You should have a vote on whether to bring in democracy.
That's the only fair way to decide.
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You should have a vote on whether to bring in democracy.
That's the only fair way to decide.
Oh.. Now I see the rage uplifting from you.. Seems you are throwing accusations all over.. Problem is your post ids full of BS.. Check this out:
You claim you don't take food, water and co. from Israel? You said yourself you buy stuff from Israeli companies.. So, why should we give it to you my dear sir?
And to be honest, the Egyptians could do just as well without you as we could.. They never wanted the Gaza strip back.. Too many problems. Look how right they were.
By the way, it's an F-16 plane, not F-19.
On top of that, I shall go back to my initial post and point out to you that the IDF has aborted so many missions because the militants were hiding behind innocent civilians. Would you agree it "fair" to kill civilians, if Hizbollah and Hamas target their rockets at our civilians? I would say yes, but we don't. We target militants. In the process, because of their cowardish tactics, we hit civilians along the way. Don't try and get any sympathy for that. It's simply sad. Go ask any soldier in Israel if he would ever jeopardise a womans or childs life instead of his own. You'll get an overwhelming NO from all of them. Why? Because we have soldiers here, not cowards.
The world won't accept Hamas (and rightfully so, may I add), because they are a terrorist group. That won't change. They target civilians. They are terrorists. End of story.
Problem is that their in the middle of it and have no perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Oooh.. Scary. Thing is, it's your civilians who are suffering from these acts as of now, not ours. Go dig a hole and find your way out of Gaza.. We're doing fine here without you guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by S3v3N
How do you need perspective to see that democracy is the only fair system.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787Problem is that their in the middle of it and have no perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Difference between a soldier and a thug is that a soldier knows that there are rules even to a war.Quote:
Originally Posted by tralalala
Well there's also the fact that he's heavily armed and highly trained with a full military infrastructure supporting him.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787Difference between a soldier and a thug is that a soldier knows that there are rules even to a war.Quote:
Originally Posted by tralalala
Not always the case but I won't argue the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
are you stupid ?
Israeli army do massacres every day , lots of innocent ppl dying .. what does this make Israel ...
Hamas are not terrorists they defend their country .. you are the terrorist brought from god knows where to live in a land that is not yours . wake up .
@Idol: True, but what do you do about the thug coming to attack the soldier with no pre-provocation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP FugleyWell there's also the fact that he's heavily armed and highly trained with a full military infrastructure supporting him.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
@JP: Well said.
the amount of innocent civilians killed by Hammas doesn't come even near to the amount of massacres the Israeli army did on innocent ppl .
What massacres? We kill people who are threatening our people. If these people hide behind civilians, well, I guess that's just their sacrifice for their "holy war".Quote:
Originally Posted by S3v3N
It makes Israel a state that will take matter into it's hands when shit goes out of control - Yes, I am implying that Hamas militants are nutcases. Go and tell me why in the West Bank there are hardly any incidents, whereas in Gaza, every day you hear of a couple militants trying to get near the fence and kill a soldier (or ten)?
Hamas defend their country? What country? You are an autonomy. Fact.
We are not terrorists - The definition of a terrorist is someone who uses terrorism ("the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." - From Oxford dictionary) to get his will.
We don't do that. We go according to the "game rules", we do not TARGET civilians. We hit them on our way to the militants why hide behind them. Is that so difficult to understand?
The land is ours, we have had our state on it for almost 60 years. You have your own piece of land. But being the prats you are, you can't get enough of what was offered 60 years ago. You had to have it all. This is the price you've paid for it.
Bite your lip and live with it.
First rule of a soldier defend yourself and your comrades.Quote:
Originally Posted by tralalala
Following orders comes somewhere after that.:lol:
I was under the impression that the Israeli Army was well organised, well trained and well equipped.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787Not always the case but I won't argue the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Nothing to support that tho', I just thought it.
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Originally Posted by S3v3N
Name 10 MASSACRES (not of militants, obviously). (massacre: deliberately and violently kill (a large number of people). - From Oxford dictionary).
Go ahead...
I could go ahead and name well over 100 massacres Palestinian terrorists have done within Israel.
I was making a generalization not being specific to one country or even a certain historical period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP FugleyI was under the impression that the Israeli Army was well organised, well trained and well equipped.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Nothing to support that tho', I just thought it.
Ons man's massacre is another man's large number of people being deliberately killed in a violent way.
^ he obviously can't tell the difference :huh:
Oh right, I thought that given we were discussing the Isreali Army you would understand that I was talking about the Israeli Army.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787I was making a generalization not being specific to one country or even a certain historical period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
we were here before you and before your 60 years on this land , you come here , attached us , took our land and claim that they are yours ...
one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
:ermm:
Is that so? Apparently, we were there somewhere around 5000 years ago.. It says so in some famous book.. Doesn't say who wrote it.. Can't remember it's name. Bible, maybe?
Tempted to say how many viewed Israel in 1947 but they did have an United Nations mandate.
what do you call the 20 ppl killed today !
a game !
it's a massacre .
Exactly, and as expected, the Arabs wouldn't take what was offered.. For them it was all or nothing. In the end, they were pwned. As usual.
It's called a response. Twat.Quote:
Originally Posted by S3v3N
Name these men.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-dye
Bill and Jimmy.
I tend to like all people be they Palestinian or Israeli just as long as they're not trying to kill me.
So who's the bloke who's both a terrorist and a freedom fighter
Billy.
Fuck sake, how many of them are trying to kill you.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
Figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by tralalala
Billy and Jimmy for sure but there may be others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP FugleyFuck sake, how many of them are trying to kill you.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787
No, his surname is Watson.
Post of the Day. :glag:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
No wonder you're keeping your powder dry mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolEyes787Billy and Jimmy for sure but there may be others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
It's like walking a tightrope.
@s3v3n - You keep referring to the "innocent killings" and "killing of civilians". Hammas doesn't have proper soldiers and many of the deaths are "claimed" as civilians killings. I don't remember the last time I read about Hammas soldiers dying. Coincidence or are your people claiming they were civilians as propaganda?
A militant civilian who is firing rockets is not a civilian at all.
Or actually walking on it.
Skizo old boy. We're having a positive influence on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizoPost of the Day. :glag:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr JP Fugley
Dashed spiffing to see that.