Went on IRC and confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro's Bittorrent Music Tracker
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Went on IRC and confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro's Bittorrent Music Tracker
This version at the moment is work fine for me in several trackers.
But I think that still it will go to suffer plus alterations and corrections.:yup:
:gunsmilie
Reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
Hope they will lift the ban cause I lost my copy of v1.6.1 :dabs:
He wouldn't tell me, so I assume there's a breach somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by HairbauttReason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
Hope they will lift the ban cause I lost my copy of v1.6.1 :dabs:
Suggested I downgrade to 1.6 "immediatley". Kindly said, no thanks I'll wait it out.
I hear 1.7.1 is already out but he said that's banned too.
µTorrent 1.7.0.3341 Final :unsure: I stay with nsane for my releases tho' they are a bit late...
TorrentFreak didn't even report any tracker bans...Maybe they'll come thru if they're just paranoid. Or something.
Well, utorrent already has 1.7.1 listed as the latest stable release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hairbautt
Also, I went on Pedro's IRC right when I got the red arrow in uTorrent, so they had just banned it right then.
EDIT: Just upgraded to 1.7.1 but still banned.
Utorrent 1.7.1(build 3360) stable 13-07-2007 download page utorrent now, the last release.;)
:gunsmilie
You haven't been reading, have you?Quote:
Originally Posted by FireMan
I have read posts, but now I was without perceiving what you said Skizo.
I am only to try to help. :yup:
:gunsmilie
They forgive me if I put the feet for the hands.
No problem.
Perhaps I was the one who misunderstood. ;)
The client reports false download stats, I believe it has been fixed in ut 1.7.1Quote:
Originally Posted by Hairbautt
--- 2007-07-13: Version 1.7.1 (build 3360)
- Fix: Invalid download amounts being reported to trackers for >4GB torrents
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic....233108#p233108Quote:
Originally Posted by Hairbautt
Already now which the problem in this version 1.7, therefore already I read that an imperfection in the same one exists, which can be used to advantage by badly intentioned people.
It will be really or not?
Thanks;)
:gunsmilie
good news
but still used old version
Man version 1.7 is even banned on bitsoup......suprising.
Utorrent is bed with enemy until proven to be safe can't see it won't be used by me,the good sites that care about their members have disallowed it
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Originally Posted by Linkin Park
version 1.7.1 is as well I was quick to go back to 1.6 until 1.7 has been around for a while
What sort of proof do you have of this?Quote:
Originally Posted by mforcex
All I see here is a "because I said they do".
It was a really quick upgrade so I doubt anything suspect was added.Quote:
Originally Posted by kapowcowpwnedno no no, u gotta go with just 1.6 not 1.61Quote:
Originally Posted by SKGunners
I dunno if I should downgrade to 1.6, there was apparently some security flaw in 1.6, if I remember correctly, which is the reason for the upgrade from 1.6 to 1.61.
Utorrent 1.7 is banned at DH. I know a bunch of other sites have started banning and I'm sure majority will soon! I wouldn't recommend using it if I were any of you.
Every version > 1.6.1 is Bittorrent Inc., which is directly in partnership with the movie studios. Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures, News Corp.'s 20th Century Fox, Lionsgate, Palm Pictures and Kadokawa Pictures USA etc etc .
In fact versions > 1.7 don't even have the same developer doing it. It's all handled now by Bittorrent Inc's development. The original author (up to 1.6.1) is no longer even part of the project.
Right from uTorrent's FAQ
"Who makes µTorrent?
Ludvig Strigeus (ludde) is the original author and former maintainer of µTorrent.
BitTorrent Inc's developers are the current maintainers of µTorrent. "
If you want to use a client that is endorsed by the MPAA/RIAA have fun!
@DreadWingKnigh - This is why:Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWingKnighWhat sort of proof do you have of this?Quote:
Originally Posted by mforcex
All I see here is a "because I said they do".
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Originally Posted by ACiD
I'll be straightforward here.
All I see in the line of posts endorsing the ban in this thread are unfounded claims with no hard evidence.
Where's the proof that this client reports back to the *AAs?
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Originally Posted by limpdickkid@DreadWingKnigh - This is why:Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh
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Originally Posted by ACiD
That's still a "because I say they do". There's no hard evidence saying that the MPAA/RIAA are actually endorsing this client actively.
What proof do you want? lol Your using a client that is endorsed by the MPAA/RIAA do you think they are involved just for fun and to see utorrent succeed as a great client? Are you that ignorant?Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh
If you want proof, use utorrent 1.7, grab pg2 or something similar and watch for the following ip hits.
"64.124.145.113
64.124.145.104
206.169.225.92
64.34.174.141
64.34.172.152
206.169.170.246
206.169.230.102"
Feel free to trace those if you like and see where they end up. Why use a torrent client upgraded with the help of the MPAA when you can use clients like halite or azureus etc? Doesn't make much sense to me. Some people will never be convinced until they have someone show up at their door! If you didn't know that Bittorent Inc is in partnership with MPAA/RIAA then you really don't read the news very often.
PG2's blocklists are overbearing and inaccurate. I won't use them.
Use wireshark and give me the actual information transferred to and from those IP addresses.
Dude, honestly. Do your own tests, I am just saying I wouldn't recommend anyone to use it and that torrent sites will ban it for the very reasons I have stated above. If you don't want to believe me then don't, I don't really give a shit if you get busted. Don't say I didn't warn you!Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh
There are a lot of alternatives you can use without taking the risk, I love utorrent just like anyone else and still use 1.6.1.
IF you're going to make the claims that uT sends info back to the RIAA/MPAA, at least have the decency to have the proof of WHAT info they're sending back.
I did my own tests with wireshark and found that 1.7.1 didn't even attempt ANY traffic to the IP addresses you claim it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACiDDude, honestly. Do your own tests, I am just saying I wouldn't recommend anyone to use it and that torrent sites will ban it for the very reasons I have stated above. If you don't want to believe me then don't, I don't really give a shit if you get busted. Don't say I didn't warn you!Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWingKnigh
There are a lot of alternatives you can use without taking the risk, I love utorrent just like anyone else and still use 1.6.1.
Also, http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12790
DreadWingKnigh = MPAA/RIAA
:lol:
yup. Iam sticking with 1.6.1 until halite is fully developed. Its lacking alot of neccessary features currently.
some sites dont allow it so be careful
Congratulations! I have tested with about 10 other people all getting the same reporting as myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadWingKnighIF you're going to make the claims that uT sends info back to the RIAA/MPAA, at least have the decency to have the proof of WHAT info they're sending back.
I did my own tests with wireshark and found that 1.7.1 didn't even attempt ANY traffic to the IP addresses you claim it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACiD
Also, http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12790
I will give some links to you as well quoting the news:
http://www.slyck.com/story1006.html
http://www.slyck.com/story1357.html
Seriously man, MPAA is involved with Bittorrent Inc, Utorrent was bought by Bittorrent Inc back in December, this is a FACT! Seven months go by and 1.7 is released. Do you honestly believe that the MPAA are helping to make a torrent client better? Seriously, use your head man, think about it for 10 minutes before you respond. Why would the MPAA be involved in bittorrent inc and utorrent if they weren't getting anything out of it?! Have they changed their mind about piracy all together? If this isn't the case why wouldn't they make the code open source so people can squash these reports once and for all?
The fact that the MPAA is involved is enough evidence not to use the torrent client! There is a reason why some torrent sites have banned it and the rest will be soon to follow. Even if through your testing you didn't find any weird ip hits, do you think you never will? Test it for a week and see what happens.
If you want a good alternative, just like utorrent with out the mpaa involvement try this: http://www.binarynotions.com/halite.php
OR stick with Utorrent 1.6.1
If you want to continue using it then go ahead, I'm not going to try to convince you any further. I was explaining why some sites have banned it and why I wouldn't recommend it, thats all, warning the users of FST.
What does 1.7 give you that is soooo desirable that you would take that risk? The differences between it and 1.6.1 are minimal at best.
all this UTorrent bashing is all a bit conspiracy theory for me, though I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just gonna stick to 1.6.1. if it aint broke don't fix it.
And what information is PG2 giving you beyond the fact that the traffic is blocked?Quote:
Originally Posted by ACiD
Nothing.
Give me wireshark log entries for the packets going to/from those IPs, and I might consider believing your saying that uT is sending info. Otherwise, don't claim it is.
I installed the latest µTorrent 1.7 a few hours ago and the MPAA is at my door right now. Wish me luck.
see any doubters there's your proof...everyone else who's got 1.7 better get ready, quick trash your hard drives :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by sp0ngeb0b
Seriously though it's best to remain warry seing as it's banned by a number of trackers.
they said that the mpaa and Bram Cohen were working to remove copyright material from Bram's search engine. They say nothing about working with the mpaa to target anyone using the client. Just because Bram Cohen is willing to remove links from his search engine, does not in any way mean he is working hand in hand with anything the MPAA wants. Get real. No buisness is going to let an outside force run their buisness without a fight.
He's only doing what google, filemirrors, and other big sites are doing, removing links, nothing more.
Quit spreading rumor and propoganda that has no evedence to support it, or, PROVE ME WRONG.
Edit: Sites also normally ban each release as it comes out of beta. They just want to thouroughly test it first. And guess what, soon enough, they unban it, and say you must upgrade, then they ban the older version due to hacks.
Take a look down history lane.
We have also baned Utorrent 1.7 and 1.7.1 and all new releases for utorrent. If you wish to use utorrent on wb you must use 1.6 and 1.6.1 for now.
Wild
We have now banned µtorrent 1.7 an 1.7.1, and now redirected members back to 1.6.1 release.
Should have guessed something like this would happen when bram got his hands on it.
Um, are you guys just jumping on the band wagon and believing the rumors? Or is there actually some shred of proof that just hasn't made it beyond sysops of torrent sites?
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Originally Posted by trad3r
Thats was My question too. any proof before spreading rumors?
no its something we have been looking at over the last 2 to 3 days. We have talked to other staff and owners else where and did some testing and we feel at this point in time to ban these 2 releases. 1 reason is it still does not report right on wb.
Wild
Have you talked to the uTorrent devs to get your concerns addressed?