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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
dude
my account was up: 800GB dl: 170
i am a perfect seeder and also they banned me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
without any thing
dont have multi account ,, use from seedbox only ,, active ,, never cheat ,, never trade any1 cheater or anything ,,,,,,
can any1 tell me why i am banned :D
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
I am not a member but someone correct me if I'm wrong. Don't they have a rule about overseeding?
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
Nothing about overseeding, this guy has 100TB seeded, and he's still there...
But there is this:
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Originally Posted by HDBits Rules
# You MUST make use of your account. If you download very little, your account will be disabled.
So maybe if you don't download much for a few months you get banned?
Anyways, you might wanna visit #hdbits.support on P2P-Network, it could be another reason.
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Originally Posted by
bugs.bunny
I am not a member but someone correct me if I'm wrong. Don't they have a rule about overseeding?
look at ^Lord account at everywhere what is overseeding ... overseeding is 1 tb :huh: this ppl only had 1 tb or above ...
and about hdbits i hope some1 will do something for this tracker cuz ppl was really angry when ppl disabled...
and tracker owner far away from the tracker if some1 wanna donate will wait for weeks for reply pm from he ...
but i really congratz to sportcenter he is really a good man ... Not like others;)
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Originally Posted by
kukushka
and rehashing some content taken' from other sources.
on a site like HDbits that is a HORRIBLE idea... ya you can do that kinda thing at lower level trackers.. no one will probably even notice..
but imagine the hdbits staff looking at those stats... since the guys client won't report him downloading ANYTHING for that torrent from hdbits and only reports him uploading...
9/10 times that is someone cheating ....
with a top tier site like HDbits don't do anything fancy or special... download 100% of the torrent directly from HDbits and seed back all you can. CONFUSION + elite trackers don't mix. accts get disabled.
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Originally Posted by
Raban
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Originally Posted by
kukushka
and rehashing some content taken' from other sources.
on a site like HDbits that is a HORRIBLE idea... ya you can do that kinda thing at lower level trackers.. no one will probably even notice..
but imagine the hdbits staff looking at those stats... since the guys client won't report him downloading ANYTHING for that torrent from hdbits and only reports him uploading...
9/10 times that is someone cheating ....
with a top tier site like HDbits don't do anything fancy or special... download 100% of the torrent directly from HDbits and seed back all you can. CONFUSION + elite trackers don't mix. accts get disabled.
Nicely put :yup: .. Rehashing would work if u can download from higher/Elite and seed to lower levels where there are a good number of users .. On sites like these this wuold get you into trouble .. Even their User Level status clearly indicates that they put more emphasis on Downloading and seeding that back ..
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Originally Posted by
Raban
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Originally Posted by
kukushka
and rehashing some content taken' from other sources.
on a site like HDbits that is a HORRIBLE idea... ya you can do that kinda thing at lower level trackers.. no one will probably even notice..
but imagine the hdbits staff looking at those stats... since the guys client won't report him downloading ANYTHING for that torrent from hdbits and only reports him uploading...
9/10 times that is someone cheating ....
with a top their site like HDbits don't do anything fancy or special... download 100% of the torrent directly from HDbits and seed back all you can. CONFUSION + elite trackers don't mix. accts get disabled.
well, correct anti-cheat script is _supposed_ to be some matrix based and shouldn't care whether i downloaded something or not.. if downloaded amount <> uploaded within peers, everyone is under suspiсion for either way ghost leeching or overreporting upload... when situation repeats several times, cheater can be identified.. something like that i think..
and joining swarm with own content - it's a very natural thing to do if release is not exclusive, i.e. scene or just not new for example. that's one of the best and laziest methods to build initial upload on what/waffles (i did it, i know ))). i'm afraid to imagine how many ppl would get banned for rosetta stone )))
so if script detects such things as cheating, it is far from perfection to say at least ) and when staff using it as final method to judge user - well...
..and hdbits is no way any more l33t than what-waffles
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Originally Posted by
bugs.bunny
I am not a member but someone correct me if I'm wrong. Don't they have a rule about overseeding?
nope
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Originally Posted by
kukushka
_supposed_
you speak of how things "should" be or are "supposed" to be ... what does that matter ?
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Raban
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Originally Posted by
kukushka
_supposed_
you speak of how things "should" be or are "supposed" to be ... what does that matter ?
not much ) anyway the best we can do is to try to avoid the shit to happen )
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
I am also banned from hdbits.org and i have no idea why. My ratio was fine. :cry:
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
Drop into #hdbits.support on P2P-Network, you should be able to find out why ;)
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Originally Posted by
TidusBlade
Drop into #hdbits.support on P2P-Network, you should be able to find out why ;)
lolllllllllll they will help us :D:D:D:D:D
dude they will be ban u without telling u why
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
is it possible for members to pm staff to ask about other disabled accounts?.
is that allowed?.
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Originally Posted by
nipple
lolllllllllll they will help us :D:D:D:D:D
dude they will be ban u without telling u why
Well, I had a friend who found out why, and that's about all I know :P
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Originally Posted by
users
is it possible for members to pm staff to ask about other disabled accounts?.
is that allowed?.
Ummm i dont know this is allowed but they have a channel for only support ...
and i dont think one of staff member will reply your pm without warn or ban ...
And if you will contanct one of staff member only can talk with Mostling or Sportcenter others dont worth to talk with them;)
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
did you know that tracker staff spends a lot of time with people who broke tracker rules and claimed to be banned for no reason afterwards? it's time consuming and unnecessary.
a good cheater will never ever admitt that he cheated. he'll do anything to make people believe that he's innocent.
they don't come like: "hey i cheated and you caught me. cool, can i have my account back now?" they all were banned for no reason.
the first rule of successful cheating is never admit you did it. never!
staff are only unpaid (mostly male and young) human beings. some of them have no experience in leading and administrating a large group of people with various nationalities.
of course they do make mistakes. but when you're really an innocent victim and you don't know any of the staff, you have to compete with a whole lot of lying traders and cheaters. that's why it's generally better to say good bye to your account and move along unless you want to get more angry or embarass yourself.
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Originally Posted by
Pitof
I am also banned from hdbits.org and i have no idea why. My ratio was fine. :cry:
Me too !
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
If you don't know the reason you should go to their irc channel support and ask mates.
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
Ok, I just find out that my whole invite tree is disabled, I called 6 people, they all have users which were invited by them, that is more then 30 people, believe it or not.
I can say just this, NWO admin of hdbits must be person full of frustrations, arogance and negative energy. What human being u should be to ban more then 30 users from whole invite tree??!!
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Originally Posted by
makkienator
Ok, I just find out that my whole invite tree is disabled, I called 6 people, they all have users which were invited by them, that is more then 30 people, believe it or not.
I can say just this, NWO admin of hdbits must be person full of frustrations, arogance and negative energy. What human being u should be to ban more then 30 users from whole invite tree??!!
Holy shit! That is just crazy
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Originally Posted by
makkienator
Ok, I just find out that my whole invite tree is disabled, I called 6 people, they all have users which were invited by them, that is more then 30 people, believe it or not.
I can say just this, NWO admin of hdbits must be person full of frustrations, arogance and negative energy. What human being u should be to ban more then 30 users from whole invite tree??!!
Did you sell something on ebay?:huh:
or Time to ban nwo from hdbits like sdbits done ;)
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RedRansom
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Originally Posted by
makkienator
Ok, I just find out that my whole invite tree is disabled, I called 6 people, they all have users which were invited by them, that is more then 30 people, believe it or not.
I can say just this, NWO admin of hdbits must be person full of frustrations, arogance and negative energy. What human being u should be to ban more then 30 users from whole invite tree??!!
Did you sell something on ebay?:huh:
or Time to ban nwo from hdbits like sdbits done ;)
Never!!! Not on hdbits not on any other tracker.
One of the guy who is banned, whom I invited, has seedbox and sportcenter told him he cheated and banned him from channel. Hdbits staff probably dont even know reason and they just tell you something and then kick you from irc.
Terrible, terrible, I dont have words to describe what they are doing.
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
Well its not unheard of for an entire invite tree to be disabled for a single cheater on some trackers. Perhaps that is why they are telling you all the same thing (you cheated), some one in your upline cheated, hence they may have invited risky users.
I'm sure they don't wanna explain the whole situation to everyone in the tree...
Or maybe some one in your upline mouthed off to staff, and they cut that tree down. Who knows, move on, wasted time here.
Its their tracker, your just visiting, you have no rights, period.
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
I'm reasonably new to private trackers and I've just started to get into some of the better ones so please forgive my naivety. I see all these posts in this thread about "cheating" but I don't really understand what it is. I use a shared seedbox as my upload on my home connection is woeful can this cause any trouble? Also my box tends to upload so fast I get huge ratios if I stay seeding too long so I tend to stop seeding shortly after I've finished downloading (if my ratio is above 6 or so and there are enough other seeders) is this cheating?
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Pudenry
I'm reasonably new to private trackers and I've just started to get into some of the better ones so please forgive my naivety. I see all these posts in this thread about "cheating" but I don't really understand what it is. I use a shared seedbox as my upload on my home connection is woeful can this cause any trouble? Also my box tends to upload so fast I get huge ratios if I stay seeding too long so I tend to stop seeding shortly after I've finished downloading (if my ratio is above 6 or so and there are enough other seeders) is this cheating?
No - that is not cheating, it is not classed as cheating, nor is it considered cheating, slight overseeding but not cheating by any standards.
What is meant by cheating is faking your upload stats to trackers by using a programme that alters the real amount uploaded, some try to be clever and work within ratios of 1:1, and some are too stupid that calling them dumb is kind, they fake their stats so high as to be noticed by the system easily or by good coders who have coded anti-cheat scripts that highlight such activities. But in all respects it is still considered to be the one of the biggest sins you can do on trackers and your details if caught cheating will be circulated to other trackers.
If it is a shared seedbox, leave a note with staff or in your profile with the username of the person you are sharing the seedbox with, dual IPs can sometimes be classed as dupe accounts and both accounts disabled without notice.
Better safe than sorry.
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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SgtMajor
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Originally Posted by
Pudenry
I'm reasonably new to private trackers and I've just started to get into some of the better ones so please forgive my naivety. I see all these posts in this thread about "cheating" but I don't really understand what it is. I use a shared seedbox as my upload on my home connection is woeful can this cause any trouble? Also my box tends to upload so fast I get huge ratios if I stay seeding too long so I tend to stop seeding shortly after I've finished downloading (if my ratio is above 6 or so and there are enough other seeders) is this cheating?
No - that is not cheating, it is not classed as cheating, nor is it considered cheating, slight overseeding but not cheating by any standards.
What is meant by cheating is faking your upload stats to trackers by using a programme that alters the real amount uploaded, some try to be clever and work within ratios of 1:1, and some are too stupid that calling them dumb is kind, they fake their stats so high as to be noticed by the system easily or by good coders who have coded anti-cheat scripts that highlight such activities. But in all respects it is still considered to be the one of the biggest sins you can do on trackers and your details if caught cheating will be circulated to other trackers.
If it is a shared seedbox, leave a note with staff or in your profile with the username of the person you are sharing the seedbox with, dual IPs can sometimes be classed as dupe accounts and both accounts disabled without notice.
Better safe than sorry.
yeah, but like you said, do only a little if you have too....
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
the nwo, the sob admin of hdbits has disabled my account because he tought that i was invited from a hacked account.
i was kicked of the room and only after a few times i was told the reason.
knuckle heads.
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
Thanks for clearing that up SgtMajor :happy:
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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users
yeah, but like you said, do only a little if you have too....
Don't do any, ever, or just be labelled a prick like you, choices, choices.
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
You got banned..congrats now just change ur ip and get another invite OR get an invite to another tracker which steals hdbits shit...OMGodzilla..I KNOW
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if someone's interested, another story...
another guy that i know got disabled. went to irc to find out why. he found out :)
at the time when he still wasn't a hdbits member, he offered to upload to bit-hdtv some stuff, snatched at the 3rd party tracker. he was unaware that origins of that stuff were at hdbits :). yesterday this offer was discovered and hdbits disabled the guy :)
after irc negotiations his account was reenabled.
he has a very positive impressions of how his case was dealt with. staff member's name - sportcenter.
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Originally Posted by
kukushka
if someone's interested, another story...
another guy that i know got disabled. went to irc to find out why. he found out :)
at the time when he still wasn't a hdbits member, he offered to upload to bit-hdtv some stuff, snatched at the 3rd party tracker. he was unaware that origins of that stuff were at hdbits :). yesterday this offer was discovered and hdbits disabled the guy :)
after irc negotiations his account was reenabled.
he has a very positive impressions of how his case was dealt with. staff member's name - sportcenter.
since when do hdbits own content and tell you what you can/can't do with it
hypocrits...
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Originally Posted by
users
since when do hdbits own content and tell you what you can/can't do with it
hypocrits...
General rules - Breaking these rules can and will get you banned!
- Don't upload our releases to Bit-HDTV without the uploaders permission
hm. well, it's a free world, you can accept their rules and be on their tracker or you can ignore them and either way do not use the tracker right away or get disabled once in a while
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Originally Posted by
kukushka
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Originally Posted by
users
since when do hdbits own content and tell you what you can/can't do with it
hypocrits...
General rules - Breaking these rules can and will get you banned!
- Don't upload our releases to Bit-HDTV without the uploaders permission
hm. well, it's a free world, you can accept their rules and be on their tracker or you can ignore them and either way do not use the tracker right away or get disabled once in a while
well, does hdbits have permission from copyright owner to encode and upload content to begin with.....plus they steal content from the scene, that rule is really stupid...
but most have not been caught anyway, alot of content on bit-hdtv...luckily.
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
users, there is a reason why some non-scene encodes are uploaded by singular users or groups exclusively on hdbits and it's been this way ever since the tracker existed. This whole issue doesn't really apply anymore today because private non-scene encoding groups have evolved on other trackers too, just think about hdbrise or hdit and I'm sure hd-bits.ro has something along that line too. This issue was the most critical back in the time when scene releases were rare and other releases were either from the first groups on hdbits or from single users. Nowadays you find each movie in God knows how many different sizes and resolutions from various sources and not only on bittorrent either.
You should also remember that being a member of a private community is not like a democracy and ignoring those rules, which you have accepted by using the site, can lead to undesired consequences. One does not need to agree with a rule to follow it. In that I support every staff member on any site because it's the right thing to do. If you desire a change of rules then there's a forum for that discussion; but the thing with bit-hdtv uploads on hdbits will most likely stay that way, there is a history on that, after all.
Back to topic: I've had two positive hdbits support contacts in my 1.5 years on the tracker - maybe I'm lucky that way or maybe that's the rule, who knows? One thing I can say is that while not as friendly and forthcoming as other staff, the hdbits guys must have been professional and diligent to have built this successful tracker and to have kept it running for this long time.
On another note, banning whole invite trees happens every now and then, but I've never heard of it on hdbits (who seem to have a reasonably good anti-cheat system anyway). The same thing happened to my former bitmetv account and I've not been as immature afterwards as this thread-starter. Then again, bitmetv has never been my favorite tracker (or a needed one, for that matter), so I've never been much irritated by that.
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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makkienator
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Originally Posted by
apextwin146
So if they just ban u for doing nothing then wat do you recommend us to do?What should we do to protect our accnts ? You can now help us by telling us what you did so that we can keep our accnts safe ..
Thanks
The point is I didnt do anything wrong, anything against rules, so I dont know what to advice u...hdbits staff banned me without reason, I had good ratio, seed on seedbox, upload subtitles, never complain or argue on their forums...
Just be happy while it last, I guess :whistling
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Just Great Reply "Just be happy while it last" for some other trackers also:yup:
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
Daniel.....so should everyone on hdbits follow this rule as well?.
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/...dm_d84931a.png
"You may not use this site to distribute or download any material when you do not have the legal rights to do so":unsure:
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
I don`t think any tracker kick members out without reasons.
it should be a reason there or go to ircs
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Re: hdbits ban users without reason
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Originally Posted by
azhry
i don`t think any tracker kick members out without reasons.
It should be a reason there or go to ircs
hello!!!