
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Originally Posted by frankie97
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
sure dude
It's a new site and they want to build a good base of people.They will be inviting more and more people.. I got an invite w/ no trouble. i have no rep point because I don't trade invite/accounts so some of you should have no problems getting in at some point. There are plenty of giveaways going on....
Nope.........
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Originally Posted by phrenzy
feel free to point us in the direction
Does Everyone not get the fact that they are hosted in the Dallas Texas.
They say they offer seeding servers and ftp access. And again hosting in the USA
Do you people not get the fact that FBI can get a warrent walk in to hosting compnay and take that server with out notice... It dont matter where you may live in the world, if servers in the usa they will take them. I have already seen this more then once.
Anyone that signs up to this site is taking a huge risk. Not to mention the staff are all watched and on everyones hit listed, on i dont know how many sites. We chat about it all the time and update each other on there info to keep an eye out on these clowns.
People need to really wake up and start looking at places they join.
Wild
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cant help feeling a bit unsafe now :/
whats site you talking about wild? SCN?Quote:
Originally Posted by wildbytes
Quote:
Originally Posted by ptp5352whats site you talking about wild? SCN?Quote:
Originally Posted by wildbytes
RTS
I have not looked up scn as of yet, and not sure i will. But did look up the info on rts and i was shooked to see how easy it was and where they were hosted. I just cant beleave they would put them self in that kind of a risk.
I give it 2 months tops before host is force to take site off line or fbi come in and take servers.
RTS info
IP address:
Looking for '75.126.194.40'
Server 'whois.arin.net' reply [1183 bytes in raw data]:
OrgName: SoftLayer Technologies Inc.
OrgID: SOFTL
Address: 1950 N Stemmons Freeway
City: Dallas
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 75207
Country: US
I will remove this in about 15 minutes, but you do the math. I am sure most the stuff is faked but the stuff that cant be faked is the server info on where its hosted.
Wild
its a little worrying :unsure:
hmmm, somehow i dont think i will be using that site
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Originally Posted by wildbytesQuote:
Originally Posted by ptp5352
RTS
I have not looked up scn as of yet, and not sure i will. But did look up the info on rts and i was shooked to see how easy it was and where they were hosted. I just cant beleave they would put them self in that kind of a risk.
I give it 2 months tops before host is force to take site off line or fbi come in and take servers.
RTS info
Wild
lol, how can one delete an account there?:)
http://runningthescene.org/delacct.phpQuote:
Originally Posted by walczanin
Im waiting for some comment of RTS member especially the MODS...:whistling
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They are probably thinking of some sort of comeback responce.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirktrix
Maybe they didnt know you couldnt host torrents in the U.S. or something.
Its a big nono.
Theres quite a few sites that host in the U.S. but I personally wouldnt recommend it.
Me and Wild were talking about them being hosting on SL just last night.
I personally would recommend slapping Staff on sites who are hosted in the U.S. with a big wet fish.
All they do is put their users as well as themselves at risk.
Forget the coding/exploit issues. I recommend move the site to a SECURE server and fast. Anyone who can state they care about their sites users and still host in the U.S. obviously doesnt give a damn about their users.
(My opinion)
I guess they chose softlayer because of the review on the sct forum :Quote:
Originally Posted by Melvinmeow
:DQuote:
* SoftLayer
- Great speeds (including Gbit servers) and awesome servers!
- Offers support via online chat and emails are answered almost within an hour (or less) during business hours.
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Originally Posted by MelvinmeowThey are probably thinking of some sort of comeback responce.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirktrix
Maybe they didnt know you couldnt host torrents in the U.S. or something.
Its a big nono.
Theres quite a few sites that host in the U.S. but I personally wouldnt recommend it.
Me and Wild were talking about them being hosting on SL just last night.
I personally would recommend slapping Staff on sites who are hosted in the U.S. with a big wet fish.
All they do is put their users as well as themselves at risk.
Forget the coding/exploit issues. I recommend move the site to a SECURE server and fast. Anyone who can state they care about their sites users and still host in the U.S. obviously doesnt give a damn about their users.
(My opinion)
Yep first step right now should be moving the site out of the usa.
Step 2 should be stop offering up access and posting that the site has there own seeding servers. Pretty stupid thing to do, mostly because of risk.
Step 3 fixs all the known holes the site has. Every site as had to do this.
After all this then maybe the site will make it but even still this is just the first few steps out of many if they want a tracker that can make it.
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Originally Posted by jaqozo
you do know that this hosting company has a history of getting radied. I know of 3 times in last 3 years. Where ftp servers have been taken.
Wild
From what I have figured out... The servers are hosted in TX and they plan to move the hosting "soon". I am not sure why they would host them in the States to start with. This not only puts them at risk, but all the users of the tracker. Combine this will several hole in their code, and you have a recipe for disaster.
Maybe they should have asked for help from other Sysops that have experience in this type of thing and really planned out things before the launch. I never wish failure on anyone, but pre-planning and making sure you have everything together is a good idea before launching a tracker.
I also have been amazed at the so called speed of this tracker as well. For a site that had such high requirements, how can you have uploaders that have very poor connections? I had a torrent running last night with 2 seeds and I was only pulling speeds of 20kb at most. To test this i went to another tracker that is a level 2 mind you and pulled the same torrent with 3 seeds at over 90kb. hmmmm
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Originally Posted by SHUVT
Speed i am sure will be slow at first. Speeds can be slow because the 2 seeders capped there lines or because of all the hops it as to take AKA routing between seeder/leecher.
Wild
But that would mean that the seeders capped that torrent at 10kb up. Why would you upload it in the first place if you limit the up on it? There were no other leechers by the way. Also ther would not seem to be a need to cap the up if you are running a 100/100 like so many of them were required to have. Not bashing just curious.