Trading invites....Please read

why don't you come along ?
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yes supper , he can call me anytime he likes
but don't get mad at us , it isn't our fault that you are not even good at trading :(

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Originally Posted by supper

DO U THINK the club owner will be happey when u give invites to ppl u dont even know like candy?

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i invited two people: spark and a good girlfriend of his.

and yes, the club owner is very happy. in fact they make very sexy moves on the dancefloor :D

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

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Originally Posted by supper

DO U THINK the club owner will be happey when u give invites to ppl u dont even know like candy?

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i invited two people: spark and a good girlfriend of his.

and yes, the club owner is very happy. in fact they make very sexy moves on the dancefloor :D

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http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...iveaway-239650





http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...iveaway-239640

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...te-poll-240051

there is more :D:huh: btw the sec link was giveing away ( account ) thats even worse

why u dont make FTN giveaway or FSC too or just the low levels accept the giveaways ?polar no harm but relly i want u to get what u want and any tracker u need thats why we all here and dont be so serious about something its the first place for fun if u have belives then just keep it to ur self we are here to share the invites and help each other and get what ever we need no more so peace plz

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Originally Posted by supper

there is more :D:huh:

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:wub: mmmh, baby. i turns me on when you browse through my post history. please give me more you sexy little boy. :kiss:

Those last two link have me laughing so hard. :D

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

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Originally Posted by supper

there is more :D:huh:

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:wub: mmmh, baby. i turns me on when you browse through my post history. please give me more you sexy little boy. :kiss:

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oh try to ask the owner club that u did giveaways in fst by his invites and see what he will do he will be happy :D or mad:angry:

in onther word ( hey admn i made by ur own tracker some giveaways to day and i got rep point for it :w00t: how do u feel admin are u happy

and admn said ( :w00t:wow relly i love to give invites of my own tracker to strangers. :yahoo: take more invites plz )
( give me a break )

supper , dear
why you messing with bears?!

seriously,
we don't need to flame each other
everyone has his own beliefs and opinions and we have to respect them

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Originally Posted by supper

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

:wub: mmmh, baby. i turns me on when you browse through my post history. please give me more you sexy little boy. :kiss:

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oh try to ask the owner club that u did giveaways in fst by his invites and see what he will do he will be happy :D or mad:angry:

( give me a break )

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sorry kiddo, playtime is over. gotta watch prison break now.

en t

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Originally Posted by SAM

supper , dear
why you messing with bears?!

seriously,
we don't need to flame each other
everyone has his own beliefs and opinions and we have to respect them

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when they do by what they are saying i will respact i just hate to be plastic nothing personal though;)

I think trading has its pros and cons i personally dont trade but i get so sick of all these anti traders picking at the traders.. who are you to cast a stone? i mean how many of us actually follow rules around here?

Your the RIAA of the BT world. If there idiots they will get banned on there own trust me. No need to poke them with a stick and call them names. There breaking the rules and dragging you community down by inviting random people? if a tracker opens it doors to the public is that the same thing? I understand getting pissy when people are trading invites to a private community that has never had open sign ups.. but i dont get the other situation.

I have so many mixed emotions about this topic but i can promise you i dont care if you trade your invites as long as your smart about it.

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Originally Posted by Diiyad

I don't care if people trade invites. Personally I don't trade, for obvious reasons, but if people want to swap invites they will both get disabled if the torrent site is against it. Even if they don't get caught the first time ... the seconds time, the third time, then they get hit with a chain ban that goes back to open sign ups. What irritates me the most is when I see people with "anti-trader" in their signatures.

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hey, where you are from...We both have the same mind set. lol
But the anti-traders.... its rather funny to me than irritating.:lol:

Personally the true funny is when anti traders finally get a few invites from giveaways, then start acting like total bigshots, giving out advice to others (esp tracdrs) like they are high and mighty, rather than some guy who begged extremely hard for long enough to get an invite.

Where as I on the other hand dislike all the fencesitters, it's like some kind of new age hippy-ism, ' I don't trade but I don't see anything wrong with it , why can't we all just live in peace and knit yoghurt ? At least the traders and those against trading have the courage of their convictions and are not afraid to stand up for them. I enjoy the debate, I have come to respect and understand other points of view because of it and the debate has taught me much. But to just stand there in the middle and say self righteously I don't , and then go on to babble on about how much you would like every one to be nice and fluffy............ FOR FUCKS SAKE GROW SOME BALLS!

This is a forum it is a vibrant community everyone has different opinions thats what makes it great not this new age love everyone crap!

i don't give a fuck about trading :)
how is this sound "courage"
i don't think so

another thing

i see these debates for many months now and nothing changes.
traders will never quit and anti-traders will never stop nagging and crying every time a trader post a thread .
it's pointless, as long as FST allows trading to tell people to stop because they will never stop.
i don't trade and i don't like trading . this my belief.
why do i have to force it on other people , why i have to breach them every minute of the day if i know it's useless .
talking and words and those posts and treads won't do anything at all.
there are here trackers admins and staff members from every tracker in the world.they are watching daily their tracker accounts and invites trading and giving away against their trackers rules and what they do
nothing
it's no use
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Originally Posted by Polarbear

i just wanted to give everyone an easy to understand example why trading is bad.


imagine you are an owner of a new club. you spent a lot of time and work on it to establish the best club in town.

you decide to make it a private club, because you want to party exclusively with your friends and cool people who you know and trust.

so you hand out membership cards to your friends and selected people.

every membership card has the receipients name on it and is property of the club. it has the words "non-transferable" written in bold letters on it.

unfortunately after some time you recognize, that a group of people gave their membership cards away to strangers. some traded them for other clubs, some sold them, some just gave them to unknown people on the street.

now every evening more and more strangers show up in your club who behave badly, cheat and don't pay their drinks.

so you enforce the rule, that people are not allowed to give their cards to others and only use them for themselves. i mean first of all you invited cool people to your club and not some douchebags.

then you hire a bouncer, that throws out all the people who have no right to be in the club, because they didn't get the membership from you but traded for it.

those bouncers have a real hard job, because all those losers are wining, bitching and keep arguing in front of the door. i costs you a lot of money and even more stupid strangers show up that you simply don't want in your club.

now everyone (including the good members who kept their cards) is pretty pissed at those who traded them away to strangers, because they are the ones who betrayed the club and ruined all the fun.


i hope some traders get the message.

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LOL

that's not funny :(
please edit your post

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Originally Posted by SAM

that's not funny :(
please edit your post

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Sam a simple question for you and the crux of my post, why should the debate change ? I am saying that debate is healthy, if you cannot stand it why on earth are you on such a public forum ?

i can stand it :)
but i see it useless
i guess that's my right

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Originally Posted by Diiyad

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Originally Posted by SAM

that's not funny :(
please edit your post

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Rofl. If only the whole internet was as spineless as you. There would never be arguements.

"You suck!"
"Thats not funny"
"Oh sorry, i take back what i said"

next time
i won't ask him to edit
@Diiyad
i'm very sorry , man

I really hope that was sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by pandabear

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Originally Posted by Diiyad

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Rofl. If only the whole internet was as spineless as you. There would never be arguements.

"You suck!"
"Thats not funny"
"Oh sorry, i take back what i said"

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I just remembered how gay the moderators are here... one more infraction and I'm banned.

I do note that the yoghurt knitters seem to have headed for the hills ?

awww come back.............. we can all live in peace and harmony and love one another and eat bean curd :naughty:

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

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Originally Posted by supper

there is more :D:huh:

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:wub: mmmh, baby. i turns me on when you browse through my post history. please give me more you sexy little boy. :kiss:

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stop picking on supper,every time you do that,..
nobody is perfect every one learns from their share of mistakes.....you r 36 years old atleast your profile says so...you should know better about how to behave and how things work.
you have went thru posting history of someone else just to put down some one...dont you like the taste of your own medicine
and whatever supper says makes total sense, what were u thinking when u made those giveaways,because those trackers are lower level dont their rules mean anything to you.."

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Originally Posted by Polarbear

now everyone (including the good members who kept their cards) is pretty pissed at those who traded them away to strangers, because they are the ones who betrayed the club and ruined all the fun."

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" what about all the ruined fun when you invited those strangers and betrayed the club ...all that big posts trying to teach/preach everyone ..do those words even mean anything to you?

Stop talking out of your arse. Waffles does not forbid giveaways in their rules. I suggest you take a second and think before you make your next post.

Simple: Everyone should respect Tracker site rules and do as requested.

Otherwise they can be banned and ridiculed.

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Originally Posted by pandabear

Stop talking out of your arse. Waffles does not forbid giveaways in their rules. I suggest you take a second and think before you make your next post.

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i dont want to fight about it or try and offend you with words,its just not worth it....... but here are a few giveaways..."rSR giveaway" "IT giveaway" by him...may be you should think before you start talking out of your arse....it wont take more then a second

I agree also - no need to let people confused with many threads in which they'are not very intereted in.

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Originally Posted by hyhkorea

I agree also - no need to let people confused with many threads in which they'are not very intereted in.

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I repeat again , if you are not interested in the threads why on earth are you even here ?

Because we can?

It amazes me how this debate typically progresses. It usually starts out reasonably enough, with those who deplore the practice of trading stating the facts that originally led them to that conclusion. By that, I mean facts such as: it's against tracker rules, it puts trackers at risk, it jeopardizes entire invite trees, etc.

I would expect the other side to respond with their own facts extolling the virtues of invite or account trading, e.g. it provides liquidity in the tracker "commodity market", it provides access to people who don't have the communication skills or integrity to seem trustworthy enough to be given a free invite, etc. (I am admittedly reaching, because I don't agree with trading in principle.) Pro-traders could undoubtedly come up with better arguments.

But they don't...

The least pugnacious retort is something like: "I'll trade all I want, and I don't care what anyone else thinks." Well, at least it's honest. I'm glad, though, this doesn't represent the vast majority of bit torrent community members, because there would be very little file sharing taking place. For that matter, there wouldn't have been many collaborating coders and web designers to have started the trackers in the first place with attitudes like that.

The pro-trading tactics I find most objectionable are those that personally attack members who state opposing views. Comments about someone not acting their age or speculations about a member's sexual preference tend to degrade their side's credibility and draw attention to the vacuous nature of their arguments. Attempts to brand vocal opponents as hypocrites does not serve the pro-trading cause very well either, except perhaps as only a distraction from an apparently unsupportable position. I find it laughable that Polarbear was singled out here in that way. I can't think of anyone in this forum with more integrity than he has, and I though his arguments and his analogy were right on target. I was surprised that links were chosen that actually proved that Polarbear showed due diligence in selecting invitees to Waffles and Libble. The poster had to go all the way back to his first two giveaways as a newcomer to the invites section to find what might remotely be seen as casual giveaways to lessor known trackers. And the one asking advice on how to start a poll? The only reason I can think of for adding that one is to look like one more example of hypocrisy to those readers who didn't check the links and assumed they all had some sort of validity. They didn't.

If I may be so presumptuous as to offer some advice to my pro-trading friends, I would simply recommend that when participating in threads like this, just state your case. Many people have open minds here and you just might win people over, recruiting more traders, producing access to more trackers, thus improving you own chances to obtain more trophies, and achieve higher status! Attacking anti trading members tends to create sympathy for them, and ultimately hurts your argument. It might also create some hard feelings that can come back to haunt you.

damn whitmar... you don't give 2 cents, you give thousands of dollars, lol

I say let people trade, it provides a bigger community to the tracker. Yes, some may be cheaters but there are also cheaters with good communications skills that can make friends and still get the invite, so it doesn't matter. Better to let him get the invite by trading, so he gets banned sooner.

Sorry for the double post. Don't know how that happened.

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Originally Posted by Diiyad

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Originally Posted by pandabear

Rofl. If only the whole internet was as spineless as you. There would never be arguements.

"You suck!"
"Thats not funny"
"Oh sorry, i take back what i said"

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I just remembered how gay the moderators are here... one more infraction and I'm banned.

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If you don't like us or how we moderate, I'd be more than willing to assist you in fucking off. :happy:

he means happy skizo, dont take it to hard

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Originally Posted by stoi

My 2 cents here, even though some of my staff disagree with me.

Invite trading i dont realy care about. lets say we opened another tracker, (we are games atm, so lets say a music tracker) we gave invites out. The trader want`s a movie tracker, but the person on the movie tracker want`s a Music tracker, so they trade and we hopefully get a good member, and he might even become a better member than the trader.

but i suppose thats because we are a specialist tracker. I can understand these top lvl sites not wanting invite trading, as the trader might go to another top lvl site and like that better and never come back (im sure its not the only reason they don`t like it but its one of them i bet).

and if you trade and your invitee is a cheater (could happen in a giveaway on a public forum and to a personal friend as well) then just take the invites away from them.

What i dont agree with is Account trading, but as that isnt the subject of this post, i will let that one go.

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We share the same view my friend. Invite trading i'm not really against. (Don't engage in it, but have offered exchanges in the past not knowing some perceive it to be trading, so i don't do that anymore) Now account trading is a no no, I am an anti-trader and don't like to offer my services to those members (unless you have a really really good compelling story about how you reformed from trading, still probably won't get an invite from me though) But i agree account traders risk others people accounts getting banned and the trackers quality degrading cause of the influx of possibly more traders int he future. Thats my one to all real talk.;)

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Originally Posted by Diiyad

I just remembered how gay the moderators are here... one more infraction and I'm banned.

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If you don't like us or how we moderate, I'd be more than willing to assist you in fucking off. :happy:

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:lol:

Wow this thread really took off, Its good to see some conversation atleast but can we atleast try and be nice to eachother. There is no need to pick on anyone. we all have our beliefs and we should respect others.

Jon

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Originally Posted by Skizo

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Originally Posted by Diiyad

I just remembered how gay the moderators are here... one more infraction and I'm banned.

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If you don't like us or how we moderate, I'd be more than willing to assist you in fucking off. :happy:

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+1 roflmfao

No more 'gay' than you pming me begging for an FTN invite after your very first post here! :lol: