I tell you whyQuote:
Originally Posted by hasnainbk
I wanna know it too why is this poll posted here?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossco
look at this post and you will know
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-pml...5/postcount141
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I tell you whyQuote:
Originally Posted by hasnainbkI wanna know it too why is this poll posted here?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossco
look at this post and you will know
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-pml...5/postcount141
Why is there any talk besides invite talk on this section anyway?
NO problem for me ,
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Originally Posted by Alexson777I tell you whyQuote:
Originally Posted by hasnainbk
look at this post and you will know
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-pml...5/postcount141
aha we need a +1 icon so i can give it to mievmo
Of course.
Religion, Politics and forums don't mix too well. :dabs:
It just proves the point and drives it home more succinctly than any poll can.Quote:
Originally Posted by ocanica
If religious groups want to do specific giveaways, then create a social group and keep it there.
and we keep it there but some members don't want to leave us alone and post offensive comments with no reason.and we reported them but no one has the courage to delete this posts which is against the rules.Quote:
If religious groups want to do specific giveaways, then create a social group and keep it there.
instead.we have poll to stop us from making giveaways.
I know some are angry cause we didn't take the bait.
but hard luck
I don't get it really.
we came here offering our invites to our beloved fellow members and out of no where comes this and start flaming with no reason.
it's like i'm having a party and uninvited and parasite creature comes to my house and start insulting my father.
and they are saying it wasn't offensive.
imagine that.
I think you missed the point of this poll. It isn't about discussing religion which is no problem at all. It is about the "culprits" that use every excuse they can find to flame and insult other people.Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorBubbzIf talking about religion won't be disallowed, then why will the "culprits" be banned?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue_Skies
If it wasn't for them this poll, nor this post, would not exist.
But you can't have a private party in a public place without attracting uninvited guests.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
Keep the party private and all will be ok, leave the public places for everyone and anyone to enjoy no matter religion or creed and we will all get along fine.
Imagine that.
And you are making the case for the point of the poll very well indeed.
you mean that's i'm wrong and he is right in flaming me. :D
that's very nice from you.
i want you to take a look at those
why didn't you ask him to keep the party private :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtMajor http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../.....e/viewpost.gif
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Originally Posted by monk3y http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/../.....e/viewpost.gif
Oh and thanks for the helpful Tags FST users nice to to see such things ( "cheaters, fuck isrealis," ).
Active MOD needed ASAP to FST Bitrorrent section things are getting out of control lately
Don't just sit on your fingers then, use them to report the thread and help get the perpetrators banned, voice your disgust the proper way.
and this is what Kflint said
why it went unpunished when ti comes to insulting Muslims.Quote:
I posted a sticky on the tagging situation, people won't stay unpunished for such actions
Staff are acutally discussing of the best ways to change this feature that obviously doesn't work right now
come on.I make a public party and invite people to celebrate so my reward will be insults and racism.
is that what you trying to say?
nice.
Well it wasn't private party we was share invites with FSTer and then some kid come to flame and offensive us
and he flamed our religion this means racism.
so is racism allowed here if it is pointed at muslims?
from what i saw.i guess it is :(
and i dunno what you mean by religious group are we asking people to worship our god :D
it just a group for people who love a prophet.
but the one who came and posted racist comments he didn't criticize our group .he insulted our religion.
it's racism.plain and simple
Look Guys I am a Muslim and I believe in my faith.I love to be a Muslim but Please never get it wrong when someone who does not know our prophet and posts something like mievmo said.what mievmo said it just meant he don't have any ethics,he don't know morality but it doesn't mean he insulted us or our religion,We have the greatest religion in the world and we should also have open hearts...Plz give a moment to the thought I said and it will clear your minds.when Alexson777 posted PML Giveaway,I PM'ed him to add the wikipedia link for info too and I gave him the link too,but it was never posted....don't get me wrong here but it was mistake on our part,if someone doesn't know about a person and unconsciously disrespects him,it means he is ignorant,and mievmo was ignorant...so just cool down and keep doing good things.
Sadly enough, this is exactly how it goes. :dabs:Quote:
Originally Posted by SenorBubbz
How about having an open mind as well? Realizing that others are not always disrespecting your religion by simply stating a different opinion would show a bit of tolerance - something Muslims are (sometimes) stereotyped as not having.Quote:
Originally Posted by hasnainbk
Statements such as "our religion is the best" is easily regarded as intolerant and arrogant.
my post got deleted?.....
all I said was
when some members here to try to be nice and share with their fellow members out of love and respect.they are being punished by insults and racism.
PML were formed on peace and love and we are always open for any criticism as a group but we are not open to racism and insults.
we didn't say our god is the best.we make a giveaway but someone insults our religion and some here supports him.though his actions was against the rules,against common sense and against morals.
whatever I said,I was talking to my Muslim brothers,so don't start over it.We respect everyone's opinion and tolerate,some of us are just emotional.So if any of us said anything wrong,we apologize.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skizo
How about having an open mind as well? Realizing that others are not always disrespecting your religion by simply stating a different opinion would show a bit of tolerance - something Muslims are (sometimes) stereotyped as not having.Quote:
Originally Posted by hasnainbk
Statements such as "our religion is the best" is easily regarded as intolerant and arrogant.
It's not racism actually, and my POV is just different to yours, I'm not flaming anyone, but it seems you cannot take that on board.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
I do not want to see any reference to any religion at all, so if you post an item that says red is best, someone will come along and say blue is better, that is what forums do, it is better to keep them neutral at all times so you cannot take offence to what is being posted in response to a thread opened.
And by all means keep going, you are making the case for the removal of all religious topics here very well.
Noted by the Supreme Court case Engel v. Vitale, the prayer:Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence upon Thee, and we beg Thy blessings upon us, our parents, our teachers and our country.was recited every morning by the students, faculty, and staff of a school in New York as part of their "Spiritual Training" program. The New York Court of Appeals allowed this prayer as long as they kept it voluntary. Every morning, students were asked to leave if they didn't want to recite the prayer.
Parents of ten students took this issue straight to the Supreme Court. They protested that this exercise was unconstitutional, that it 'broke' the wall between chuch and state upheld by the Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses of the First Amendment (the Religion Clauses):
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.and that the State of New York must abide by Federal law because of the Fourteenth Amendment:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.And even though the exercise was voluntary and nondenominational, it was still indisputably apparent that the school was indirectly coercing the religious minorities to conform to the approved spirituality.
Form the conclusion by yourself.
I guess we deserve the apology :)
and we don't tolerate racism.
but we didn't post any of these.we didn't even mentioned islam.we made a giveaway under a name PML.Quote:
I do not want to see any reference to any religion at all, so if you post an item that says red is best, someone will come along and say blue is better, that is what forums do, it is better to keep them neutral at all times so you cannot take offence to what is being posted in response to a thread opened.
but someone used racist comments and he wasn't punished or at least the post didn't get deleted.
I agree we shouldn't debate about religions in invite section but say that to this who insults my religion not to me.
this poll is made to stop our giveaways not to stop racism.
Skizo look well we think our religion is the bestQuote:
Originally Posted by SkizoSadly enough, this is exactly how it goes. :dabs:
How about having an open mind as well? Realizing that others are not always disrespecting your religion by simply stating a different opinion would show a bit of tolerance - something Muslims are (sometimes) stereotyped as not having.Quote:
Originally Posted by hasnainbk
Statements such as "our religion is the best" is easily regarded as intolerant and arrogant.
but we not have right to make u think same
but also we have right not any kid flaming and offensive us
BTW we respect Jesus and Moses
we never ever say anything bad about them so we expect some
respect to our Prophet either
isn't that our right :dabs:
when someone stands against racism.he stands because he has morals and high values and because he thinks that human beings are equal and have the right and the freedom to believe anything they want.
and when someone insults a religion this called racism.
if we agree to such actions we will be no different than hitler.
and some trying to make it looks like we are sensitive and defensive.
are we?
when i sit in place minding my own business and someone insults me with no reason.
and when i called the cops they said they can't do anything cause they like his actions.
you called me sensitive!!
it's brutality and racism that what i'm sensitive about.
it's hatred and ignorance that's what i'm defensive about.
SAM & Alexson777...plz dont post anymore....
FST mods plz close this thread,its not making things better.
and delete or edit this post:
As many reported it,its not your right to decide on it..many reported,so you edit.
Now plz close this thread.
no
Wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
Tolerance & freedom of expression is to be defended just as much your ideals, and if they don't meet in the middle, who is going to arbitrate to say who is right and who is wrong?
It is best to prevent a war than try to end a war.
you mean it's ok for anyone to insult my religion.
it's ok for any one to insult me because of my beliefs.
:)
criticism is something and racism is something else.
it was a giveaway.we weren't discussing religion so when it posted its intent was to insult my religion not to criticize it.
and it didn't give itself even a little time to stop and think or read more about the issue.
it just flamed our beliefs.
we asked for its post to be deleted but no one listened to us.
so this is racism.it wanted to insult us and offended us it is clear.yet no one cares
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Originally Posted by SAM
Nobody has said that.:huh:
i guess this what he meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtMajorWrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
Tolerance & freedom of expression is to be defended just as much your ideals, and if they don't meet in the middle, who is going to arbitrate to say who is right and who is wrong?
It is best to prevent a war than try to end a war.
if it's wrong statement so it's ok to insult a religion so let's encourage that by insulting the jews.
oooh.wait,we can't.it's against the rules :)
Wrong, again.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAMi guess this what he meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtMajor
if it's wrong statement so it's ok to insult a religion so let's encourage that by insulting the jews.
oooh.wait,we can't.it's against the rules :)
But keep going, your ranting is at least making this thread more interesting than what it should be.
religion has nothing to do with bittorrent so like the poll has shown dont allow it here. the only real thing religion has ever given anyone is war.
is it okay then to insult Judaism :D
come on :)
we all know what is going on here?
stop trying to cover it up.
any way
my last words.
i used to respect this forum.i went through debate after debate with fellow members in many trackers about how this forum is good and how reality is a good person and how mods here are good.
i said it here and i said every where.
but thank god i see it now and i know what my friends meant and i think i awe them an apology.
so i apologize to my friends and fellow members you are right and i was wrong and i hope you forgive me.
and thanks FST to let me understand that a good person who respect his self and his religion and his beliefs had no place here.
Sam, English is not my first language, but there´s no way that me or a native from Middelsex can find there what you say you see.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAMi guess this what he meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtMajor
if it's wrong statement so it's ok to insult a religion so let's encourage that by insulting the jews.
oooh.wait,we can't.it's against the rules :)
Besides, my friend, you are mixing concepts, racism and religion... no way that fits... as far as I know there´s not an exclusive race in Muslims (although for me there´s one only race: the human race). Racism is one thing, religious intolerance is another one, absolutely different.
What a drama queen you've been throughout this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
Don't let the door bang your ass on the way out.
and who told you i'm leaving. :D
racism or religious intolerance.
it's offensive and an insult and by the board rules it should be deleted.
and are we playing a word game here
i asked a question
is it ok to insult Judaism?
yes or no please :)
No religious posting here please, this is forum to discuss and share our views about P2P not about religion those are for the politicians and religious leaders (who keep quarelling most of the time). Lets not dampen the spirit of P2P by bringing religion. There is only one religion here and that would be P2P
Hasnain, I know you had good intentions in making your comment, but I hope you realize that saying "we [Muslims] have the greatest religion in the world" might offend people of other religions? This is a perfect example of why no religious content, affiliations or discussions should be permitted in the bittorrent or invite forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by hasnainbk
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Originally Posted by SAM
First of all, it is never OK to make insulting comments about another person's religion or to insult people because of their religion, and anyone who does so should not be tolerated. However, I have to say that the idiots and bigots would not be able to say anything if you didn't bring up religion in the first place. Just don't bring up religion and THAT is the point of the poll.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
Why do you need to do the giveaway under the "Profit Muhammad Lovers" name? If you're in the bittorrent section, you're there to talk about bittorrent related topics, and if you're in the invites section, you're there to talk about, trade, give or ask for invites. Why do you need to publicly proclaim your religious affiliation in an invite giveaway? Be proud of your religion, worship as you wish, but keep it out of the bittorrent section and save it for the appropriate forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
Also, FST should not allow signatures that proclaim a person's religious belief or affiliation or that have a religious message. They are irrelevant to file-sharing, and they are catalysts for flaming and argument. For example, I saw that someone had a signature saying "Allah is the greatest" - I'm not a religious person myself, but I could see how a person of another faith might offended by that comment.
If you couldn't tell, I voted "NO Religion" :)
You did:Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
Obviously you don't stick to your words.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
I couldn't give a shit personally, however, the point is to keep all religion out of BT section. Go & insult whoever you like in the library or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAM
And if you must know, I've reported many an insult aimed at your religion in the BT section, and they have been deleted way before you prob even saw them.
so we are not allowed to insult Judaism.right
so why is it allowed when it comes to islam.
by the way i said my last words not i'm leaving
i said i should apologize to my friends and i did.
and i'm not question your morals sgtmajor
i know you are good person.
what puzzles me why you didn't report this post then?
and why don't you see that i'm right in asking for removing this post?
what i understand from your post that you agreed that pople shouldn't insult other people beliefs in the invite section.
isn't that what i was trying to say :)
i'm trying to say that this post was offensive and should be deleted.
^ Why is Susie allowed to eat ice-cream and I'm not? What, are you like 10?
I say NO Religious Posting In This Section, because I have seen how insanely mad some people can go. And peace & religion are supposed to go together.
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Originally Posted by Alexson777