Aom Hacked?

they probably did get hacked

Hi Saulin,

Im very happy that I have been able to convince you. To be honest.. when the 500 members came in, I never understood where they came from. They all signed up within a few hours. After searching I found out that the link was posted on FST so that is why I responded to the frustrated members and try to explain what happened.

I think you now understand what I have been trying to tell you guys. We never ever have open signups unless something was wrong.

I think you just gave a GREAT hint. I will contact 1 of the staff members to ask to remove it. I never thought about that before so thank you for that!
I hope they will cooperate and that people will start to forget about AOM and within a few months if somebody talkes about AOM, everybody will ask "who or what is AOM? :) We prefer to stay invisible.

Thanks again for understanding.

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Originally Posted by saulin

Well is nice to hear from someone that runs the tracker I assume?

Anyways that's a nice explanation. I wasn't aware that you came here and asked for anyone that is a magician and is interested in joining to contact you. But I was referring to 2 or 3 times that the site had opened signups and then all accounts were deleted. That seemed like just a way to gain attention.

And I was right. So about 1% actually felt some ineterest in joining after signing up. Trackers like AOM are not for everyone and is obvious that most people interested in joining well just want to trade the account later. Is the same for all rare trackers. As for trying to keep it a secret place. Maybe requesting to take the tracker off the rarity list would be a good start. That's what the admin at Tophos did and you don't see so much talk about this tracker or people wanting to trade for it.

See when people here. AOM is open for signups, they rush to get an account. Once the accounts get deleted, they start new trading posts and they want it for is rarity value not because they need it or want to be a part of it.

I think the best way to keep a tracker private is by no advertising obviously and banning members who invite bad users to cut the tree from the root. Well I hope some people now realize that kind of tracker this is and that is not meant for just anyone. I never liked it because I'm not into magic and I signed up when it had opened signups a long time ago. Before it even was in this trackers list hosted at FST.

Thanks for the explanation. It seemed to me like the open signups were intentionally made :)

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Originally Posted by saulin

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well it seems this was going to happend sooner or later

probably the reasone for that is *fake open signups twice* and some guy(s) probably have been pissed by that lol

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Lol I guess they deserve it. Trying to keek a magic tracker *cough* rare. Well I guess it should be rare. Who the heck really needs a magic tracker?

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Has nothing to do with rarity, and everything to do with quality members.

Edit: Didn't see Jaqueline's response. Disregard this :)

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Originally Posted by Jacqueline

I came here last week to appologize for the inconvience and I told everybody here that they could contact me if they feel that they are potential good members for AOM, being experienced magicians. Guess how many of the 500 members that signed up contacted me? 6. Doesnt that say enough? The rest of the almost 500 members must have been there to trade their membership later on.

Tell me what our secondairy gain would be if we really have fake openings? We share high quality stuff at our site and most of that uploaded stuff was bought by our members. We are not looking for new members. At the moment we have 780 members and 60% of them visit every day. We select our members with great care as we know the material that is shared is very valueble, in every way. Memberships are free so there is no financial advantage for us. With every member we set up, we take a risk of precious secrets leaking on internet. Do you really think that we are waiting for 500 new and potential non-magic members? We have always preferred to be a small but high quality community. The reason why there is nobody that wants to trade invites is that its forbidden to do so. If a member recommends a friend who is invited in, he will lose his membership if this new "so called friend" is not doing good. So tell me... what does it take to make you see other TRUTH?

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Originally Posted by saulin

Some sites do and I think AOM is one of them actually, look at their actions with the fake open signups lately and then deleting everyone. It kind of looks like they just want attention and they want to make themselves feel as a very private site and of course that makes people want to get it more so they can trade it.

Now sites like F*** or UK-T and FTN just want to keep it simple and they would never open signups. They don't care about popularity. At least F*** and UK-T don't. Their contents may suck but they want to be as private as possible.

Then there are the best trackers which are either open for signups and/or are easy to signup or get an invite for. They really don't care about how private or rare they are and they probably are getting profits by donations so they keep a good user database or make sure to keep invites open.

A small tracker does not mean it is the best. A rare tracker is not the best because it is hard to get. In fact a tracker that lacks users ends up with poor content and slow speeds. But I do believe that in order to gain popularity some trackers will go as far as closing signups, removing invites for long periods of time and getting rid of users. People want what they can't have. Then when they need more users to date they open registrations or open signups through invites.

You know the most wanted trackers are the harder ones to get. Not the ones that have the best content or speed or pre times.

I gave away a lot of trackes I didn't use and I let many get disabled by inactivity. I know I have the best ones now so I don't think there is anything I need at the moment, plus I'm more into newsgroups right now. AOM was one of the ones that never got my attention. I remember back then they opened registrations and I signed up and it was well just weird crap that didn't interest me. I don't think I ever downloaded a file so it's one of the ones I just let died.

One more thing. For small trackers people like to use the word community since the content sucks usually and to try to give it a reason so that it can keep some value when trading. Why do I say that? Because I have been watching this closely for a while and there is people that have every tracker except the level 9-10 and they start a story about how they would love to be part of such great community and how they always wanted to be a part of it. Then they might get in and start trading.

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Hi there, well firstly I'm glad you came here and I respect that very much and no I don't believe all that crap about "fake open signup" ect... BUT your quote of only 6 people contacted you out of the 500-600 that originally signed up, i thnk that is crap.. no offense... Reason be, well I signed up from the link yes I found here at FST, then hopes were dashed when my acc was deleted for nothing. So why would I contact AOM again looking for an acc ? I'm not a pro magiCan but yet I'd like to dabble but but I don't see that a point in contacting U as I'm not a pro or don't know that much, I was hoping it was kinda a bitme but only for magic where I could learn.

Also U Jaq came on here the other night refering to the AOM coding and even posted a small bit if I'm not misteken and also saying you know nothing about it...you put it here in public.
You reckon that might have given the incentive to some hackers to try their luck against AOM?

Good luck in getting things sorted out!

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Originally Posted by saulin

AOM was one of the ones that never got my attention. I remember back then they opened registrations and I signed up and it was well just weird crap that didn't interest me. I don't think I ever downloaded a file so it's one of the ones I just let died.

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Did you just read your own post. This quote is exactly why Jacky and AOM do not want new sign-ups other then someone who could really bring something to the table and is an active learner of magic. Out of 500 members most would probably let it die. You just said it yourself.

YOU felt as though the content they had, didn't mean anything to YOU. It is weird and crappy. Not to that Magic Expert(It's probably pure gold). They would cherish this so called "Weird" and "Crappy" material you spew about.

So I think Jacky made her point clear and well. I also respect her for even trying to explain why all the 500 plus new accounts got deleted. I don't think everyones intention who signed up, was for the purpose of being able to trade their accounts, but I bet you 60% of the new members had this intention (Again i'm speculating). Also she stated very clearly.

If you feel as though your an expert and can offer something. Content then and the'll make you a brand new account after doing a minor background check(TO make sure you have the Expertise in magic, that you claim to have). Nothing but happy faces eh?:D:D:D:):):)

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Originally Posted by saulin

One more thing. For small trackers people like to use the word community since the content sucks usually and to try to give it a reason so that it can keep some value when trading. Why do I say that? Because I have been watching this closely for a while and there is people that have every tracker except the level 9-10 and they start a story about how they would love to be part of such great community and how they always wanted to be a part of it. Then they might get in and start trading.

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Hmm. I don't know why I don't feel this way on the matter you speak about in the above quote. I'm about the community, I have those trackers. I don't want or would ever, ever, EVER trade my accounts their(Or accounts period ever). Hmmmm.. I smell *cough*:shit:*cough* in the air.;)

@ fisherman: imagine that you have been into magic for many years and you know there is a dedicated tracker for magic called AOM and you had your chance of signing up and see what goldmine is behind those closed walls... the next time you try to log in your account has been disabled. wouldnt you at least try your best to contact the admin, explain that you understand that this was not intended to be and try to convince us that you you would really really love to be a part of the community? if you cant imagine this.. than think about your most favourit thing on internet you could have access to and there are only a few site which offer this. can you still tell me that you wouldnt at least give it a try to get in anyway?

some of the FST members said AOM opened up to retrieve their passwords. the fact that i talked about coding was only to explain that all passwords are coded and that it is almost impossible to crack these. i am not into the technical part of the site. no matter what i will say to explain, their will always be members (not you specific, but in general) that believe in conspiracy and bad intentions. perhaps this tells more about the people who rather want to believe their own twisted minds than the most logical explanations.

@ krunktastic: either you are an AOM member or very smart! :yup: or perhaps both :D

@ grimms: although you are not an AOM member i know you are very understanding, smart and helpfull! :fst:

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Originally Posted by Jacqueline

Hi Saulin,



We prefer to stay invisible.

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Hello Jacqueline.You prefer to stay invisible? http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bit...e4#post2703095

In that post(which you've now shrewdly edited) you listed out a bunch of encrypted passwords of AOM for ALL of FST to see. So you're directly contradicting yourself by saying that you wanna stay invisible which is obviously NOT the case.

Another key point here is that if you truly wanted to be invisible then you wouldn't feel the need to constantly post about your 'open signup glitch' and be apologetic about it. Frankly speaking, you simply wouldn't care if you wanted to be invisible.

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Originally Posted by Jacqueline

some of the FST members said AOM opened up to retrieve their passwords. the fact that i talked about coding was only to explain that all passwords are coded and that it is almost impossible to crack these. i am not into the technical part of the site. no matter what i will say to explain, their will always be members (not you specific, but in general) that believe in conspiracy and bad intentions. perhaps this tells more about the people who rather want to believe their own twisted minds than the most logical explanations.


@ grimms: although you are not an AOM member i know you are very understanding, smart and helpfull! :fst:

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Trust me it's them wanting to believe their own rhetoric (Twisted minds is a good way to define it). Thanks i'm very smart, honest, helpful(When I can be) and I try to be understanding (Sometime people are TOO dumb to be helped, I try though). You got me down to a tee.:D

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Originally Posted by Jacqueline

Guess how many of the 500 members that signed up contacted me? 6. Doesnt that say enough? The rest of the almost 500 members must have been there to trade their membership later on.

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people didn't applied cause they know you're very strict and they have very low chance to success, so they just giving up in advance.
I asked you once
how much from your all appling are approve ??? 3%???

you demand "highly experience" and no one is david copperfild here.
what about some guys who volunteer hospitals and just wanna make little smile to some injured kids by some magic???
I find it more more important then people who start searching magic material in wiki or any other website just so they can apply and look like "highly experience".
believe me... 70% from your members are amateurs.

AOM is the best :)

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Originally Posted by soulreaper

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Originally Posted by Jacqueline

Hi Saulin,



We prefer to stay invisible.

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Hello Jacqueline.You prefer to stay invisible? http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-aom-open-but-a-mistake-new-account-deleted-281070/page4#post2703095

In that post(which you've now shrewdly edited) you listed out a bunch of encrypted passwords of AOM for ALL of FST to see. So you're directly contradicting yourself by saying that you wanna stay invisible which is obviously NOT the case.

Another key point here is that if you truly wanted to be invisible then you wouldn't feel the need to constantly post about your 'open signup glitch' and be apologetic about it. Frankly speaking, you simply wouldn't care if you wanted to be invisible.

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Please don't make any more stupid posts like this. Jacqueline is here to clear up any confusion with AOM having open sign ups, she doesn't need a hateful post like this just because you are angry that you can't join AOM. Sorry to break it to you kid but they don't want collectors, they want magic lovers. You should feel privileged that she is taking the time to come on FST, which is crawling with 13 year olds like yourself, and respond to comments like this.
PS: encrypted passwords - note the first word before 'password'

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

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Originally Posted by soulreaper

Hello Jacqueline.You prefer to stay invisible? http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-aom-open-but-a-mistake-new-account-deleted-281070/page4#post2703095

In that post(which you've now shrewdly edited) you listed out a bunch of encrypted passwords of AOM for ALL of FST to see. So you're directly contradicting yourself by saying that you wanna stay invisible which is obviously NOT the case.

Another key point here is that if you truly wanted to be invisible then you wouldn't feel the need to constantly post about your 'open signup glitch' and be apologetic about it. Frankly speaking, you simply wouldn't care if you wanted to be invisible.

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Please don't make any more stupid posts like this. Jacqueline is here to clear up any confusion with AOM having open sign ups, she doesn't need a hateful post like this just because you are angry that you can't join AOM. Sorry to break it to you kid but they don't want collectors, they want magic lovers. You should feel privileged that she is taking the time to come on FST, which is crawling with 13 year olds like yourself, and respond to comments like this.
PS: encrypted passwords - note the first word before 'password'

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Wow,where do i begin to respond to your incredibly hateful post?
First, you call me stupid and then go on to accuse me of being an angry 13 yr old.

Your assumption of me being angry because i couldn't join AOM is wrong as i didn't even bother joining there.Your assumption of me being a collector is also wrong. You don't know me and you don't know what trackers i'm on and you certainly don't know what interests me. So please for heaven's sake stop assuming.

Ahahahaa, I don't feel 'privileged' if Jacqueline becomes a member of FST but for some mysterious reason you do.:naughty:

By "encrypted" passwords i meant this:- If my password was "misdirection" then that probably would be encrypted to something like "1askfj2200dfkjasdf" and stored in their database.

Lastly,stay calm.

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Originally Posted by soulreaper

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Originally Posted by Benjamin

Please don't make any more stupid posts like this. Jacqueline is here to clear up any confusion with AOM having open sign ups, she doesn't need a hateful post like this just because you are angry that you can't join AOM. Sorry to break it to you kid but they don't want collectors, they want magic lovers. You should feel privileged that she is taking the time to come on FST, which is crawling with 13 year olds like yourself, and respond to comments like this.
PS: encrypted passwords - note the first word before 'password'

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Wow,where do i begin to respond to your incredibly hateful post?
First, you call me stupid and then go on to accuse me of being an angry 13 yr old.

Your assumption of me being angry because i couldn't join AOM is wrong as i didn't even bother joining there.Your assumption of me being a collector is also wrong. You don't know me and you don't know what trackers i'm on and you certainly don't know what interests me. So please for heaven's sake stop assuming.

Ahahahaa, I don't feel 'privileged' if Jacqueline becomes a member of FST but for some mysterious reason you do.:naughty:

By "encrypted" passwords i meant this:- If my password was "misdirection" then that probably would be encrypted to something like "1askfj2200dfkjasdf" and stored in their database.

Lastly,stay calm.

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Are you angry because I didn't reply to your PM begging for an AOM invite? Yes you are :happy:
Show some respect, I know you well enough.

Who the hell wants an invite to that crap site anyway

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Originally Posted by Lee1

Who the hell wants an invite to that crap site anyway

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hmmm. maybe somebody that is into magic :x

I love AOM ;)

wow.. im surprised about the hard words of some of you. obvious it doesnt make a difference whatever you say or dont say. i can only be happy we dont have negative members like some of you.

i will ask the admin/mods to remove all postings concerning our website.

goodbye to you all. i wish you all the best. aom memebers, i see you on the other side!

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Originally Posted by Jacqueline

wow.. im surprised about the hard words of some of you. obvious it doesnt make a difference whatever you say or dont say. i can only be happy we dont have negative members like some of you.

i will ask the admin/mods to remove all postings concerning our website.

goodbye to you all. i wish you all the best. aom memebers, i see you on the other side!

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My god what a drama queen.
*shrugs*

Benjamin,please post my pm here in which i begged you for an AOM invite. I don't know you one bit and i dont care to either. Get a grip,sunshine.

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Originally Posted by naranja

i think aom is just after the donations, they keep opening up signups on purpose to get more $$$ they already make 5000/month so i dont get it....

also the aom database is on p2p everyone can log in with any users password....

its a nice site still, but you can get magician torrents also on tbz or salad.tl

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can you proof that we make 5000 per month? of course you cant. calculate with me. we have 800 members. that would be 6,25 per member per month. entering aom is totally free, we never beg for donations so why would members donate 6,25 if they could get it on tbz or a site from which i cant even take the name in my mouth. i can assure you that only a very very very small amount of members donate. all money goes back to the community for prizes and group buys. so unless you can show me prints of my paypal account i would recommand you talk about things you DO know about.

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Originally Posted by Jacqueline

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Originally Posted by naranja

i think aom is just after the donations, they keep opening up signups on purpose to get more $$$ they already make 5000/month so i dont get it....

also the aom database is on p2p everyone can log in with any users password....

its a nice site still, but you can get magician torrents also on tbz or salad.tl

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can you proof that we make 5000 per month? of course you cant. calculate with me. we have 800 members. that would be 6,25 per member per month. entering aom is totally free, we never beg for donations so why would members donate 6,25 if they could get it on tbz or a site from which i cant even take the name in my mouth. i can assure you that only a very very very small amount of members donate. all money goes back to the community for prizes and group buys. so unless you can show me prints of my paypal account i would recommand you talk about things you DO know about.

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AOM is a nice place to be. Donations are used for the Groupbuys. Though I disagree that they use the donations for themselves but even if they do, what's the harm. They are providing u some service then why not earn a reward for that..