Thank you Brandon and FtN! Great idea...! hasn't made much difference tho also probably a good time to test and catch the H&Rers;);)..
P.S. may I suggest adding few thousand peeps
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Thank you Brandon and FtN! Great idea...! hasn't made much difference tho also probably a good time to test and catch the H&Rers;);)..
P.S. may I suggest adding few thousand peeps
Brandon Don't get me wrong all the stuff i said it's my own small opinion about ftn. ok you like to know cheating bitQuote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
1 FTN auto uploading movies,dvdr,tv shows, where the hell are the Sample?
Sample missing indeed that's is called cheating Brandon just to improve the pretime. giveing out 99% of the release. Still after cheating ftn still behide the Races. :naughty: You don't have to follow SCT foot step Brandon by cheating that's just a opinion am sayying my self Brandon.
2 I know what you mean Brandon, i can't say anything!!
3 honesty i shouldn't have said that bit am sorry.
4 why i care is in this torrent world, i like both sides tracker and forum and
them trophy holders sucks and if they wasn't there i bet ftn would have been very active tracker, you get me what am sayying Brandon
I hope this clears up the topic Brandon it's understanble :D
I wouldn't consider it cheating. A sample consists of a smaller file than a rar itself. Sure, it might cut off a half second, maybe a second. Big deal. The main reason why we skip samples is to conserve bandwidth. Samples to me are pointless in the torrent field. Nukers use samples to check a release, which is why they're there. I see no point uploading a sample for a 300mB tv ep that would take you a few min to grab and check yourself. Especially if it's a typical HDTV rip. Not biting back at you, as I said you have your own opinion but I do hope I've enlightened you a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by jam0980trBrandon Don't get me wrong all the stuff i said it's my own small opinion about ftn. ok you like to know cheating bitQuote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
1 FTN auto uploading movies,dvdr,tv shows, where the hell are the Sample?
Sample missing indeed that's is called cheating Brandon just to improve the pretime. giveing out 99% of the release. Still after cheating ftn still behide the Races. :naughty: You don't have to follow SCT foot step Brandon by cheating that's just a opinion am sayying my self Brandon.
2 I know what you mean Brandon, i can't say anything!!
3 honesty i shouldn't have said that bit am sorry.
4 why i care is in this torrent world, i like both sides tracker and forum and
them trophy holders sucks and if they wasn't there i bet ftn would have been very active tracker, you get me what am sayying Brandon
I hope this clears up the topic Brandon it's understanble :D
Lol it's cheating because there isn't a sample...
Get out of the house a bit, jam.
What about BMTV then? all extracted rar's and never any samples..Does that make them cheaters too?
You need the sample to have your full e-boner?
o_O
Thanks Brandon for the reply, i know what you mean and good luck to improve the site ;)
@VillageShaman
VillageShaman let me tell you in my own words sites that races with pre time don't give out 99% mate they give out 100% and that's is called full scene release. I have been around like all most 6 years of torrenting and i allways downloaded full scene release not @ 99% mate. this is new in the torrent world and i have no idea why they do it. Still in my opinion i call it cheating or uploading uncomplete rels
VillageShaman do you know the meaning of full scene release ?
it's seems like you don't understand it, google is you friend search there, you will soon understand :lol:
bmtv no comment
now am out of here, I have to catch up with all my downloads & uploaders on my ftp
Sounds like it could be abused..
jam, i ALWAYS delete samples without watching them, I don't see how not including them would cause you such a fuss..
On second thought they might be useful on cam releases, and I'll probably start dl them for those before I get the whole file (canadians isps have a capped dl bandwidth now, it sucks) but in general i would think samples are just wasted bandwidth and space for most torrenters
Great Job Guys!
Makes a great site even better!
T.S.O.L It's not the fuss when i upload movie packs, tv packs, 720 pack dvdr pack. and much more that i can't say,I like to have my packs and the rest in full scene release and NO SFV ERROR if you know what i mean ;) by the way you deleted your stuff, i don't i save them to my servers mate and they come in usefull when it's needed!! now all the stuff i have been sayying i hope you people understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by T.S.O.L.
leechers don't care long as they can leech it & seed they happy.
no more comment..
yeah i just don't bother to check for errors in shitty xvid or dvdr quality video that I'm gonna watch a couple times at most..
jam just stop talking, you are only making matters worse for yourself
Honestly, this new rule isn't going to affect a lot of the users. Most will keep their torrents active for quite a long time after they're completed. But it does show the trust that the staff likes to give it's users, and that is appreciated.
wouldn't increasing the user limit to 10k work better than this cheap tricks, no ratio, no seed time? Yeah, 20k peers out of 5k users is a good number in report to the # of users, but it's a terribly small number overall. For the site to work good, to keep the packs alive and speedy, you need users to work on them, but you don't have users now. Brandon said once the small userbase makes it easier for him to keep track of his people, but i'm sure he already knows most his users and he wouldn't have any trouble with some extra faces.
Increasing the user limit would probably just result in a bunch of seedboxes and trophy collectors, whatever that's worth.
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what do you expect? Make a tracker with 10 users then hype it everywhere how good it is and how hard it is to get in. People want it just so they can say they have it and not use it like you say, and people who have don't use it because it doesn't have much practical use and there are more than enough alternatives. The entire approach to FTN is just wrong at the moment if you ask me and if i were Brandon i'd put some serious work into it, and the mentality needs to change to do that, 5k users isn't enough, no matter how many times you look in the mirror and repeat it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NPAX1
The userlimit is set at 6000 ATM.
It's more than enough, for a small private site.
However I'm sure Brandon is going to take all this bitching very seriously right now and invite another 30000 people into the tracker ;)
I still don`t understand why Brandon waste his time discussing here...
FTN: 5k users/20k peers = avg. 4 per user
SCC: 15k users/60k peers = avg. 4 per user
ScT: 19k users/130k peers = avg 6,8 per user
ScT=Win.
sct been up for 3 years, FTN for 2, and SCC for 1 ;)
villageshaman:
what jam is talking about is the actual scene side of torrents, not about the everyday use of downloading something for you to have. people involved in the scene feel "cheated" if they do not get a full release because the scene has high standards, which are meant to be followed. for most of us here, we use ftn to download content and just want to watch whatever we download, so we do not care about the .sfv and the sample etc, but the reason it is a scene release is because it comes with all those files. if people didnt care wether it was a scene release or not surely they would download most of their content of TL? (no disrespect ftn) if ftn claim to be a scene tracker, then they should include the full files in their releases, but they dont because, as brandon says, it is a waste of bandwidth, and also, not many people use them, or need them. i am just trying to make it clearer what jam is talking about. i am not attacking ftn, saying they are bad or anything, because i use the site and enjoy it very much, i am merely trying to make it clear to you that a scene release should include the full amount of files, but maybe to someone like you, who does not need these added files, and just wants the movie to watch, it does not matter, but to other people, this is important.
=)
:D
Clear as day.
I didn't even notice they didn't have samples. lollerz
Yeah me neither dunse.
It's really irrelevant for us, I guess.
its irrelevant for me as well but i was just sticking up for jam :D
Who the fuck downloads samples? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by jam0980trBrandon Don't get me wrong all the stuff i said it's my own small opinion about ftn. ok you like to know cheating bitQuote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
1 FTN auto uploading movies,dvdr,tv shows, where the hell are the Sample?
Sample missing indeed that's is called cheating Brandon just to improve the pretime. giveing out 99% of the release. Still after cheating ftn still behide the Races. :naughty: You don't have to follow SCT foot step Brandon by cheating that's just a opinion am sayying my self Brandon.
2 I know what you mean Brandon, i can't say anything!!
3 honesty i shouldn't have said that bit am sorry.
4 why i care is in this torrent world, i like both sides tracker and forum and
them trophy holders sucks and if they wasn't there i bet ftn would have been very active tracker, you get me what am sayying Brandon
I hope this clears up the topic Brandon it's understanble :D
Learn to read an NFO.
plz understand what am tryying to say it's easy for you to say who the fuck download samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkizoWho the fuck downloads samples? :blink:Quote:
Originally Posted by jam0980tr
Learn to read an NFO.
Skizo let me tell you as a mate samples are needed to compete the full scene rels,
(for uploaders this is very important and you will have no sfv error if you got the sample)
you didn't read all my poster on this thread, people still don't understand me.:O
Skizo I have been reading nfo's last 5 years mate.
Skizo don't get me wrong scene put there files there to be download at 100% not at 99% anyway what ever ftn or sct are doing isn't gonna change the torrent world people will go else where to get there files, uploadding 99% that is called tryying to cheat there pre or uploading uncompleted scene release.
well i always seed for at least 4 or 5 days so this is pretty useless for me
but that will not be the problem much since FTN members seed they torrents by the book :)
When reading your post I wonder if you are actually a member on FTN?Quote:
Originally Posted by dragos
Anyways ... I find it to be a very good move. As I see it the FTN-staff is givin their members a lot of credit and trust.
That can't be an easy decision. Let's face it, hit 'n run's are very common in almost every tracker. Imho that has to do with the fact there's a lot BT'ers that aren't very mature, that are egoistic, selfish, immoral and not givin a damn about their fellow tracker-members.
I guess a tracker is just like real life. Most people in 'real' life tend to behave the same. Only intrested in their own welbeing and not caring for others. I guess FTN's userbase is one of the better communities out there and I hope this new rule will be succesfull and will be the start of a whole new tendency on other trackers so that these ratio-rules that had to be imposed on members can be reduced to a seeding-recommendation.
You might find this a little idealistic of me to think it will succeed, but with the right userbase and a little incentive from the tracker-staff it should have a chance to work out just fine.
Good luck with it.
great news. but too bad i dont have ftn
Yeah, I read this topic and am really sad I'm not part of a community with this much trust. Ah well, maybe some day.
i hear alot about FTN
it have great community and nice staff nad of course very nice forums
beside its great content with great pretime
and its another good thing staff did
thats why i hope some day i will be member there