And to think all the nay sayers would probably be in newsgroups if they had the $$.Face it, you have to pay for a reason, its so much better, content and speed, just leech like hell withought ratio and max your connection.
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And to think all the nay sayers would probably be in newsgroups if they had the $$.Face it, you have to pay for a reason, its so much better, content and speed, just leech like hell withought ratio and max your connection.
pay = fail
asskissing = fail
I prefer Usenet overall and only use BT for files I can't get there.
For me it's faster, more comprehensive and more secure.
My isp provides access, but not to all groups. Enough to fill my needs though.
I rarely if ever cannot get what I want using both systems. So for me Usenet is better but I wouldn't want to be without private trackers.
I never, ever use public trackers.
I use Bt because it's free. No shame in that. I already have to pay enough to my ISP, to go waisting some more money to do something I can also do for free with BT. OK ... there's the ratio thingie but that's just peanuts IMHO.
A community is nice but I believe that there are a lot more communities than just the BT-community.
And about the pré-speed ... well ... that is obviously not a very intelligent discussion. If something is available 5 minutes earlier on Bt than on usenet, who are we to complain about that. If you really wanna be the fastest than try to get into one of the few topsitez.
Only than you can truly say you were the fastest to get something (but at what cost would that be, when you know what standards you have to meet to get in there).
Torrent ftw, will never pay for downloadin', yeah perhaps paying to keep some communities live is better
I think usenet is good for current releases it seems like they lack in things released a while back.
well i will never knock newsgroups because i never used them and i do hear good things about them but i have to choose bt because i don't have to pay and the communities r great.
no disrespect, but do you even know about how the retention period works??:ermm:Quote:
Originally Posted by boxmanuser
Usenet retention is very good compared to 0day torrent sites, but specialized sites like bitmetv or oink (rip) are even better.
And torrent sites give you more information about the files. Usually you get all important information directly from the uploader. You know video resolution, bitrate, languages, subtitles and so on after one simple click. Good uploaders also add screenshots and compare their release to similar ones.
If you use newzbin or other indexing sites you depend on different people to index everything. Some of this people are really good, but most are not. They forget to use important tags like "1080p" and some languages, they forget to index some episodes of a show or tag them in a different way, so you don't find them. Sometimes they miss the nfo files, sometimes they don't add the pars. In the end you have to use RAW view and search for nfo files on your own. Then you have to compare all those nfo files and decide which one might be the best.
If you don't care about quality this is not much of a problem, but for movie/tv/music collectors and perfectionists usenet is much more work than seeding back some torrents. My way of using usenet is to look in torrent sites for the files I want and then do a usenet RAW search for that release. Either I can download it from usenet or I have to use one of my buffers in bittorrent. Anyway I try to seed the file on bittorrent to increase my buffer.
For some of my favorite shows I use RSS to autostart the torrents and get a good ratio without having to bother with usenet at all.
Currently, I think a high level private tracker is better than newsgroups.
1) BT and Usenet are giving equal access to new stuff
2) BT is free
3) BT's drawback (ratios) are not that big of a draw back (disregarding 1080i rips, etc.)
But you also have to consider that you need
1) Access to private tracker with what you want
2) Will have to seed back
3) Higher risk of being caught in a swarm
4) The future is all about bigger stuff once more things come out on DVD/BlueRay sets (games, movies, pr0n) so getting those on Newsgroups is better in terms of ratio, but may be worse in terms of quotas
I'm content on just using torrents. Plus if it's something hot, I'll just hop on IRC and grab it there. Maybe wait in a small line all queued up, but no big deal.
Plus as everyone says, you probably have a small quota of ISP based free newsgroup access.
I prefer Torrents but also I use Newsgroups! Can`t get all releases in 0Day trackers!!!
wanna know why i prefer torrents? because i don't have to pay for it. the end.
Newsgroups have >= 90% of what is released on private trackers. If its not there, which is rare, it can be requested, and normally appears within a day.
I like torrents over newsgroups just because its free, but that doesn't mean that torrents have better content. I think they are pretty even content wise.
Just cancelled my newsgroup subscription and purchased a seedbox. There is alot more obscure docco's and what not floating around on torrentsites.
Newsgroups are a bit easier on the $ I rekon, but theres no forums - like this one and a few others.
Torrents are simply more rewarding IMHO.
Usenet is ok, but i really like bittorrents newsgroups sucks because u gotta pay for it monthy and i don't have that kind of money. <__<
Usenet, all the way. I use both methods. But to me, Usenet is the better way to illegally obtain your files. Hands down. It's faster and it's safer. More content too.
And way more efficient in terms of bandwidth.
Oh my god, you could not be more wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tokeman
And all along i've been thinking people go to trackers to download stuff. I can't believe I was so wrong (sarcasm). Who cares if usenet don't have a good community, that's what this forum is for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tranquill
Prefer
1.FTP, then
2.Usenet, then
3.Private Trackers [high level only]
It's not even about that for most torrenters these days. Alot of them like to rent a box just so they can jump on all the newly uploaded shit, whether they want it or not, just to increase their buffer for bragging rights. Or they jump from site to site trying to get in the latest, most rare, or "highest level" tracker. Which they all have the same content as a "lower level" tracker. It's not even about the content or community(which is such a lame excuse for wanting a tracker anyways) for a lot of them. For most it's all about the e-penis, which is pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by torrentguy
Luckily with Usenet you don't have to deal with any of that shit. You grab your file and you're done.
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkin'It's not even about that for most torrenters these days. Alot of them like to rent a box just so they can jump on all the newly uploaded shit, whether they want it or not, just to increase their buffer for bragging rights. Or they jump from site to site trying to get in the latest, most rare, or "highest level" tracker. Which they all have the same content as a "lower level" tracker. It's not even about the content or community(which is such a lame excuse for wanting a tracker anyways) for a lot of them. For most it's all about the e-penis, which is pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by torrentguy
Luckily with Usenet you don't have to deal with any of that shit. You grab your file and you're done.
High level trackers
On the torrent trackers have paks movies (ScT, SCC, TL, iTS etc.) , the news does not.
Private Torrent Trackes, in my opinion, are simply better: free; files pre-tested by a responsible member; speed and availability usually par with newsgroups/usenet... Ok, worrying about your ratio is a pain sometimes, but it's better than paying money...
I prefer high level trackers of course!
that is what i feel :)Quote:
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I prefer Torrents, Usenet is no fun is just simply downloading. With a high level torrent site, a great community is also present. Also I seem to get the same speeds in torrents as Usenet.
Totally.
Stick to torrents.
All have merits but with seed boxes maxing out connections your a ratio can take a hammering that you can never get back on HLT's. In my mind I use BT for stuff I cannot find on NG's but I use p2p as a last resort. I am not having a go at p2p just an ordinary guy I cannot afford a box and a NSP. So I just download what I reallly need off p2p and then hopefully I can seed back.
I prefer usenet as it takes the headache out of getting ratio 1:1 or better. Simple really that is the only reason I prefer usenet.
As for communties what is wrong with FST and its very good NZB section.:naughty:
I have to agree on this point though i prefer bt, maybe i will change my mind later.Quote:
Originally Posted by lightshow
about the discussion which is better, my vote goes to newsgroups ( sounds bit strange right, no i dont think so)
ha ha ....:huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by yakz091I have to agree on this point though i prefer bt, maybe i will change my mind later.Quote:
Originally Posted by lightshow
about the discussion which is better, my vote goes to newsgroups ( sounds bit strange right, no i dont think so)
get a tunnel ...if u have any problem with the ISP :whistling
point of piracy--->you don't have to pay for anything except your monthly internet bill.
Any pay-for service defies that. Anybody who uses those services are not true pirates :P
I prefer torrent sites. Theyre free and have their own community.
high level tracker
why cause it free
and you can meet alot of
new people every day :)
private trackers. free and fast.
What a Catch-22, walking contradiction that babble is.Quote:
Originally Posted by lukee
If you want to be a true pirate go rape the high seas and pillage and plunder anything in your path (Blockbuster maybe?)... but be aware that even with that there is out of pocket expense. LOL!
Look the truth of the matter is Usenet is superior and will be for the foreseeable future.
*No Ratio to worry about
*No worry's about gaining an invite into the hottest shit this side of the Big D just to nab that one flick you are after.
*No worrying about keeping up with the multiple sites you have in your bookmarks so you are not booted for inactivity.
*No worrying about IPfilters (nuff said)
*As far as the community argument goes, have any of you that think you have the Ace of Spades ever even checked the many discussions groups? I mean there are thousands on every topic you can think of.
*On most high level trackers you need a seedbox which is much more costly per-month than a Usenet subscription, if you say it is not more costly per-month my guess is that you are sharing your box with more than a few people. Either way kinda defeats your whole "it is free no need to pay for anything but my ISP argument" .
My 2 Cents
Some people just need a community to rub their "e-penis" for them to make it all worth it to them.
Myself, I can live without any drama or ass kissing.
I get my stuff first, FAST, securely - and most importantly, I have piece of mind in knowing I am totally safe no matter what I do. If I have to shell out a few bucks, so be it. I'd rather give out a few bucks than kiss ass and have to worry about watching my ass so that I don't get sued.
It's hard to pin point which network get pre faster depends on the uploader.
Usenet/Torrents for me.
I agree with uQuote:
Originally Posted by MiniMalisticI agree with u :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tranquill