I have been wondering this same question myself for a while now just never asked.
Glad to see so many answers along with good ideas.
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I have been wondering this same question myself for a while now just never asked.
Glad to see so many answers along with good ideas.
I am having multiple accounts here...........Quote:
Originally Posted by grimms
Well i'll just have to make note of you then.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by prasadah
how does it sounds.....if possible read also my above post......Mr, read this if you could understand "w3 @R3 7H3 R3@l HaCkErS aNd H@Ck3d B3F0R3 U WeRe b0rN.F00l 50m30N3 Wh0 Iz n3wLy B0Rn.w3 r3@lly h@73 gU7$
but i am just kidding....i wont cheat...if you want the proof...you will get reply from a inviter to bitme who invited me....and dont mistake me cos I am just pretending as a cheater....
what good ideas you got from this thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by lostdemon
Wait I'm confused. What exactly did you do? =/Quote:
Originally Posted by NekohDot
EDIT: Ohhhhh... crap, I didn't even think of that. Damn.
I thought this was pretty goodQuote:
Originally Posted by grimms
It wont work all the times because if person asks the profile link along withQuote:
Originally Posted by lostdemonI thought this was pretty goodQuote:
Originally Posted by grimms
screen shot????
Thought so too but other members have mentioned ways yo circumvent that has well. I don't know.:huh: I'm confused. All i want to do is invite a good user and get invited by a good user. Don't want or need to be scammed, or cheated. But i guess people can photoshop their ratio proofs. I never even thought about that until this thread was made.:unsure: Now i just have to be more harsh with my giveaway rules.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by lostdemonI thought this was pretty goodQuote:
Originally Posted by grimms
may i know your modified giveaway rulesQuote:
Originally Posted by grimms.:unsure: Now i just have to be more harsh with my giveaway rules.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by lostdemon
I'll have to come up with some good new ones. To circumvent cheaters and traders (to the best of my ability),but i'll watch for you. Hows that?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by prasadahmay i know your modified giveaway rulesQuote:
Originally Posted by grimms
if i have multiple accounts here :naughty:Quote:
Originally Posted by grimmsI'll have to come up with some good new ones. To circumvent cheaters and traders (to the best of my ability),but i'll watch for you. Hows that?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by prasadah
as far as i can see, and most are not going to like this, but dont use public forums at all.
if the tracker has an external invites thread, do it in there.
we have one that is for PU and up only, but if your a PU you cant see other PU stats, if you are an SPU you can though.
but do your giveaways there, just dont go pming the staff to check up on a potential invitee for you, we may do it once, but not if you keep asking.
I have thought of that. But the reason why i haven't as of yet is due to all the people that have helped me out on FST. I feel like i need to give back for what i was given. I don't do public giveaway's with high level invites. I do that via pm or through a specific tracker forum section where PU's hang.:). Yea with all this ratio cheating and trading i may take this advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
If you have multiple accounts with alot of post in each one you must have alot to say with a whole lot of time and no life to do something like that.But hey to each his own.
I was thinking that too, real deceptive. It urks me even more cause he's boasting about it publicly which gives me the impression that he doesn't care or respect rules (keyword impression).:dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by lostdemon
I never ask for ratio proofs. I ask for links
Let's say someone provides 3 links to trackers.
Pick one of them and PM him/her there
If no answer, no invite
Simple.. isn't it?
Thats what i started doing but some members say they have a cheat bot. I don't think a cheat bot would know "Hey tell me the forum and invite i'm going to give you" will circumvent that message in a pm me though. Good advice Blue Skies. Profile links and pm's to be extra safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
Its actually quite fun making fake ratio shots now :D
And stoi, i thought you can see any classes stats in forums. I always see the stats of people when the post there.
Thats what I thought grimms meant which is why I said this was a good idea but yet prasadah is saying it won't workQuote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
Ok guys, the next time you do a giveway; all I need to do is just give the links to my profiles...
I am good at photoshop, but never think of using it to cheat.
Hmm...Quote:
Originally Posted by pandabear
@lostdemon
Thanks yes i was advised to do it that way by a couple of trusted members here.
man read my posts properly i already said in my prev post ....i dont have multiple accounts...Quote:
Originally Posted by grimmsI was thinking that too, real deceptive. It urks me even more cause he's boasting about it publicly which gives me the impression that he doesn't care or respect rules (keyword impression).:dry:Quote:
Originally Posted by lostdemon
was trying to prove that you cannot find a perfect way to catch the cheaters.....no need to spend the whole life to increase posts for different profile....consider 3 profiles...good bad and neutral.......
5 posts daily it takes around 10 mins...if you are clever enough you can replies to your posts itself...i mean mutual replies between multiple accounts...
you can see their upload/dl ratio in the forums.
butif your a higher class you can see their entire torrent history as well. the idea is so a higher class member can help the lower class member out of any trouble they might have got themselves into, not to ridicule them lol
again and agian same repliesQuote:
Originally Posted by lostdemonThats what I thought grimms meant which is why I said this was a good idea but yet prasadah is saying it won't workQuote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
yes it wont work........i have a big research on cheat mods.........
impossible to catch cheaters even for sct thebox bitmetv
I don't know why it wouldn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by lostdemonThats what I thought grimms meant which is why I said this was a good idea but yet prasadah is saying it won't workQuote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
Verification of the user on the other site seems sound to me. Prasadah brings up the point that cheater clients do exsit, which the trackers already know about and deal with daily. But that's really old news.
The flaw I wanted to pointed out was that screen shots are all too easily doctored - seemed as if every thread I looked at in the invite section was requesting them.
Then it was pointed out that it's not even necessary to photoshop an image - just pull up the page and edit a little code and your ratio can be whatever you want it to be.
(Do I smell a sticky??)
one thing i have to tell you if you are the real owner in BCG(no special stars)Quote:
Originally Posted by stoi
again no use.....because bcg is not a site like sct bitmetv or thebox.....
you dont have anticheat scripts......untill you prepare a script
Whewwwwww.. Serious? I didn't know you could even do that.:OQuote:
Originally Posted by Broken
Yea, post 29 in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by grimmsWhewwwwww.. Serious? I didn't know you could even do that.:OQuote:
Originally Posted by Broken
Pull up the page's code, edit in the stats you want, load the edited page it into your browser.
Take a screen shot.
Well? all i can do is use my best judgement with what i require in my giveaway's and hope for the best.
English is not my native....so i didnot understand your reply completelyQuote:
Originally Posted by BrokenI don't know why it wouldn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by lostdemon
Verification of the user on the other site seems sound to me. Prasadah brings up the point that cheater clients do exsit, which the trackers already know about and deal with daily. But that's really old news.
The flaw I wanted to pointed out was that screen shots are all too easily doctored - seemed as if every thread I looked at in the invite section was requesting them.
Then it was pointed out that it's not even necessary to photoshop an image - just pull up the page and edit a little code and your ratio can be whatever you want it to be.
(Do I smell a sticky??)
are you going to say is it difficult to cheat the ratios using cheat mods????
if so here is my answer........
it is difficult to cheat only in sct iptorrents and 2 more sites that too only for time being......i dont think trackers like sct iptorrents etc have the staffs are really smart.....there are more smart people among the users...i mean technically strong people...so they update cheat mods with in few days
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Originally Posted by grimms
I'd say the best method would just be to verify the stats and the user on the site in question. But, common scene and good judgement should play a good role.
What I'm saying is that there is scripts that can be run that will trick a tracker into thinking that you've uploaded ALOT more than you actually did. These are old news, they were even around "back-in-the-day" when I used torrents. Even then though, the staff at the torrent sites seemed to be able to find the cheaters fairly easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by prasadahEnglish is not my native....so i didnot understand your reply completelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Broken
are you going to say is it difficult to cheat the ratios using cheat mods????
if so here is my answer........
it is difficult to cheat only in sct iptorrents and 2 more sites that too only for time being......i dont think trackers like sct iptorrents etc have the staffs are really smart.....there are more smart people among the users...i mean technically strong people...so they update cheat mods with in few days
i think this is my 10th or 20th reply for the same kind of postsQuote:
Originally Posted by Broken
but i am happy with your second half of the sentence.....ie. common scene and good judgement shud play a good role
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Originally Posted by prasadahi think this is my 10th or 20th reply for the same kind of postsQuote:
Originally Posted by Broken
but i am happy with your second half of the sentence.....ie. common scene and good judgement shud play a good role
Then I simply don't understand. You are implying that it is possible to get around verification that the user is the user with the posted stats by going to the other site? To the best of my understanding, this would require an out right hack of the site in question.
Humor me.
Put it in the simplest, most exact terms possible how....
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What I'm saying is that there is scripts that can be run that will trick a tracker into thinking that you've uploaded ALOT more than you actually did. These are old news, they were even around "back-in-the-day" when I used torrents. Even then though, the staff at the torrent sites seemed to be able to find the cheaters fairly easily.[/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
staff cannot find cheaters....I challenge .....and i wonder how do you think cheaters using the same old script from your "back-in-the-day"'s
users are more smarter than staffs according to my research....
I know how to rebuild Utorrent 1.7.6
how does it sounds???
In my simple words
I know how to rebuild utorrent 1.7.6
and there are people already using rebuilded AZuerus
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Originally Posted by prasadah
Then it sounds like you are talking about a hacked client.
I can guarantee that sending information to the tracker that you've uploaded 100GBs, while not creating a single other seed on the swarm will throw up some flags.
I hope some people go through the logs.
But, if not, and they get away with it. Well, more power to them.
Everyone should have an eye open for that kind of stuff and report it.
If you can do what you say then I hope you use or are using your knowledge out of torrenting and in the real world to make you some money.
I would definitely report that then. Especially if that guy was in my invite tree. It's getting harder to trust people man i tell ya.
actually myself not that much technical but i said i can rebuild utorrent cos pretending people like that ......i just gave an example of rebuilded client
but there are many more methods of cheat mods
and i am 100% sure Azureus is already hacked what you call and it is rebuilded.......and that programmer fix the bugs if any one catches that hacked client...i mean he will update........
and you said every one shud have an eye and report.....its not that much easy untill they are staff at trackers..........
here is my question
is there any chance to exist a country without criminals and all criminals will be punished,
well some criminals will be punished
What people should do is, they should have their participants load of every site they are proofing in tabs. Along with, speedtest.com'a and FST's tabs. Each proof reflects a different order of tabs. I think it'd be a pain in the ass for someone to photoshop each tab for each tracker they are proofing. Perhaps even put a time limit of how long they can post their proof from the time they make their snapshot. Unless, your a speed photoshopper, i think this process wouldn't be worth the time for a cheater.
eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by grimms
this man is doubting on me from that time....not even having a single rep(i dont know if he hiding the reps) do what ever you want i mean you can report
if you have invited
I know what you're saying, I know where to get "them" easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by prasadah
I'm saying I have to believe more people get caught than get away. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in ratios period, and... if you can, well... more power to you. But I believe it will end in a ban sooner or later.
Besides that what you're pointing out is a whole other thread.
Like I said, I wanted to put out a flaw I saw here. What happens on other sites I can't help.
i think this kind of post is already answered several timesQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanka113
photoshop is not rocketscience.....you can always keep cheated snapshots in the hard disk...you can edit there what ever you want....
again english is not my native....i hope my reply is related to your post...
again I am in confusion with your reply because english is not my native....Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokenI know what you're saying, I know where to get "them" easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by prasadah
I'm saying I have to believe more people get caught than get away. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in ratios period, and... if you can, well... more power to you. But I believe it will end in a ban sooner or later.
Besides that what you're pointing out is a whole other thread.
Like I said, I wanted to put out a flaw I saw here. What happens on other sites I can't help.
you are saying that cheaters will be banned sooner or later.....they find one more invite....cheaters are not machine they know how to and where to cheat....and also how to find invites.....and they will create multiple accounts
hey i did not understand this portion Besides that what you're pointing out is a whole other thread.
Like I said, I wanted to put out a flaw I saw here. What happens on other sites I can't help