Should Acct trades be allowed here?

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Originally Posted by Tiantian

it's unfortunate that staffers are logging personal details of members without telling us?

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:lol: Are you joking. :unsure:
Why would they tell you. :slap:

Voted NO.

it would be a nice move of fst, if acc trades wouldnt be allowed anymore. it was expressed before by others much more eloquent than me ;)
i know there are some guys who think there is no other way than trading. and if a newbie sees so many acc trades going on, he will think its ok bc everybody is doing it. and think about all the spam that will be gone :P

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Originally Posted by Tiantian

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Originally Posted by Brandon

Accounts are personal. They were given to you by a friend, or someone that trusted you and wanted to share with YOU.. You do not own the account, which is why you can be disabled at any time for any reason.. Therefore technically you do not have the right to give that account away for any reason.

Should it be allowed? No. Not respectfully at least unless FST wants a lot of enemies who have a lot of influence. Should you FST users want FST to allow it? I would say no.. Why? It creates a hostile environment, and with the recent changes in certain deals made between FST and other staff, there's already an underground staff link that's now effectively trading your (yes, you users) info, including your IP's, your emails, etc. In the long run, this is a bad thing because pretty soon even invite traders will be easily caught and then you also will be pissed off when a trade goes bad and you get nothing out of it.

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i concur that, but it's unfortunate that staffers are logging personal details of members without telling us?

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i think you have not understood what he said BT staff would never log your info as such but if you are trading accounts when you get cault on 1 site we share this info with other sites and have your accounts banned every where we can
why ?
well thats easy to explain when you trade an account you are breaking the agreement you made with the torrent sites you are on so why should we not get you banned every where you have no respect for the sites anyway they are just cards to you to be traded away for better ones

account trading leads to nothing but bad news for the user and the sites involed and should be stopped every where

edit:this is not meant to be directed at you Tiantian

Just to remind you how the last poll went:

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...ood-bad-219087

So maybe now something will be done.

And this poll should have been closed to new members of 2008, since most that will see this poll would have only signed up for the sole purpose of account trading, that would have give this forum a better balance of what members who are here for longer really weant from this forum.

Positive votes should be counted as half, since most traders have double FST accounts (to say the least) and will vote more than once. :P

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Originally Posted by znik

Positive votes should be counted as half, since most traders have double FST accounts (to say the least) and will vote more than once. :P

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I'm a trader and i don't have double accs :dry:

Voted NO obviousement. And that includes account giveaways as well. Many have already given the same reasons I would, so i'm not going to repeat.

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Originally Posted by The Gladiator

I'm a trader and i don't have double accs :dry:

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I find it hard to believe you. :dabs:

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Originally Posted by benchez

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Originally Posted by The Gladiator

I'm a trader and i don't have double accs :dry:

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I find it hard to believe you. :dabs:

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It's ok, I voted no 3 times to balance things out. :bleh:

i dont think though theres any problem
yep

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Originally Posted by benchez

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Originally Posted by The Gladiator

I'm a trader and i don't have double accs :dry:

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I find it hard to believe you. :dabs:

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:O Can i ask you why?

Voted No... but for acc giveaway i don't know if this should be allowed in certain cases...

I voted no 6 times :P

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Originally Posted by $SnoopDo2G$

Voted No... but for acc giveaway i don't know if this should be allowed in certain cases...

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The "no" should be for the both cases, trading and giveaways.

Voted "no" only because I´ve already collected them all.

i know this poll was created to find out what the users of FST want. there will always be plenty of users voting yes. but the question remains as to who is more important? the tracker staff, who will only be hurt if such a decision is made? or the newcomers here who want to trade accounts? if FST has to continue being a great forum, it is extremely important to get the support of the tracker staff. hence, i am surprised that such a question was even raised in the first place. anyone who has been around torrents long enough and has any love for the communities they are part of will try and do everything they can to stop account trading

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Originally Posted by BamZow

Voted "no" only because I´ve already collected them all.

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:lol: That's a great reason definitely :)

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Originally Posted by The Gladiator

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Originally Posted by $SnoopDo2G$

Voted No... but for acc giveaway i don't know if this should be allowed in certain cases...

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The "no" should be for the both cases, trading and giveaways.

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yeah i said no for both but you know exceptions can be made in certain particular rare cases like it happend to me once, someone couldn't give me an invite to a tracker then the guy gave me his acc... because he wasn't using much and now that tracker isn't even allowing invites or such...
so in a way it's a great thing and no one cheated or whatsoever...:happy:
You got my point ?

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Originally Posted by The Gladiator

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Originally Posted by benchez

I find it hard to believe you. :dabs:

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:O Can i ask you why?

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Yep, I don't trust you. :smilie4:

membership on a tracker is a privilege. most trackers need you to fulfill certain requirements until you get invites. having invites simply means that you have done enough to gain the power to let other people into the tracker. its a kind of appreciation or recognition given to you that you are a good user. anyone can giveaway or trade an account once they get in! you simply dont have the right to let someone else use that tracker.
lets say you had a party and sent out invitations to all the friends who you wanted to come. but one of them couldnt make it, so he gave the invite to a bum on the street. how would you feel? thats what you do when you trade/giveaway accounts
but if you had a very good friend who wanted to get someone along, he would ask you for permission and you would probably say yes. thats exactly what happens when trackers allot invites for you.

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Originally Posted by benchez

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Originally Posted by The Gladiator

:O Can i ask you why?

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Yep, I don't trust you. :smilie4:

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:lol: No problem, you don't need to trust me, we can use a middleman :P

@$SnoopDo2g$

I got it :)

oops.. double post :P

NO deffinetly Stopped tradeing :)

Yes

i dont think they should be, acct giveaways or trades are insanely disrespectful to a tracker and its staff.

It would be interesting to see the breakdown of those who have been here for longer than 3 months.

The only ones I see saying yes are those who joined within the last 3 months.

In fact i am very much against account trading, but i voted yes, it should be allowed.

And why is this, u ask? because the fact is that people that really want to trade an account will do it, no matter if it is here or at another place, and the probability of finding more "dangerous" users to a tracker is probably higher than here, that many people know each other, and a lot of staff roams at the invites section.

All in all, continuing to allow trading accounts here will minimize the risk of unwanted users joining a tracker, which is far higher at some other places. Think of it as an instrument for tracker's staff.
Ok, some won't get caught, but the ones that escape probably aren't as much of an issue if they come from a place where everyone knows everyone and that if u mess up after a trade, your ass is fried.

There will always be account trading, whether be it here or somewhere else.

just my 2 cents

my vote: NO

yea its very clear while reading through this that the huge majority of members who have stuck around here even after they have everything they want and need are saying no. 3 months from now see how many people who said yes are still active here compared to the people who said no, just from the looks of it and past experience the people voting yes will probably be gone within a few weeks/months anyways. whatever though, i have a hard time believing that FST will ever say acct trading isnt allowed.

I Don't Give A Fuck But I Think That There Shouldn't Be A Rule Against Account Trades After All Its Trader Right To Trade What They Want And Its Trackers Staffers To Disable Them I Think That This Is Fair Enough

Yes. Period.

Quote from Skizo:
We don't owe you anything.

We don't owe any tracker anything.

Our main focus is FST, nothing else. That focus includes helping our members and being an informative resource for file sharing information all-around. The CR rank was all give on our part and required absolutely nothing from you or any other tracker staff member. You should be happy that it lasted as long as it did as you all got what you wanted and didn't have to do anything to get it.

Basically he is saying that FST has no business and does not care what tracker rules are, that nothing is required and FST is the main focus. If this is true, this poll should not even be here.

Even thinking about not allowing trading is catering to others, especially tracker admins.

Make up your own damn minds first, then maybe ask users via polls.

EDIT: predictably, a vast majority of those against trading, here and in the forums are those who already have the trackers they want, and some possibly who have ditched their old accounts that they traded with and have become "anti" or "non-trader"... because they have nothing to trade for.

~~~Non Trader~~~ ^^ :lol:

Cabalo so basically what you are telling us is that since it is allowed for example on ebay to trade accounts for money and it is doomed to happen, why not even let it happen here as well, in a cozy enviroment.
Right? :O

Yes

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Originally Posted by $SnoopDo2G$

~~~Non Trader~~~ ^^ :lol:

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me? If so, youre sadly mistaken.

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Originally Posted by puckface

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Originally Posted by $SnoopDo2G$

~~~Non Trader~~~ ^^ :lol:

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me? If so, youre sadly mistaken.

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looool

read " GoLDeN " usertitle... :shifty:
and i was refering to his post...:whistling
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-sho...45/postcount70

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Originally Posted by puckface

Yes. Period.

Quote from Skizo:
We don't owe you anything.

We don't owe any tracker anything.

Our main focus is FST, nothing else. That focus includes helping our members and being an informative resource for file sharing information all-around. The CR rank was all give on our part and required absolutely nothing from you or any other tracker staff member. You should be happy that it lasted as long as it did as you all got what you wanted and didn't have to do anything to get it.

Basically he is saying that FST has no business and does not care what tracker rules are, that nothing is required and FST is the main focus. If this is true, this poll should not even be here.

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I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.

Making a point that we owe them nothing and saying we don't care at all about their rules are two completely different ideals.

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Originally Posted by puckface

EDIT: predictably, a vast majority of those against trading, here and in the forums are those who already have the trackers they want, and some possibly who have ditched their old accounts that they traded with and have become "anti" or "non-trader"... because they have nothing to trade for.

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I think that's very ignorant and subjective.

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Skizo

Making a point that we owe them nothing and saying we don't care at all about their rules are two completely different ideals.

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:cool: eXactly !