What I Hate About Music.

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Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 03:19

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linkin park isn't RAP anything...

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your overruled. <_<

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Linkin Park is NOT rock. Rap metal yes but not rap rock. Get your facts straight.

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what part about linkin park&#39;s music makes them metal. they use a little electronics. maybe at beginnings of songs. they don&#39;t even scream that much. just in small parts of songs. what convinces you that they&#39;re metal? :huh:

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Metal doesn&#39;t have to have screaming and grinding guitars to be metal. I cant describe that makes Linkin Park metal but I know they are not rock.

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Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 04:19

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linkin park isn&#39;t RAP anything...

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your overruled. <_<

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damn

i need to take that gavel away from you

:P

in my opinion... when you say metal. metal means hardcore. some screaming and some loud high guitar sounds. pretty much they are a louder and more hardcore than rock. like slipknot. they&#39;re just out of control.

linkin park is too sings really low and calm and everynow and then breaks out. but it&#39;s all just opinion. :rolleyes: we can just say thier rap/rock/metal. but i think they fall into the same category as kid rock and lb.

How many times do i have to say this

Linkin Park is not RAP or METAL&#33;&#33;

there guitar playing sux no solos and a pthetic treble sound

no metal doesnt have to have screaming ect. jsut listen to some power metal Like Drea Theater

Linkin Parks music is too basic and easy

I remember the day people were trying to say Nirvana are metal, no way&#33; ever heard of Grunge?

Faith No More their early stuff had Mike rapping at times and were they called rap metal??? Not at all&#33;

groups like

Limp Bizkit
POD
Paupa Roach
Linkin Park

Ect

have this new so called new sound which doesn&#39;t appeal to me at all who cares what the Genre is??

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damn

i need to take that gavel away from you

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B) :D

ok hogster :blink: mr. know it all. we&#39;re just giving out opinions. we&#39;re not criticizing what others say. :angry:

since you know everything... what genre are they? come on tell us about limp bizkit, linkin park and all the bands you hate. i guess thier not even music are they.

Did I say their not music??? no I didn&#39;t at all I said they have there own genre you really want a genre cal them alternative pop/ Rock

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Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 03:37
since you know everything... what genre are they?

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Nu-Metal. :P either nu-metal or rapcore. Both of which are in a sub-category of metal I like to call "Trash Metal." But that is just the feeble opinion of a very socially repressed teenager who is too damn cheap to buy cds.

uh ohh better get the :flame: out

am i the only one who just calls it music?

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am i the only one who just calls it music?

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http://www.spacespider.net/emo/doa16.gif

doesn&#39;t work HMPL :(

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Did I say their not music??? no I didn&#39;t at all I said they have there own genre you really want a genre cal them alternative pop/ Rock

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ok i might agree with alternative rock. they are alternative rock also. but i still they rap a little.

maybe we should just start another topic and see other people&#39;s opinions?

eh ok ;) back to the topic. the only thing i don&#39;t like about music is much of it is headed by the riaa. pretty much it.

dmorgan89: Linkin Park is nu-metal. Nu-metal is a highly polished, over produced, poppy, and accessible version of metal. Its more or less the complete opposite of what makes up real metal. Nu-metal also happens to suck.

And please don&#39;t use my custom title, I&#39;m pretty sure thats against the rules anyway.

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dmorgan89: Linkin Park is nu-metal. Nu-metal is a highly polished, over produced, poppy, and accessible version of metal. Its more or less the complete opposite of what makes up real metal. Nu-metal also happens to suck.

And please don&#39;t use my custom title, I&#39;m pretty sure thats against the rules anyway

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:blink: ok whatever you say. i&#39;m giving up on this discussion.

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dmorgan89: Linkin Park is nu-metal. Nu-metal is a highly polished, over produced, poppy, and accessible version of metal. Its more or less the complete opposite of what makes up real metal. Nu-metal also happens to suck.

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lol thats so true espically that last line

Im so glad i been asleep for 8 hours while all this utter BS is being said...

Plus i had this cool dream where i had this club (like the one from Gangs Of New York)...And yeah i got kill everyone i ever hated...Gawd that was fun...

The thing is this thread was labeled and I quote "what I hate about music"

It said it all that names so this is the thread that it was asking for

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Originally posted by Hogster@30 July 2003 - 14:30
The thing is this thread was labeled and I quote "what I hate about music"

It said it all that names so this is the thread that it was asking for

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Well i thought what i dreamt about was better than adding to all the b&#33;tching and whining thats going on...

All this arguing over what kind of music Linkin Park makes... :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Sparsely
I find genres pretty irritating, though. Either you end up lumping everything into vague Rock, Rap, Country, R&B,
and possibly Jazz & Blues, which makes the picky people angry (that&#39;s not rock that&#39;s Nu-Metal).
Or you have 100 sub genres to remember, and who fits in what category, and which album was really more
Lo-Fi than Ska-Alterna-Hip-Hop-Hardcore-Emo-Punk.
I just say, "I got the new Spiritualized CD."
People say, "Who&#39;s that? What&#39;re they like?"
I say, "Like going to church on lots of drugs. With guitars. And a congregation who&#39;s just about lost its faith."

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But nobody ever listens to me.... <_<
I should&#39;ve never given this thread a serious answer.

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Originally posted by Sparsely+30 July 2003 - 14:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sparsely @ 30 July 2003 - 14:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> All this arguing over what kind of music Linkin Park makes... :rolleyes:

<!--QuoteBegin-Sparsely
I find genres pretty irritating, though. Either you end up lumping everything into vague Rock, Rap, Country, R&B,
and possibly Jazz & Blues, which makes the picky people angry (that&#39;s not rock that&#39;s Nu-Metal).
Or you have 100 sub genres to remember, and who fits in what category, and which album was really more
Lo-Fi than Ska-Alterna-Hip-Hop-Hardcore-Emo-Punk.
I just say, "I got the new Spiritualized CD."
People say, "Who&#39;s that? What&#39;re they like?"
I say, "Like going to church on lots of drugs. With guitars. And a congregation who&#39;s just about lost its faith."

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But nobody ever listens to me.... <_<
I should&#39;ve never given this thread a serious answer. [/b][/quote]
not many people listen to serious answers...

they are more after the stupid answers so they can flame a person

*sighs* ;)

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Originally posted by Celerystalksme@30 July 2003 - 05:41
not many people listen to serious answers...

they are more after the stupid answers so they can flame a person

*sighs* ;)

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i eat rabbits. a lot. especially all the really fluffy ones

:P

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Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+30 July 2003 - 14:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 30 July 2003 - 14:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Celerystalksme@30 July 2003 - 05:41
not many people listen to serious answers...

they are more after the stupid answers so they can flame a person

*sighs* ;)

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i eat rabbits. a lot. especially all the really fluffy ones

:P [/b][/quote]
Im all for the dead rabbits :lol:

plus Linkin Park is METAL :lol: :lol:

so did some reasearch.

Nu Metal Find: Select search type an artist an album a songEnter your search query




Nu Metal is the latest form of Heavy Metal. Whereas traditional Heavy Metal and Thrash play straight rhythms with power and speed, Nu Metal slows down the tempo and turns up the groove. The vocals are usually non-melodic and often hip-hop influenced. As with all forms of Heavy Metal, the guitar is still at the center of the music, but many Nu Metal bands have expanded out from the standard guitar, bass, and drum combo to include additional musicians, including DJs, multiple vocalists, and sample artists. The pioneering works of Nu Metal include Faith No More&#39;s &#39;The Real Thing&#39; and Helmet&#39;s &#39;Meantime.&#39; ~H. Tait, MSN Music


so it&#39;s rap/rock.
Key Artists & Composers

Korn
Deftones
Disturbed
Nonpoint
Papa Roach
Linkin Park
P.O.D. (Payable On Death)
Downset
Shootyz Groove
Dog Eat Dog
Coal Chamber
Godsmack
Crazy Town
Kid Rock
Rage Against the Machine
Powerman 5000
Nothingface

hip hop is not rap...

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Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 04:53
so did some reasearch.

Nu Metal Find: Select search type an artist an album a songEnter your search query


Nu Metal is the latest form of Heavy Metal. Whereas traditional Heavy Metal and Thrash play straight rhythms with power and speed, Nu Metal slows down the tempo and turns up the groove. The vocals are usually non-melodic and often hip-hop influenced. As with all forms of Heavy Metal, the guitar is still at the center of the music, but many Nu Metal bands have expanded out from the standard guitar, bass, and drum combo to include additional musicians, including DJs, multiple vocalists, and sample artists. The pioneering works of Nu Metal include Faith No More&#39;s &#39;The Real Thing&#39; and Helmet&#39;s &#39;Meantime.&#39; ~H. Tait, MSN Music

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OOH where did you find that at?

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Originally posted by dmorgan89@30 July 2003 - 14:53
so did some reasearch.

Nu Metal Find: Select search type an artist an album a songEnter your search query




Nu Metal is the latest form of Heavy Metal. Whereas traditional Heavy Metal and Thrash play straight rhythms with power and speed, Nu Metal slows down the tempo and turns up the groove. The vocals are usually non-melodic and often hip-hop influenced. As with all forms of Heavy Metal, the guitar is still at the center of the music, but many Nu Metal bands have expanded out from the standard guitar, bass, and drum combo to include additional musicians, including DJs, multiple vocalists, and sample artists. The pioneering works of Nu Metal include Faith No More&#39;s &#39;The Real Thing&#39; and Helmet&#39;s &#39;Meantime.&#39; ~H. Tait, MSN Music


so it&#39;s rap/rock.
Key Artists & Composers

Korn
Deftones
Disturbed
Nonpoint
Papa Roach
Linkin Park
P.O.D. (Payable On Death)
Downset
Shootyz Groove
Dog Eat Dog
Coal Chamber
Godsmack
Crazy Town
Kid Rock
Rage Against the Machine
Powerman 5000
Nothingface

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Disturbed = Metal
Coal Chamber = Metal (a weird out there sorta metal)

But yeah im over it all

no one will ever change my mind on anything cause i can be a stubborn bastard when i want to be...

So Fuck The Police/RIAA/MPAA/The World...

The thing is there&#39;s no definitive categorization.
Just because that guy got his published on MSN, there are probably 100 different
people with lists/articles, whatever, categorizing them as thrash, whiny-whiteboy-rap, pop, crap, Nu-whatever, etc.

It&#39;s not solvable. It&#39;s just music. It&#39;s just Linkin Park.
People that want to know what category it falls under usually aren&#39;t music fans anyway.
They only want to stay within their chosen genre. That&#39;s why it&#39;s so important to categorize it properly.

Fuck it. I&#39;mma listen to Strauss, then The Beta Band, then The Geto Boys, then Merle Haggard.
Cause I like music. Whatever you wanna call it. :P

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Originally posted by Sparsely@30 July 2003 - 15:00
The thing is there&#39;s no definitive categorization.
Just because that guy got his published on MSN, there are probably 100 different
people with lists/articles, whatever, categorizing them as thrash, whiny-whiteboy-rap, pop, crap, Nu-whatever, etc.

It&#39;s not solvable. It&#39;s just music. It&#39;s just Linkin Park.
People that want to know what category it falls under usually aren&#39;t music fans anyway.
They only want to stay within their chosen genre. That&#39;s why it&#39;s so important to categorize it properly.

Fuck it. I&#39;mma listen to Strauss, then The Beta Band, then The Geto Boys, then Merle Haggard.
Cause I like music. Whatever you wanna call it. :P

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Im Gonna Listen To Corpoarte Avenger...Least not many people have heard of them...so they can&#39;t go wah wah wah about them...

Godsmack is grunge btw

Deftones metal
Cool Chamber Metal

Disturbed well a bit of both The Game is a real metal song

the rest so called NU crapo metal

BTW Slipknot is Nu-Metal&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

Yes they scream but they are not "out of control&#33;" If you want real metal listen to...

Extol
As I Lay Dying
Zao


I could name more, but I don&#39;t feel like going through my CD collection. Those are "out of control" metal bands.

Thats my 2 cents.

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Originally posted by Hogster@30 July 2003 - 15:14
Godsmack is grunge btw

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Godsmack is Gay :lol:

well i didn&#39;t make them up. i just did the research. i wouldn&#39;t say hip-hop is different from rap. i dont think people know the difference. eminem says he&#39;s hip-hop then he says he&#39;s a rapper. they refer to nelly as a rapper, but according to him "i&#39;m tired of people judging what&#39;s real hip-hop, half the time be da nigga&#39;s who album drop".

hogster is the forum&#39;s genre labeler. he beats the professionals. <_<


hell yeah i like this nu-metal stuff. i just found my favorite genre.

Page about nu metal. Full information about nu metal bands: Coal Chamber, Deftones, Evanescence, ill Niño, Kittie, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Mudvayne, Papa Roach, P.O.D, Slipknot, Soulfly, Spineshank, Static-X, Stone Sour, System Of A Down , Taproot and more...

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Seite über nu metal. Alle Informationen uber nu metal bände wie: Coal Chamber, Deftones, Evanescence, ill Niño, Kittie, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Mudvayne, Papa Roach, P.O.D, Slipknot, Soulfly, Spineshank, Static-X, Stone Sour, System Of A Down , Taproot und mehr...

most of my favorite artists are nu-metal - korn, il nino, linkin park, limpbizkit, mudvayne, papa roach. system of a down, p.o.d.

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Originally posted by dmorg@ quoting Nelly
"i&#39;m tired of people judging what&#39;s real hip-hop, half the time be da nigga&#39;s who album drop".

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WHAT???? :blink:

it&#39;s a quote from one of nelly&#39;s songs called #1

dmorgan89 I ahev study Music and have 2 degrees at uni with it I shoudl knwo what i&#39;m talking about. I hope you don&#39;t think those bands you mentioned are metal??? read my list I did early about whats a REAL metal band. and 2nd Gen Noob can give a lsit about whos a REAL rapper