Your seedbox kills my ratio

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Originally Posted by davidw89

you dont need a seedbox..
people do it to show off, buffer etc, but whats the point if you cant hit and run with like 2 TB buffer

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Having a seedbox is not just for showing off at all.
When I upload a torrent somewhere, I seed it at 20mb/s+ for a total of 6-700% to get it started. I could seed from home, but at <50KB/s, people would be pissed. My seedbox can saturate 2.5 UK broadband connection downloads at least, my home upload can do 1/20th of a home connection.


Another good reason for seedboxes is that you'll never catch me whining about how my ISP blocks torrents etc, no matter what policies they introduce. All those hundreds of thousands of comcast users using torrents might as well be H&R, because comcast cuts off the seeding. With a seedbox, that problem goes away.
Would you rather get your torrent from 500 comcast users or just 5 seedboxes?


All those times you see a single uploader with a home connection doing 25KB/s to 50 peers, things improve massively if a seedbox is introduced.
Seedboxes can suck down all the data that's already in the swarm very quickly, and redistribute it to everyone else.


Finally, a 2TB buffer can be used up.
Those with seedboxes and high buffers can afford to download all those torrents that haven't a hope in hell of being seeded back. I'm not afraid to download 3 month old 50GB torrents when I have 500+GB to spare.
That ratio helps the people who need it most, those who arrived late on a torrent and have not been able to seed it back.

hehehe 4 that reason skizo i will rent 2 more seedboxs

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Originally Posted by Mister Moo

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Originally Posted by Skizo

Why would I be banned on e****? :blink:

I have a nice ratio there, thank you very much... all due to few seedboxes I'm sure.

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yea no one has a seedbox there hence sucky speeds:pinch:

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I'll take "sucky" speeds any day on a music tracker over fast speeds and not being able to seed.

A couple hundred MB at e**** doesn't take long to download at 60kbps or so, and it's relatively easy to seed back. I love it.

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Originally Posted by rvt

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Originally Posted by davidw89

you dont need a seedbox..
people do it to show off, buffer etc, but whats the point if you cant hit and run with like 2 TB buffer

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Having a seedbox is not just for showing off at all.
When I upload a torrent somewhere, I seed it at 20mb/s+ for a total of 6-700% to get it started. I could seed from home, but at <50KB/s, people would be pissed. My seedbox can saturate 2.5 UK broadband connection downloads at least, my home upload can do 1/20th of a home connection.


Another good reason for seedboxes is that you'll never catch me whining about how my ISP blocks torrents etc, no matter what policies they introduce. All those hundreds of thousands of comcast users using torrents might as well be H&R, because comcast cuts off the seeding. With a seedbox, that problem goes away.
Would you rather get your torrent from 500 comcast users or just 5 seedboxes?


All those times you see a single uploader with a home connection doing 25KB/s to 50 peers, things improve massively if a seedbox is introduced.
Seedboxes can suck down all the data that's already in the swarm very quickly, and redistribute it to everyone else.


Finally, a 2TB buffer can be used up.
Those with seedboxes and high buffers can afford to download all those torrents that haven't a hope in hell of being seeded back. I'm not afraid to download 3 month old 50GB torrents when I have 500+GB to spare.
That ratio helps the people who need it most, those who arrived late on a torrent and have not been able to seed it back.

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Hey, I'm all for seed boxes and great speeds but fss, get off the torrent after you've given back 3:1 and let all the other new seeders have a shot at getting a 1:1.

Can't be bothered reading the pages in this thread but those who want big buffers have small dicks... or a sucky internet connection speed

Makes you wonder about the whole future of private torrent trackers ... The more seedboxes there are at high-levelers, the more the people will be getting one for themselves.

At some point, a 10 000 member level 5 may be all seeboxes competing for every new torrent out and may put the entire site in question.

It's great to have lightning speeds, but I'd always go for two days of 10 GB download and an easy seed than maxing out at my downstream limit.

this thread is just the rantings of a mad man. no one is actually going to listen and stop seeding so much.

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Originally Posted by furip2k

this thread is just the rantings of a mad man. no one is actually going to listen and stop seeding so much.

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Great point.

Well represented.

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Originally Posted by furip2k

this thread is just the rantings of a mad man. no one is actually going to listen and stop seeding so much.

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You are right in as much as nobody will listen or stop seeding so much :dabs: The way torrents are designed is a numbers game which you are encouraged to play. Users play the numbers game to get bigger numbers so..........let them have fun... :w00t:

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Originally Posted by benchez

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Originally Posted by furip2k

this thread is just the rantings of a mad man. no one is actually going to listen and stop seeding so much.

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You are right in as much as nobody will listen or stop seeding so much :dabs: The way torrents are designed is a numbers game which you are encouraged to play. Users play the numbers game to get bigger numbers so..........let them have fun... :w00t:

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nicely put. I personally would be sad if the seedboxes stopped at 3:1. Particularly on 0-day trackers, it's really not that hard to keep ratio as long as you build your ratio with new stuff. I still wanna be able to leech old stuff fast. Let the seedboxes seed!

If we limited the seedboxes like that, we would have a neutered torrent site. In no way is it showing off... how many lays are you gonna get by having a huge e-penis?

Just be responsible with what you leech!

people with seedboxes generally dont keep seeding from them once a torent gets old.
ive been seeding some torents for about 3 months and because im one of the few seeders left, i upload alot on them and i can easily keep my ratio/get a pretty decent buffer on home connection :)
seedboxes are good because it enables you to get the new files really fast

Skizo, You do make a valid point.

But one should also consider the benefits of having a box in the swarm.
It greatly increases the download speed for everyone that downloads it.
And speed does matter, well it does for me. If i cant hit 1MB down on a new movie or an episode i want to watch ill get a bit disappointed.

i agree with skizo on this.... seedboxes have their uses and place but, com'on already peoples... i never actually notice this issue much untill i saw this thread. but it makes perfect sense to me now.. i have witnessed the same scenarios with me uploading torrents recently and before i knew it, there were 3-4 seeds and i get nothing after the first completion of it... i personally think all trackers should limit seedbox activity.. some already ban them outright from their sites... some need notice of seedbox use or they deem you cheater and ban you..... i think some type of control like is neccessary, what the heck is someone gonna do with a 1-2-3 TB account anyways besides brag and or trade it..??

Skizo, can u insight us about Pedro's revenge ?

this topic has a better povs than the other one :)

I have to be careful with what i say here, as i am a tracker owner.

So i am just going to give you an example with my own home connection. (I do have a SB which is mainly used as a backup tracker, and ive used it once, it just felt to easy to me to get a good ratio and i didnt like it lol, i uploaded 60 gig on a crappy PS3 game in 2 days, and i just forgot all about it to get that)

Now for my example.

I have an asymetric ISP.

1800KBs or 20 meg download
90KBs or a crappy 756k upload (and i get capped to 25KBs for 5 hours a day if i upload none stop)

Now take a 7 gig brand new hot off the press hyped up 360 game.

I can download it in 30 minutes with my connection. but in 30 minutes of it being upped there is already 300 seeders and 800 leechers.

Now when i am uploading i may well get bullied out of it with all the SB users and just the other seeders.

In a day i may have uploaded 2 gig if im lucky, but now the problem is

Seeders are 1000+ leechers are 100

so its even harder to upload.

so it may take me a week if there are still leechers to reach the upload (or it might take me forever if leechers totally drop off) and thats just to get a 1 ratio.

this is the reason (well one of) for the SP mod, as long as i am seeding, and showing willing, i can get a 1:1 ratio, after i get the 1:1 i can still stay on it and hopefully increase that ratio further with a few stragglers that are left behind.

but without SB users, we would get download of 30KBs on every torrent, but then if everyone done that, it would be a lot easier to get a good ratio, so its a catch 22 situation, and nothing will solve it.

when i see Upload speeds like 25mb/s i`m going crazy with my Home connection , it`s hard to seed when there are so many seedboxes .. i`m totaly against them !

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Originally Posted by Tudor

when i see Upload speeds like 25mb/s i`m going crazy with my Home connection , it`s hard to seed when there are so many seedboxes .. i`m totaly against them !

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i never saw such speed :D

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Originally Posted by SAM

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Originally Posted by Tudor

when i see Upload speeds like 25mb/s i`m going crazy with my Home connection , it`s hard to seed when there are so many seedboxes .. i`m totaly against them !

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i never saw such speed :D

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some days ago i saw a signature of a user at TL , showing his utorrent stats , and one of his torrents was at 31 MB/s , @ScT

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Originally Posted by stoi

this is the reason (well one of) for the SP mod, as long as i am seeding, and showing willing, i can get a 1:1 ratio, after i get the 1:1 i can still stay on it and hopefully increase that ratio further with a few stragglers that are left behind.

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Never appreciated the genius of the system until I saw it first hand.
Simple ideas are usually the best aren't they.

Ok we need servers for speed, but SP mod is the best because if a user really try get a 1:1 ratio client on etc.. but is impossible he is a good user. Is one more for torrent don't die.


No ratio sites ftw or some with bonus points.

hey skizo pm me ill let "you" have a slot on mine if you like through web ui

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Originally Posted by weenden

hey skizo pm me ill let "you" have a slot on mine if you like through web ui

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Topic is 6 months old :)

Was bumped due to the other seedbox thread.

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Originally Posted by weenden

hey skizo pm me ill let "you" have a slot on mine if you like through web ui

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Thanks a bunch, but I don't see the need right now.

The only trackers I use anymore are E**** and Waffles and both have decent buffers from uploading new content.

My E**** has a buffer of 116.73 GB.
My Waffles has a buffer of 35.71 GB.

I'd really like to add on to that Waffles buffer since I download a lot of tunes, but that's a tough tracker to buffer.

ohh, now I know who u r :)

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Originally Posted by Skizo

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Originally Posted by weenden

hey skizo pm me ill let "you" have a slot on mine if you like through web ui

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Thanks a bunch, but I don't see the need right now.

The only trackers I use anymore are E**** and Waffles and both have decent buffers from uploading new content.

My E**** has a buffer of 116.73 GB.
My Waffles has a buffer of 35.71 GB.

I'd really like to add on to that Waffles buffer since I download a lot of tunes, but that's a tough tracker to buffer.

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skizo my tip for waffles and for you set up rss in utorrent for the future torrent that have more votes in request section ;)
really works

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Originally Posted by Skizo

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Originally Posted by weenden

hey skizo pm me ill let "you" have a slot on mine if you like through web ui

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Thanks a bunch, but I don't see the need right now.

The only trackers I use anymore are E**** and Waffles and both have decent buffers from uploading new content.

My E**** has a buffer of 116.73 GB.
My Waffles has a buffer of 35.71 GB.

I'd really like to add on to that Waffles buffer since I download a lot of tunes, but that's a tough tracker to buffer.

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If you have the capacity, just permanently seed Operating Systems DVDs, and keeping them up to date with the latest version works wonders.

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Originally Posted by F3n1x

skizo my tip for waffles and for you set up rss in utorrent for the future torrent that have more votes in request section ;)
really works

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I wouldn't have the first clue on where to start tbh. :unsure:

I'm a bit old fashioned and have never used RSS links. I don't even know if I've even clicked one. :ermm:

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

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Originally Posted by Skizo

Thanks a bunch, but I don't see the need right now.

The only trackers I use anymore are E**** and Waffles and both have decent buffers from uploading new content.

My E**** has a buffer of 116.73 GB.
My Waffles has a buffer of 35.71 GB.

I'd really like to add on to that Waffles buffer since I download a lot of tunes, but that's a tough tracker to buffer.

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If you have the capacity, just permanently seed Operating Systems DVDs, and keeping them up to date with the latest version works wonders.

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O rly? :smilie4:

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Originally Posted by (+.[___]·:·)

ohh, now I know who u r :)

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Doubtful. :whistling

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Originally Posted by Skizo

I wouldn't have the first clue on where to start tbh. :unsure:

I'm a bit old fashioned and have never used RSS links. I don't even know if I've even clicked one. :ermm:

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Originally Posted by SgtMajor

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Originally Posted by Skizo

Thanks a bunch, but I don't see the need right now.

The only trackers I use anymore are E**** and Waffles and both have decent buffers from uploading new content.

My E**** has a buffer of 116.73 GB.
My Waffles has a buffer of 35.71 GB.

I'd really like to add on to that Waffles buffer since I download a lot of tunes, but that's a tough tracker to buffer.

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If you have the capacity, just permanently seed Operating Systems DVDs, and keeping them up to date with the latest version works wonders.

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O rly? :smilie4:

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skizo i will pm you my tutorial just give me a hours and explain how my buffer is over 150gb ;) there

dooooooooh! topic six months old .....my bad

Let me introduce my little friend...

/me logs into his swarm-killing, Swedish hosted, Gigabit seedbox from hell...:gunsmile:




Actually it'd be a total blast...even for just a week so. :naughty: