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definitely bittorrent
Like I said, Newsgroups proved inadequate for my needs. They're probably just fine for most, though I reckon I'd still prefer BT since the rare things I get from private trackers and the mainstream things I get at full speed from public trackers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
If only you knew how foolish your statement was...Quote:
Originally Posted by orfik
Newsgroups don't approach those sites in terms of content?? That statement alone displays your outright inexperience and lack of knowledge.
As has been said by Cheese, newsgroups is by far the superior option between the two. Using Giganews, Newsbin, and Grabit I have 200+ days of content to download* at max speeds which downloads, fixes and extracts itself.
* As an example, Newzbin provides me with approximately 120,000 posts of content** whilst the average on my private trackers is about 10,000. Usenet search engines reveal hundreds of thousands of files available.
** That's new and old content. At max speed. All the time. With no need to upload.
There's no contest really.
But, just to see, can someone using Newsgroups find me a copy of Siouxsie and the Banshees Peel Sessions with log/cue, ripped in secure mode? Also, a copy of Lonely is an Eyesore, both the VHS rip and the album, in FLAC. If you can, I'll eat my words and my hat.
You aren't downloading your "mainstream" things from public trackers at full speed. No, no you aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by orfik
The two methods do compliment each other tho'. I certainly am not anti-bittorrent, but one is better than the other.
I still use bittorrent (E****) for most of my lossless needs. But when looking for anything, I check Usenet first as it is the superior method. Regardless of the popularity of the content or it's age, it will come across at full speed, no if's, and's, or but's.
It's a petty test really. You can find things on bittorrent that Usenet doesn't have (I did not even look btw) and I could find things on Usenet that bittorrent doesn't have.Quote:
Originally Posted by orfik
You're completely missing the full point...
I prefer to pay for a seedbox and give back to the rest to the community instead of paying for a leech greedy warez access (at that point it's faster to buy silver dvd so you don't have to keep your pc powered up... and not even pay for a fast internet connection)...
(I'm sure nobody replying in this thread does upload to newsgroups... yeah... file sharing talk... or file downloading talk? XD)
hey orfik i made some search but i found only mp3
take a look at these cool screenshots
http://i13.tinypic.com/7ynmyiq.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/6owg3v5.jpg
http://www.newzleech.com/usenet/?gro...e=usenet&adv=1
don't know WTF Siouxsie is, but here are the binsearch results.
http://binsearch.info/?q=Siouxsie&ma...v_age=&server=
I'm impressed. You're an authority on my download speeds without ever having seen them. :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
Anyway, my experience is personal, and my opinions, while sweeping, are subjective.
To me there is no comparison: BT offers a superior selection for my interests, the organization of the tracker (genre specification and community) allow me to expand my interests, and it's free. Utterly free.
I didn't dislike NGs so much as I found I had no use for them. Again, this is probably a personal thing. I only use four BT trackers, really, and I never found anything on NGs in a better format than what I found on those trackers. Now, I understand the benefit of being able to max out your speed on every file, the huge library of files, the impressive retention, and I still maintain my opinion, so tell me what I'm missing.
In other words, what, other than impatience, would compel someone to spend extra money on NGs?
p.s., r77 & mbucari1: None of those were what I was looking for, and all can be had at no cost from emule (edit: and BT)
i love Bittorrent more than any other programs else
its free and fast and safe
I prefer the torrents because the rate of 'bad' flies is much reduced.
I'm currently trying out a free usenet account because I was currious about the whole fuss about newsgroups.
After a few days I still like torrents more! You go to your private trackers website, you have a nice list with categories, etc...
When I search for files at the newsgroups I have the feeling like when you would download a movie with kazaa; will it be the right file and will the files not be broken our corrupt.
Newsgroups offer newest stuff and best speeds, but Bittorrent is the the Heart of File Sharing and you don't have to pay for it on most trackers.
I was a regular poster to a few usenet groups for about
ten years. I got tired of having to translate full headers
just to make sure that I wasnt' replying to a forger.
The binaries are the only part of usenet worth a damn
anymore. It's how I got started downloading music
i prefer bittorrent
i too prefer bittorrent its free too
Until I have to start paying to use bittorrent thats my number one choice.
i prefer Newsgroups because of the speeds...Here in Polland i had never good speeds with bittorrent.
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Originally Posted by bcrabl
WIN: SPEED :happy:
I prefer Bittorrent. I can't get what I want on usenet (I used to have an account at newshosting). Also, ever since nzbzone.com was shut down usenet became pretty shit.
nzb sites ring a bell! the newsgoup own fuck sharing my upload with torrents,plus with usenet you get the max out of your connection so if u got an 8meg connection you get that!Quote:
Originally Posted by SkykeN
http://www.nzbsource.com/ proberly about 70 nzb sites there, usenet became shit! everything is on there! some poeple come out with some shit,:whistling nzbmatrix good one or just search with binsearch or newsleech,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanz™
everyone likes bt cus they are free, they wont be free when the FBI come knocking at your door
Wow I just looked at nzbsource and this looks very promising.
Seeds are for the birds
Newsgroups ftw max connection speeds , no seeding . encrpyted connections /ssl
Most scene releases are posted there before BT sites .
And also downloading from usenet is not illegal , only uploading to it
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Originally Posted by 0ctane
Downloading is illegal, it's called "conspiracy to commit copyright infringement". But this is a criminal charge that can not be filled by the MPAA/RIAA. A law enforcement agency such as the FBI would have to file it. They (the FBI) have better things to do with their time than go after individual users, they focus on the "scene" groups - and only half heartily at that.
While I brought up something negative there is a light.
Usenet has been around for 20+ years. In all of that time not one person has be charge with anything (civil or criminal) for downloading from it. Cases of people being charge for uploading to Usenet is far and in between.
All and all, it's the safest method for "getting stuff" there is.
I prefer bit torrents
I think torrent is better
Usenet in the first place, no ratio and max download speed.
I prefer Bittorrent and P2M.
I'm just getting into newsgroups after relying on torrents for everything and my first impression is that torrents are a little more user friendly, especially when it comes to searching but maybe that's just because I haven't got the hang of usenet yet. The speeds on newsgroups are great but I've never really had an issue with slow speeds on torrents. So at the moment I think I prefer torrents but my opinion might be different by the end of the year. At the beginning of last year I thought kazaa was amazing
sure bittorrent
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Originally Posted by snoopdo2g
No offense to you, but Rapids**t doesn't even compare to torrents in the least bit. I'm running a 10mb DL / 5mb UL DSL, and I will put money on the fact that torrents will blow RS out of the water any day of the week or month. How do I know? I moderate a warez forum where everything is on RS/MS/MU, and I have premium accnts to all of the above.
Torrents are faster; I have proved it on this end.
I use and prefer BitTorrent
Bittorrent its better for far
bitorrent ftw, i dont want to go to usenet as it looks more complicated lol :]
bittorrent all the way.
Thanks MAN
I use torrents, but I know a guy that uses a newgroups. Other than the no uploading part, I don't think I would care for newgroups.
i use bittorrent mostly but my friend once let me use his usenet account and i think the speeds are much better (no upload, just download. makes sense :)). so i'd say newsgroups, but i'll stick with bittorrent because i couldn't afford a subscription for now. :D
i like bt zhan newsgroup
Newsgroups
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For the security and no need to seed back but you can still upload there...
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Have to pay a monthly fee,(but if you clever you will never pay :lol: don't pm me about it...)
And Retention shit sucks...
BitTorrent
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For the large variety of content, and big big community.
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But problem with security, ip's recorded, and shit like that sites goin' down...
Being targeted by few organizations, not appreciated by the Real Scene...
Newgroups have an incredible selection of content, new and old, and in the right places, excellent communities. That is, after all the point of newsgroups - feel free to venture outside the binaries and actually read some posts at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by snoopdo2g
The only real plus to torrents is the price.