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Originally Posted by gygz
and how many of those 30+k users are here in FST that really cares about trading it ??
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Originally Posted by gygz
and how many of those 30+k users are here in FST that really cares about trading it ??
Still no logic, buddy. Read again your math books from grade school.:happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by gygz
He's mexican. He speaks spanish. And he doesnt respect english syntax, plus he translates badly. The word "Other" -in spanish- when you hide the subject (in this case "guy", cause he wanted to say "an other guy asking...") can be used as subject, not in english, cause if you say other... we'll ask "other what?" Clear now? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by resignedIt means: me not speekin english very well. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by giya
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Originally Posted by giyaQuote:
Originally Posted by gygz
and how many of those 30+k users are here in FST that really cares about trading it ??
That's like saying:
If you drive a car at 129 M.P.H. ...
How many watts do the lights consume?
There are many variables you should have in mind before comparing ftn and ncore, not only userbase
:dry:
Guys it's level 6. That's what people voted for it to be. So it's worth level 6. Like Patriot said. When he and his buddies choose the rating you guys don't like it and when he lets you choose, you still don't like it. The bottom line is that ncore is level 6 because most people voted for it to be level 6 and yeah their user database is quiet big so lots of people should have it and please stop hyping these trackers so much to try to get very high trackers for it.
Like I said before there are crazy traders that have dupes high level accounts and they might offer something high for anything they want just because they don't have it and they have everything else. For example Shalafi. But that doesn't mean that the tracker is worth so much more.
When a tracker gets hyped so much everyone wants it but the real value is still the same. Like I said look at what people were offering for PEC before and they didn't even know it was a stupid cars tracker.
Csabi, trying to scam again? omfg what an idiot
Bro', try to understand something again and again: nCore is voted to be level 6. It's a thing. nCore weren't, isn't and won't traded like it was level 6. It's a different thing. People can vote for SCT to be level 1, but it doesn't mean, that after it is level 1, people will trade SCT for level 1 trackers. I know, that it's hard for you to understand this, because you find Hungarian trackers quite useless, or you just don't have them, so you are jelous, but please, try to THINK...just a little bit. Jesus Christ...:(Quote:
Originally Posted by saulin
What you need to understand is that you are in the minority group. You are probably one of those that voted Ncore to be level 9 because you have it and you want to trade it for something high.
It may be very valuable to you but you are still in the minority group. I think now you are saying, well it is worth a lot more because it has great content. Remember the whole rarity rating is about rarity and that's why it's level 6. Their database is pretty big. Is not a very rare tracker with 2000-5000 users.
If it was worth that much there would be some offers here already man.
Sct gets voted level 9-10 all the time but there are a lot of factors that makes it stay at level 8. Sct is probably the best general tracker there is too and this guy wanted level 9 for EL-SL. Get real!! lol
If the whole rating system was changed like I proposed a week or so ago then it would probably be worth more along with other trackers that are underrated because they are not so rare.
OK, so let me dispel your horrible misbeliefs. First: I didn't voted on the poll for level 9 in the case of nCore, because I'm not irrealistic. Second: I don't want to trade my nCore invites or account in the future, because I don't trade anymore, so I'm not motivated from this direction to "hype" this tracker.Quote:
Originally Posted by saulin
Now talk about my opinion about wiaw. Well, I absolutely don't care about content, speed, or such these things in connection with the wiaw list ('cause I'm not irrealistic, like you do, for example). I don't care about nCores content or speed, it could be very shitty, it doesn't matter for me, because I'm focusing only to the RARITY, if we talk about wiaw. The list would be completely different, if we would consider other factors, but now we should judge trackers only on the basis of rarity, willy nilly.
Now talk about, what you have said: "Is not a very rare tracker with 2000-5000 users". OK, it's simple: It has nothing to do with rarity, mate. If a tracker is open for signup for years, then they change their invite system (like nCore did), the possibility of getting into that site could be very hard, or maybe extremely hard. In this case, you would say: "Hey, there are 20K users, so it can't be rare". Why cannot? If the users don't want to trade their accounts, because there are few other Hungarian torrent-opportunities, and inviting is very restricted, it will be rare, man. No matter, how many users does the tracker have. Try to think it over.
seriously why would anyone want to trade that hard earned 500 points for a level 6 ???
It's another question, but this is in connection with the rarity of nCore. The point system will make nCore rarer (maybe those few dollars for the SMS don't seems so much..for you..but for Hungarians it's a little bit more).Quote:
Originally Posted by rokibalboa
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Originally Posted by saulin
Level 6 and:wave::wave:
Hey, LorD.MeXiCaN..it seems, that you are happy, so you were probably able to understand that English post. Or maybe not, it's jut enough for you to read two expressions near each other: "EL-SL" and "Level 6". Congratulations. Muhahaha.
Oh man we could go on forever with this. Let me tell you some facts.
EL-SL/Ncore was not known much till recently. That's why people started offering crazy things for it. It's a hungarian tracker so no one really cared for it till recently when it was mentioned. That's the only reason that gives it some value. If they changed their invite system was probably after they noticed more interest for that tracker which makes me wonder if some user from here is the sysop and is on his interest for it to be more valuable.
Another reason why I believe that some trackers are hyped to get more value or interest is the fact that most people voted RTS to be level 5. It's a farily new tracker with barely any torrents and lots of people have invites but most people voted for it to be rated level 5 but it also was started by people from here as well.
Now lets talk about other things. I feel that lots of trackers are underrated. Iplay has no invites for example and is at level 5. FSC as crappy as I think it is, is one rare tracker because invites were removed and acc trading is extremely risky without mail. NB is also a very rare tracker. Few people have invites. Very rarely will you see people offering NB invites and NB acc trading is not allowed. Now these are trackers that have been known for a while and they are rare. On the other hand most people here did not know about EL-SL/Ncore till recently because is a foreign tracker that was in the dark along with many other trackers that people don't know about that may have closed registrations and have a low suer database and could be rated maybe level 9 or 10 but just because someone will mention them doesn't mean they will be level 9-10.
That happened twice already with PEC and WarezBros. They were mentioned and they seemed rare and people offered crazy things for them and well they really aren't worth much at all now eh?
I could find some unknown trackers that may have closed registrations a long time ago and just because of that I don't think people will trade extremely hard to get trackers for them.
Maybe you should say wether some tarckers belong on level 6. For example TS-Tracker should be lowered since they give 4 invites as soon as you become PU and you only need 25 GB uploaded. Czone might have to go up since you need 1TB uploaded for 1 invite. FB I'm not sure since I don't use it much but I don't think is that hard to get invites there. But if EL-SL/Ncore goes up then level 7-8 or maybe 9 trackers need to go up because Ncore is not as rare as those except for the fact that not many people new about it till a review showed up recently at FST.
However since it has a lot of users and I'm sure lots of people have invites it gives apportunity to a lot of acc/inv trading making it not so rare.
I agree with u Saulin :D Don't waste your time here if people want to trade el-sl for higher tracker they are foolish (who gave TT,FTN,Exigo...)
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Originally Posted by resigned
Hello my friend :whistling, yeah, i am happy :w00t:
EL-SL is level 4 for me.
I will go on forever with this with pleasure, because for me it's a good opportunity to practice my English a little bit. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by saulin
OK, on the other hand: You said, that the staff on nCore changed the invite system, because they saw this forum, and they wanted to step to level 10? LOL! Hey, I'm gettin' enjoy this conversation with you, you're freakin' funny!
You're right in this case, and sure, there are hypes on this forum. I don't care about such people, who are hyping because they want to trade their stuff for higher level trackers. There are such hypers in connection with almost every trackers. I'm not a hyper, because I follow only logic, and I don't care, that we are talking about nCore, bH or SCT, FTN, and so on. It's a drag for me. The things, I've written are logical, and you didn't confuted my arguments, because they are logical, and you aren't able to confute them, pal. But it's OK, that you don't confessed yet, that I'm right, because you enjoy the talk with me, and you want my English to develop more. You're very generous. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by saulin
You're wrong. According to the rules of this wiaw list, all trackers, which are unknown, and which are hiding from most of the users, and which are hard to get in, could be level 9-10. Because it's not about rating popular trackers rarity, it's about rating trackers. Thats it, no more. So there can be thousands of unknown, closed trackers, and all of them deserve to be high level on this list. It's absurd, but you are talking about "what you want to be", and not "what is".Quote:
Originally Posted by saulin
This part of your speech is a simple mistake, so I don't comment it. There are almost noone on nCore at the moment, who has got invite. Or those, who have paid for it (via SMS), obviously don't want to invite unknown foreigners instead of one of their friend..and I've written about nCore account trading before, so I don't need to explain further, why is it such a rare thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by saulin
No is funny, saulin is telling the true.Quote:
Originally Posted by resigned
Resigned is trying to hyper his tracker because he is part of staff (BH or el-sl)making spam en every thread that hungarian trackers are good for trading higher level .. really sucks!!!!
-One example when they posted fake screenshot with 200 seeders or maybe not, but why nobody posted the first page of BH or el-sl where are the fresh torrents uploaded with few seeders
. make me laugth when i saw it that is not true only few seeders in eeach torrents
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Originally Posted by LorD.MeXiCaNNo is funny, saulin is telling the true.Quote:
Originally Posted by resigned
Resigned is trying to hyper his tracker because he is part of staff (BH or el-sl)making spam en every thread that hungarian trackers are good for trading higher level .. really sucks!!!!
-One example when they posted fake screenshot with 200 seeders or maybe not, but why nobody posted the first page of BH or el-sl where are the fresh torrents uploaded with few seeders
. make me laugth when i saw it that is not true only few seeders in eeach torrents
Hey, not bad! You've made this post, and it's quite understandable..did you asked one of your friends to write it, or you've developed in English? Wow, what a talent, mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by LorD.MeXiCaN
Now let's speak about the lies you told about me right now. OK, I really don't like to respond posts of a 10 years old kid, but I will try very hard not to humiliate you. Wooh, it will be really hard.
Well, I'm not a staff member on any Hungarian sites. This is such a thing, which I can't prove..how can I prove this, right? OK. Second: I never posted fake screenshots, you can check the WIAW thread, where I posted screens about bH. I've taken a screen about bH torrents, where only 1 seeder and 0 leecher were, then I started that torrent on my client, and took a picture about the client, what was seeding on quite high speed from that 1 seeder. Lord Mexican saw, that on the first screen there were 0 leecher, but how can it be, if I'm downloading it on the other screen? I tell you: FIRST I took the screen about the torrent page, THEN I started the torrent, THEN I took the picture about my client. Very complicated. Lord Mexican, you have failed on the IQ-test, sit down. Thanks.
P.s.: Alexson777 you too. +1 ;)
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Originally Posted by resigned
You're Freakin'funny NOW :lol::lol:
Oh you liked my sentence? Copypaste? Not bad! :)
That's fucking brilliant. Congratulations. No, I'm serious, I'd rather pay for an invite via sms than do all that futile and time-consuming trading. I don't have good credit card, so using mobile to do things seems preferable in any way. I guess that's how hungarians got all the money for rebranding their premium el-esl-isaac-azimovesque-lookalike tracker.Quote:
Originally Posted by resigned
Next step is to pick a new name for the atrocious bitehymen, which definitely sounds like the place for bleeding virgins.
So bring on the worldwide number where to send sms and in return get invite code or send pay-sms with personal e-mail. That will open the endless possibilities for further growth and development.
Cheerio!!!:phone:
ROTFL! Anyway, you're right, it could be a brilliant business. Sad thing is, that SMSs are only allowed from Hungarian mobile networks, but it's true, that it's not a little good idea from the staff, they will earn some money with this. Another thing is, that I would never pay to have an invite, because it's completely against the ideology of scene releasing, nonprofit sharing, etc..but there are many, who would spend their money for invites.Quote:
Originally Posted by RengeeTT
guys
you kidnapped the person's thread
stop it
so many long posts... lol
Resigned your logic doesn't make much sense man. If nCore is to go up then other trackers need to go up. You fail to realize that when 30K+ people have a tracker is not rare and even without invites there is room for a lot of acc trading. Many trackers that don't have invites are traded by acc. That's why 2000-5000 is a lot more rare. Lots of people that have had nCore for a while will have invites so don't go saying that very few people out of 30000+ have invites only.
The bottom line is that most people think is level 6 and that's what it is. If there is someone willing to give more so be it but just look at what people will offer for Exigo, FTWR, FTN and Sct. They offer a lot more than what the tracker is worth.
You guys fail to realize that before this tracker was rated people were making insane offers because they didn't know any better. That's no the case anymore :)
OK, so start it again. It can't be overemphasized: In the case of most Hungarian trackers the amount of users has nothing to do with rarity. For Hungarian users nCore worth much more, than level 4-5 (or even level 6) trackers, so they are absolutely undermotivated to trade their accounts for lower level stuff. I tell you why. Hungarian trackers are very valuable among Hungarian users, because most of them doesn't speak English very well, so they aren't interested too much in getting in foreigner trackers, because they want to see movies, series, etc in their own language (or maybe not ONLY in their own language, but mainly..btw another misbelief of yours, that on nCore there are almost only Hungarian stuff. It is not true, there are 15K torrents, and a very large amount of it is English). For example, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian people are much more motivated in trading their nordic accounts, because people with these nationalities are more open minded..you know, Hungary is in Centre-East Europe. Sad, but true. So for an American, English, or even for a Norwegian guy it's absolutely OK to trade their inland accounts for foreigner accounts. In Hungary it is NOT. Most of them doesn't even know about foreigner trackers, or doesn't care about them. Thats why the gap exists here between offer and demand. You can offer level 4-5 trackers for nCore in vain, noone will trade his good old Hungarian account for your English language-based stuff, only for much more valuable stuff (like level 7-8 trackers). Thats a special mechanism in the case of Hungarian trackers. Their rarity isn't based mainly on the small amount of users, or on highly restricted invite systems, but on the low interest towards foreigner trackers, and because of that on the low trading willingness. You don't know anything about other countries except yours, thats why you can't understand such psychological factors, like this. The Hungarian torrent communities are in a class by themself. They are "closed" in a sense, and the users trade mainly Hungarian invites for Hungarian invites, there are very few foreigners.Quote:
Originally Posted by saulin
Yeah, that's true, that people doesn't make "insane" offers for nCore now, because of the rating, but it's a fact, that because of the low offers, there are barely nCore-related trades according to the first times. In normal case, Hungarian people would lower their needs, and would accept lower offers in no time, but we see: It didn't happened, and it obviously won't.