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[quote=scribble;2261195]that's what you say AFTER you trade for all the accounts you need :dry:
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I had TL before I started trading, and after the trading, TL still has the same content as my more 'exclusive' trackers. They just make me feel safer. The others I have traded for have a good community feel, which is why I like them. I could easily substitute good forums for any of these.
i said yes too
Lots of ppl who voted NO, either they don't get it why it should be banned or they just don't care.Either way it's bad and this poll won't affect any decision cuz it it's going to be made we won't be looking at the poll results.
btw I voted YES, just to clear some things up.
exactly :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Melvinmeow
private trackers want trusted networks and both invite and account trading violates that in the same manner bringing in untrustworthy people. so do open signups, but i don't think anyone would vote to ban open signups thread :) besides, traded accounts are easier to catch, so i would find them preferable if i was tracker enforcer :D
as from fst point of view, biggest problem i can see is that newbies get scammed, cheated or busted allot on traded accounts. that's a fact. majority of hipper-buffed accounts are made by cheaters and as said changing ip, country, e-mail and password on account isn't exactly stealthy :)
other question is if fst mods are willing to exchange their policing of scammers with policing threads for account trades. that should be poll for mods :)
i would personally just stick up "BEWARE OF ACCOUNT TRADES" and go out for a beer.
:yup: right, i don't think that's an option :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Melvinmeow
only people with low lvl acc will say yes and may be people that they r retaired
You couldn't be more wrong, however I will suggest that people that think about trackers in terms of rarity will vote no.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Generl
Yes, it should be banned.. more the many reasons already stated in both links.
Sweet... DUDE!!! We finally agreed on somethings lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by optimus_primeexactly :)
private trackers want trusted networks and both invite and account trading violates that in the same manner bringing in untrustworthy people. so do open signups, but i don't think anyone would vote to ban open signups thread :) besides, traded accounts are easier to catch, so i would find them preferable if i was tracker enforcer :D
as from fst point of view, biggest problem i can see is that newbies get scammed, cheated or busted allot on traded accounts. that's a fact. majority of hipper-buffed accounts are made by cheaters and as said changing ip, country, e-mail and password on account isn't exactly stealthy :)
other question is if fst mods are willing to exchange their policing of scammers with policing threads for account trades. that should be poll for mods :)
i would personally just stick up "BEWARE OF ACCOUNT TRADES" and go out for a beer.
:yup: right, i don't think that's an option :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Melvinmeow
Some people say they like closed communities...
Those closed communities many times have issues cause their userbase is too small and they tend to always have a lack of funding to keep those small communities open.
Larger communities have to worry about getting too much attention.
Medium communities generally do open signups for long periods of time and have to deal with the same users cheating and getting back in ect...
Basically every site is differant... but in the long run...
No matter what site is it or how good their staff are...
You either have pissed off users or pissed off staff...
You cant keep everyone happy so let bygons be bygons is a good way to describe how I feel.
We as staff do our thing and you as users do your thing.
Best of luck with getting on some lovely sites however you decide to go about getting on them.
Voted yes.
The thing is this. I came from a community where all of the trading was banned. **************.com. This site was AWESOME at first. The people who came there wanted to be there and there was very little scamming. But after a while, the scamming started. Just like with this sites, registrations were open and people created multiple accounts. People "traded" with themselves to get higher status ranking in the site. People would pretty much do anything they could to cheat. That said, TI had SHITTY admins that did next to nothing to stop any of it.
To create a perfect community that MIGHT, and i say MIGHT, even have the blessing of some of the torrent sites, it needs to be mostly private with open registrations very rarely. It needs to have admins who are not braindead. It needs to have a policy where people MUST donate first before they are able to take. It needs to have a policy where people who do not log in for over a month are kicked and need to get another invite. And it needs to have a system where people who invite multiple cheaters are banned for life.
IF something like that happens, then it would be a great thing. The reason FST is kinda meh, is that it allows account trading. People will buffer their accounts with no respect to the trackers community and then attempt to trade it off for something better. Trading accounts lets people who steal accounts get away with it. Trading accounts lets people scam others. Trading accounts is pretty much exactly what "file sharing" is NOT about.
I totally agree with muyoso. I come from TI too and although there were some scammers they had really good system where people would give invites to recognised people depending on their proofs of ratio and on their ratio of donation points and grab points. In just one month I went from level 2 to level 6 all because of the inviters and all depending on my behaviour and share ratio's without trading.
Although I am fresh here, I see FST is about what level of trackers you have more then emphasizing on your share ratio. But TI is no more and FST would be my ground for long term
I wonder what would happen if the same poll was in the BitTorrent section instead of the invites section.
Or the lounge :fear:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
No the lounge is way too scary :fear:Quote:
Originally Posted by sear
I don't mind it so much but we all know how much they love the "tard" section as the wolves call it so I'm sure they'd be extra nice about a poll like this ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
i think leave the acc trading here
if not ppl will just move elsewhere
also there are community reps here from ftn etc
leave acc trading as ppl trade at own risk
I don't and never trade my accounts...But i voted for "NO"...:D
I think that's the idea :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tintin123
Voted yes
I don't like the idea of trading anyway - giving away invites is the way to go for the bt community.
again
it's hard
if we see more giveaways from high level trackers' admins this for sure will lessen trading :)
but banning trading without having an alternative for people to get in the high level trackers it won't help and we have to get rid of this rarity level thing too.
voted yes even if i wont get ScT only through trading i still hope that a kind soul will give me an invite :D
No Comment :whistlingQuote:
Originally Posted by kirktrix
Even though the poll is anonymous, it is nice to see that there is only a small gap between the choices. I thought more people would have voted NO. This is a solid step towards anti-trading. :yup:
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by MaaxHimself
Yes ban account trading,
Look it you want invites, live in irc and get to know peeps you'll get all the top sites for free.
By account trading i presume we means accounts only and not invites. I think a few ppl might have got confused.
I voted yes. Even though it might not be benefical for me to get a higher tracker, I rather take my chances and ask for an invite than trade my accounts.
double post
By account trading i presume we means accounts only and not invites. I think a few ppl might have got confused.
I voted yes. Even though it might not be benefical for me to get a higher tracker, I rather take my chances and ask for an invite than trade my accounts.
I guess its going to be a 50/50 thing.
not that also , we can manage to make more deals with the BT Sites staffs , so it will be safe for users to trade/give invitesQuote:
Originally Posted by silvertec
-V
As I and others already said , trading = trading . Regardless if it is invites or accounts.
You get the invites for your own use . Which means , not to trade . You can invite your friend, for example .
So if invites are allowed , so should be accounts .
And about the poll , there should be more options. This is not only black and white .
The best thing would be to delete the rarity thread.Trade what U want.No stupid rarity.
stop making this thread everywhere
you dont like trading, dont come to FST
FST is not only about trading.
The same shity Comment you did in the other threadQuote:
Originally Posted by sababot
FST is not a place to Trade only , go to the lounge and you will know how ugly this section is
-V
maybe we have the different beauty point, i really think that lounge is too gay. but it doesnot matter. you like it, you stay.Quote:
Originally Posted by V For VendettaThe same shity Comment you did in the other threadQuote:
Originally Posted by sababot
FST is not a place to Trade only , go to the lounge and you will know how ugly this section is
-V
now:
216 members online
120 members in bt section
86 members in bt invite section
btw: should i say "ban the lounge", just because i dun like it?
If ya hate trading I suppose U dont have to.Btw dont bother other ppl with this shit giveaway stuff. :P
I have done giveaways and have got stuff frm giveaways.and I dont shun giveaways.I just say,DO WHAT U LIKE.
Just what I thought would happen. They won. :S
No Trading Is A Skill To Be Developed.
& How Else Would A Chap Like Me Ever Get Into Ftn ?
:( I Wish There Was Another Way...but There Isn't. I'm Outta Luck I Guess.:(
MaaxHimself, you can't tell never accurate who's on the other side of the trade.I've seen lots of examples that if I tell you them all you won't belive it.Some ppl who were considered the most trusted fellas turned out to be invite sellers, cheaters and many other bad things.
I voted yes offcourse!!!
Who are you to tell people what they should do? :dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by sababot
People have the right to discuss the future of account trading @ FST and the last thing we all want is the comment you made.