ITS just to let you all know

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Lock this thread. pls.

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Thats up to the original poster or a mod, not you.

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And i was talking to the MODS.

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And what are your thoughts on the above posts mentioning that these posts are actually drawing more attention to the tracker, which is once again, against their very own rules. It creating hype and demand for it, which is why there are more posts every day.
Not trying to be an ass, but I would really like to know your view on this.

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What rules are you talking about? There is not one rule saying you cant post about the tracker in a public forum. Rules only stipulate that you cannot advertise invites or trade them.

Here are the rules for you to read...if you can find the rule you are talking about please let me know...but I do not see it.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3178e90243.jpg

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As I am not a member there, I have not gone through the rules. I just made a judgment base off the posts I've seen from (supposed) members. All said that the tracker wants to avoid unwanted attention, maybe its an unwritten rule, maybe the posters made it up, I don't know. But I do know if they want the attention lowered, the members just need to back off a bit and not create the kind of hype by continually posting about it.
Once again, if this isn't the case with them not wanting attention, I withdraw my statement.

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Noone is saying that, I recruit members here all the time, I have given out 15 invites I think through finding members here on FST.

Nearly all of the precious "high level" trackers call FST a sh*t whole and dont like it that much at all, however I disagree as there are good members here and some bad ones. You just have to filter through the lot


The reason why a majority of people are against trading as it is unnecessary and unfair. You are given an account or invite with the intention that you are giving it to a friend or keeping it for yourself (in the account situation), not as a means of barter.

You can get any invite by just participating actively here in the forums...in 1 month I was able to climb all the way to the top of that precious trader "ranking system" Yet I am still here contributing...hell I have given over 10 invites out today alone.

So don't say that iTS is a tracker claiming to be above the rest, or users think they are the best...because that is not the case. Noone is claiming it

iTS is just taking a more proactive approach to prevent invite bartering, as the staff and users feel it is improper. Since it is the staff and users site, they have every right to do with their invites as they please.

I dont understand why certain few members seem to feel the need to interfere with the workings of the tracker, as if they are not part of it, then they have no right to interfere in its business.

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Ok let's see..

I'm not against you, and much less against iTS. I respect you and all the members that you has there, i like your style "This is our tracker we deal with it like we want, we only accept people that we want".

But the point is that you are in all threads about iTS, saying that "You will not get it or you will get disabled at the same second that you get invited" This type of thinks are unnecessary, from my point of view. It's restryct! Full stop

Let the things happen, you will not get anything with that type of games.

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Noone is saying that, I recruit members here all the time, I have given out 15 invites I think through finding members here on FST.

Nearly all of the precious "high level" trackers call FST a sh*t whole and dont like it that much at all, however I disagree as there are good members here and some bad ones. You just have to filter through the lot


The reason why a majority of people are against trading as it is unnecessary and unfair. You are given an account or invite with the intention that you are giving it to a friend or keeping it for yourself (in the account situation), not as a means of barter.

You can get any invite by just participating actively here in the forums...in 1 month I was able to climb all the way to the top of that precious trader "ranking system" Yet I am still here contributing...hell I have given over 10 invites out today alone.

So don't say that iTS is a tracker claiming to be above the rest, or users think they are the best...because that is not the case. Noone is claiming it

iTS is just taking a more proactive approach to prevent invite bartering, as the staff and users feel it is improper. Since it is the staff and users site, they have every right to do with their invites as they please.

I dont understand why certain few members seem to feel the need to interfere with the workings of the tracker, as if they are not part of it, then they have no right to interfere in its business.

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Ok let's see..

I'm not against you, and much less against iTS. I respect you and all the members that you has there, i like your style "This is our tracker we deal with it like we want, we only accept people that we want".

But the point is that you are in all threads about iTS, saying that "You will not get it or you will get disabled at the same second that you get invited" This type of thinks are unnecessary, from my point of view. It's restryct! Full stop

Let the things happen, you will not get anything with that type of games.

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Incorrect, the tactics that users have used have worked on decreasing the number of requests. There were maybe 10 requests last week for it...compared to like 30 at the beginning of January when users didn't actively slam threads with warnings.

The only reason that the request threads sprout up again is because the level went up to 5...so now everyone wants it just for its level.


If you think that by making it aware to the average user that trading will not get you into a tracker, is a bad way of getting your point across...then show me a better way that people will actually acknowledge and use.

Why do you think people request iTS or ScL or FSC or FTN...it is because they dont know about it and just hear lame rumors.

To be honest, in my opinion, the best 0day tracker, hands down, is SCC. Hell I only upload to iTS, ScL, FSC and FTN...I rarely download from any of those sites as I mainly use specialty trackers for what I want (hdbits for HD, swedvdr for dvd, bcg for games, tvt for complete series)

ScL is a 0day tracker, iTS is a scene only tracker as is FTN, FSC is a request based tracker that does also have 0day.

Nearly all trackers have the same content, people just want it for an epenis and to brag.

People just want trackers because they have, in their mind, this image that a high level tracker is the most amazing thing...yet when you get there, if you are only wanting to download stuff the fastest or have the fastest pretimes. The high level trackers....get smoked every day by lower level trackers...

Peace and Love and Unity to everybody. :smilie4:

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Ok let's see..

I'm not against you, and much less against iTS. I respect you and all the members that you has there, i like your style "This is our tracker we deal with it like we want, we only accept people that we want".

But the point is that you are in all threads about iTS, saying that "You will not get it or you will get disabled at the same second that you get invited" This type of thinks are unnecessary, from my point of view. It's restryct! Full stop

Let the things happen, you will not get anything with that type of games.

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Incorrect, the tactics that users have used have worked on decreasing the number of requests. There were maybe 10 requests last week for it...compared to like 30 at the beginning of January when users didn't actively slam threads with warnings.

The only reason that the request threads sprout up again is because the level went up to 5...so now everyone wants it just for its level.


If you think that by making it aware to the average user that trading will not get you into a tracker, is a bad way of getting your point across...then show me a better way that people will actually acknowledge and use.

Why do you think people request iTS or ScL or FSC or FTN...it is because they dont know about it and just hear lame rumors.

To be honest, in my opinion, the best 0day tracker, hands down, is SCC.

ScL is a 0day tracker, iTS is a scene only tracker as is FTN, FSC is a request based tracker that does also have 0day.

Nearly all trackers have the same content, people just want it for an epenis and to brag.

People just want trackers because they have, in their mind, this image that a high level tracker is the most amazing thing...yet when you get there, if you are only wanting to download stuff the fastest or have the fastest pretimes. The high level trackers....get smoked every day by lower level trackers...

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Yeah that's a fact, a normal fact nowadays. Let's see what will happen here:

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...llector-274790

This discussion is over for me, good luck with your tracker.

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Peace and Love and Unity to everybody. :smilie4:

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/me hugs iTS

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Ok let's see..

I'm not against you, and much less against iTS. I respect you and all the members that you has there, i like your style "This is our tracker we deal with it like we want, we only accept people that we want".

But the point is that you are in all threads about iTS, saying that "You will not get it or you will get disabled at the same second that you get invited" This type of thinks are unnecessary, from my point of view. It's restryct! Full stop

Let the things happen, you will not get anything with that type of games.

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Incorrect, the tactics that users have used have worked on decreasing the number of requests. There were maybe 10 requests last week for it...compared to like 30 at the beginning of January when users didn't actively slam threads with warnings.

The only reason that the request threads sprout up again is because the level went up to 5...so now everyone wants it just for its level.


If you think that by making it aware to the average user that trading will not get you into a tracker, is a bad way of getting your point across...then show me a better way that people will actually acknowledge and use.

Why do you think people request iTS or ScL or FSC or FTN...it is because they dont know about it and just hear lame rumors.

To be honest, in my opinion, the best 0day tracker, hands down, is SCC. Hell I only upload to iTS, ScL, FSC and FTN...I rarely download from any of those sites as I mainly use specialty trackers for what I want (hdbits for HD, swedvdr for dvd, bcg for games, tvt for complete series)

ScL is a 0day tracker, iTS is a scene only tracker as is FTN, FSC is a request based tracker that does also have 0day.

Nearly all trackers have the same content, people just want it for an epenis and to brag.

People just want trackers because they have, in their mind, this image that a high level tracker is the most amazing thing...yet when you get there, if you are only wanting to download stuff the fastest or have the fastest pretimes. The high level trackers....get smoked every day by lower level trackers...

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You are assuming that the increase in posts was only from the level increase. This probably started it, but I stand by the fact that without any replies, there would have been far less requests once they did start to come. If people see request threads constantly getting bumped to the top of the forum, they see it as a good sign lots of people will see their request, so they post one too. If the thread got 0 replies, people would be less likely to post one, since there is no interest.

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Peace and Love and Unity to everybody. :smilie4:

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You are assuming that the increase in posts was only from the level increase. This probably started it, but I stand by the fact that without any replies, there would have been far less requests once they did start to come. If people see request threads constantly getting bumped to the top of the forum, they see it as a good sign lots of people will see their request, so they post one too. If the thread got 0 replies, people would be less likely to post one, since there is no interest.

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I think i have to agree with a little of both yes people want to because it's up a level also people want it because it's new and don't have it. you make quite a valid point if people noticed it's ignored and never often replyed to then they will eventually go away and others will follow.

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You are assuming that the increase in posts was only from the level increase. This probably started it, but I stand by the fact that without any replies, there would have been far less requests once they did start to come. If people see request threads constantly getting bumped to the top of the forum, they see it as a good sign lots of people will see their request, so they post one too. If the thread got 0 replies, people would be less likely to post one, since there is no interest.

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I think i have to agree with a little of both yes people want to because it's up a level also people want it because it's new and don't have it. you make quite a valid point if people noticed it's ignored and never often replyed to then they will eventually go away and others will follow.

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plus the fact that u don't see iTS trade/ request in other forum that often

P.S. has this thread served it's purpose yet?

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I think i have to agree with a little of both yes people want to because it's up a level also people want it because it's new and don't have it. you make quite a valid point if people noticed it's ignored and never often replyed to then they will eventually go away and others will follow.

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plus the fact that u don't see iTS trade/ request in other forum that often

P.S. has this thread served it's purpose yet?

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Not even close, there has not been nearly enough flaming and fighting yet. Give it some time will ya? :D

Ok so the battle is won but clearly people are pissed off so there must be an alternative solution to what is currently happening if there is not and somebody remains pissed off someone will have to swallow their pride for there to be peace and that could be either party.

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Ok so the battle is won but clearly people are pissed off so there must be an alternative solution to what is currently happening if there is not and somebody remains pissed off someone will have to swallow their pride and that could be either party for there to be peace.

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Punctuation needed.

Could you then please teach me ?

A mod with a pair of balls , Detale my respect for you grows and grows .....

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Ok so the battle is won but clearly people are pissed off so there must be an alternative solution to what is currently happening if there is not and somebody remains pissed off someone will have to swallow their pride and that could be either party for there to be peace.

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Punctuation needed.

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...and appears the first flame post :whistling

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A mod with a pair of balls , Detale my respect for you grows and grows .....

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Well said!

I think if people who truly want iTS see people's requests being declined they wont make one as they know they will not get in that way. Search my post history, I never have requested iTS but somehow I got invited.

So for all you members out there who really want iTS to be part of our community, just be helpful, nice, and giving, and like everyone always hears "They will find you".

Jon

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That's not flame his pointing out my mistakes if any im not insulted by knowledge and im grateful for the help i asume hes trying to help me that is why i asked him to teach me in his spare time

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...and appears the first flame post :whistling

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That's not flame his pointing out my mistakes if any im not insulted by knowledge and im grateful for the help i asume hes trying to help me that is why i asked him to teach me in his spare time

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quit being nice

i just wanted people to fight, fight goddamnit, fight :cry: !

This is the reason i didnt become a CR for so long, and we dont even have Invites atm.

Community Reps Layout

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Community Reps
Those that are BT staff and members at FST may request their own rank so it’s clear who they are on the site. Those with the rank are required to have titles with the site their representing and their staff position. After all, a “Rep” is “representing” their site, so displaying your tracker in your Custom User Title below your name is appropriate. “Reps” are welcome to use asterisks if they choose. The usergroup is titled “Community Reps” with its own rank image.

Filters
“Community Reps” at private sites may request their URL to be filtered. They may also request images that are an issue to be removed, such as those that disclose a URL or other privileged information. FST members that bypass filters with spaces or similar are warned and could be locked or banned from the site.

Account Trading
“Community Reps” that are active on FST and have issue with account trades are asked to post politely in threads that are an issue. Then post a report regarding it. The thread will be trashed or edited and the member will be contacted. We do ask “Community Reps” are active on the site so it’s a joint effort educating members regarding their rules.

“Community Reps” are required to be civil as slamming members simply doesn’t work. They are welcome to PM members nicely regarding their rules. Most will notice the “Community Reps” rank and step in line. We want to work together to sort these issues. There is a list of sites represented by active “Community Reps” on FST against account trading posted in a sticky in the Invites section.

Invite Trading
The Staff at FST does not believe invite trading is an issue. We’ve found most BT staff we’ve spoken with agree on this. Sites that have issue mostly don’t have them or keep them limited. It’s strange to have invites and then chase and ban those trading them. Many sites give invites to members as a reward for participation, and its clear some members want them to trade and get into other sites.

We’re aware some sites might not agree on this policy, though it’s the policy we’ve chose to take. If you’re here to ban invite traders, don’t ask for “Community Rep” rank on the site. Its better you choose to be a rouge element, although if this is road you choose you will be dealt with as such.

Cheaters
“Community Reps” are able to inform FST Staff regarding cheaters in the Report Section on the site. This is for heavy offenders and proof should be supplied. FST Staff will then review it. Then will choose what to note the members account or lock them from the Invites section.

Scammers
Some members purpose on FST is to scam others. Most often we deal with these on our own banning them from the site. For those that are heavy offenders we may give “Community Reps” details regarding those members. We ask they review it and choose what to do with it.

Summary
We believe this approach with “Community Reps” will bring the community closer together. If you agree to the above you may contact FST Staff to request Community Staff rank...

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Just trying to point out, that if a staff member from a site is a CR on here, they can not ban members from here trading invites.

I had weeks contemplating this rule with my staff.

true stuff stoi

but as said, most com. rep don't read com. rep faq but expect us to read faq of their site

as for iTS com. rep, there are couple more iTS staffer here (other than com. rep) so i guess they (non-com. rep staffer) can ban traders :P

P.S. has any staffer been removed from com. rep position because he banned a trader from FST?

Hmmm.... Spam is everywere...

actually i asked Detale this when i got offered the job, and no they cannot(or they are not supposed to anyway).

I am not trying to make any enemies here with other trackers, far from it, but i do think if you expect your members to follow your rules on your tracker, that if you do accept a CR position you should follow the rules of FST.

Maybe im in a minority though on this lol

Everyone has choices to make. Those choices may result in severe consequences or happiness.

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actually i asked Detale this when i got offered the job, and no they cannot(or they are not supposed to anyway).

I am not trying to make any enemies here with other trackers, far from it, but i do think if you expect your members to follow your rules on your tracker, that if you do accept a CR position you should follow the rules of FST.

Maybe im in a minority though on this lol

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I would say minority in caring about it.

As I have mentioned before, staff take the CR position in order to better serve the community. FST just throws that in inorder to make users think that they wont be busted for trading.

I know that most sysops ARE strongly against invite trading, however they thought that having a community rep here for general help to members was important.

This lame rule is like the fine print on a contract...

"By becoming a community rep, youll be an asset here and help users with problems with your tracker.*"









*By accepting this job, we now own your soul, your mom's sexy mail order outfits, and your sisters virginity




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actually i asked Detale this when i got offered the job, and no they cannot(or they are not supposed to anyway).

I am not trying to make any enemies here with other trackers, far from it, but i do think if you expect your members to follow your rules on your tracker, that if you do accept a CR position you should follow the rules of FST.

Maybe im in a minority though on this lol

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I would say minority in caring about it.

As I have mentioned before, staff take the CR position in order to better serve the community. FST just throws that in inorder to make users think that they wont be busted for trading.

I know that the Sysop at iTS is against invite trading, however they thought that having a community rep here for general help to members was important.

This lame rule is like the fine print on a contract...

"By becoming a community rep, youll be an asset here and help users with problems with your tracker.*"









*By accepting this job, we now own your soul, your mom's sexy mail order outfits, and your sisters virginity




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That's a contract! :D

sorry but i have to disagree.

if a user of your tracker gets banned for low ratio, most staff will turn around and say "you should have read the Rules/FAQ"

well to me the same applies here.

if you cant follow the rules, then dont become a CR, its pretty bloody simple in my book.

Agree with U Stoi....

Fatcat, maybe U should let a community rep take over here as I don't ur doin a very good job only creating more tention... no offense

finaly! i am relly happy to see thread like that we all know already every tracker dose not support traders so no need to say in every single thread like its dose not allowed traders ( as when u saying this will change anything ?) any way i understand also that any tracker mod trying to protect his tracker but i hope u do it in more usefull way not just spam and let me say this agien every single tracker have traders inside so when u say (iTS) dose not have any traders then its just ur wish and i respact it though . but fst allowed tradeing invites and as we all members of fst we have to respact that and not to full every tradeing its thread with spots dose not make any sence ( if not even funny )

Completly agree with the necessity to remind members that invite trading is in no way forbidden in FST.

My opinion is that if a community rep doesn't agree with the invite trading clause, he should refused this title, like stoi did

They would still appear as staff in the comm rep sticky anyway so members would be able to reach identify them if help needed. However, account trading would then be allowed for this site, but it's a choice to make.

I think this is easier to control invite trading by stopping handing out invites at large and by changing the invite system to an invite application form like E or F*** do.

With such a system, a lot of scum can be filtered and i'm pretty less and less invite request (trading or free) would appear on this board, people getting to understand the requierements to join your site is hard

my two cents ;)

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sorry but i have to disagree.

if a user of your tracker gets banned for low ratio, most staff will turn around and say "you should have read the Rules/FAQ"

well to me the same applies here.

if you cant follow the rules, then dont become a CR, its pretty bloody simple in my book.

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You've got it spot on mate...if that's part of why you're not a com-rep than a lot of respect goes out to you.

I hate trading...invites & accounts...however it's pretty bloody rich to say well people have to respect the site rules or get banned but it's ok for comm reps not to respect the rules of FST.

There are plenty of staffers here who aren't com reps and I hope they ban every trader on this board. But all the comm reps I'm sure are well aware of FST's stance on this issue, no matter how much they or I disagree with it thems just the facts of life.

But I will say I think one of the main points is that ITs has fuck all invites so the chances of people trading for one are very slim. Therefore the best bet is to report it to staff let them handle it and be done with it. Spamming the threads just intensifies the hype. And a mod can correct me if I'm wrong but I was told when I was invited ages ago that the idea was not to draw attention to this tracker.

[OFF TOPIC]Fatcat mate why don't you leach? If you truly love ITs I'm telling you right now that's what it needs, so...[/OFF TOPIC]

well i am a CR i just havnt got my stars yet (its in the pipeline though seemingly, just waiting for Reality to do them.)

But i am a fully fledged CR.

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well i am a CR i just havnt got my stars yet (its in the pipeline though seemingly, just waiting for Reality to do them.)

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fair enough...regardless of your status you made a good point.

well even KFlint thought i wasnt, so thought i had better out the record straight lol

but i did agree with that rule after a lot of soul searching and questions back and forth between me and Detale.

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well even KFlint thought i wasnt, so thought i had better out the record straight lol

but i did agree with that rule after a lot of soul searching and questions back and forth between me and Detale.

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i wondered why BCG account trading wasn't allowed here if without a comm rep, now everything is clear to me hehehe

But where the heck are your comm reps stars then? :unsure:

Somebody sort it out and give the man his stars. :smilie4:


/goes to start thread about BCG Invites.... :eyebrows:

If it was up to me, nobody at all would post in iTS threads and they'd just be quietly laughed at.

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Completly agree with the necessity to remind members that invite trading is in no way forbidden in FST.

My opinion is that if a community rep doesn't agree with the invite trading clause, he should refused this title, like stoi did

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So are you saying if iTS removes its community rep, youll ban invite trading of iTS?


Didnt think so. But if so, Im sure about 20 trackers will remove their reps right away!:lol:


So would a tracker rather have:

a community rep to help its users who need help here and "FST allows trading of your invites"

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not have a community rep here to help users and "FST still allows trading of your invites"



To me it doesnt matter, either way FST is going to allow invites to be traded....So if anything com. reps are showing they really care to help the users here at FST

K we dont have any invites, so start as many threads as you like, nothing will happen :)

and fatcat you have the wrong end of the stick.

If a site has a CR they cannot ban anyone for trading an invite from their tracker on FST (or thats the rule)

If you have not got a CR on here, then you can ban a member from your site that trades invites on here.

Pretty simple realy.